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| Quote ="Iain"I guess I'm the only one who found it fairly amusing (obviously wouldn't have it was all true). I found it reassuring that players are witty and organised enough to co-ordinate it - let's hope they work as a team as well tonight!'"
Nope, I thought it was hilarious!
Still want to give Stef a slap for making my heart stop when I read the thread on here though?!
However, no-one has slagged 'reds boy' off for posting the original message on here about it (not that I think they should) and it was actually him that started all the worry, NOT Ratchford/Turner who were having a laugh 'privately'.
On their part it was a bit naive but nothing worse - certainly NOT unprofessional, disrespectful or disgusting. Some people on here either need to get a sense of hunour or stop believing every rumour they read.
The one positive thing I do hope comes out of this is that Stef realises just how gutted everyone was at the thought of him leaving.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Nope, I thought it was hilarious!
Still want to give Stef a slap for making my heart stop when I read the thread on here though?!
However, no-one has slagged 'reds boy' off for posting the original message on here about it (not that I think they should) and it was actually him that started all the worry, NOT Ratchford/Turner who were having a laugh 'privately'.
On their part it was a bit naive but nothing worse - certainly NOT unprofessional, disrespectful or disgusting. Some people on here either need to get a sense of humour or stop believing every rumour they read.
The one positive thing I do hope comes out of this is that Stef realises just how gutted everyone was at the thought of him leaving.'"
Maybe some people’s sense of humour will return if the team manage to concede fewer than 62 points tonight?
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| I'd hardly call taking a rumour seriously that originated from the players themselves as "believing everything you read".
While I do agree with what's been said that I would far prefer our players to be involved in these sort of antics rather than those that have made the headlines so far this season, and also in hindsight I do find it quite amusing how they managed to (possibly inadvertently...) kick up such a fuss over it, given the interest that has been garnered over a number of our players this season you can't expect people not to get a bit nervous about it.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Why? The are having the crack very much on their own time and within the confines of their personal space.'"
It's not 'personal'. It is on Facebook and fans have viewed the messages. If they are talking about in a pub or having such conversations via email or SMS, then fair enough
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| Where do you think he would rather be?
A) no.6 partner to DB at Wakefield- playing with quality players for the top 6 of the play-offs?
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B) At salford playing anywhere but his prefered position, getting told "f**k off to Wakie then, ya s**t!" from people in the shed?
Not having a dig, but you have to listen to Kear when he said what you need to do as a club, believe him and believe us! we have been there (and deeper & darker) before! I know it's hard but you have to pull together and pull tighter, we all know what's coming up in 2 years and a club like either of ours on self-destruct mode has about as much chance as you have finding a looker in Castleford!
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| Sandal - its a no brainer as Stef is going nowhere but your comments about some of the riff raff are correct and we need to somehow clean our act up.
I think the new stadium will do 2 things :-
a) Stewards will be there to Identify idiots and ensure they never see a home game again
b) Be too far out for many of the oiks to bother as it will be like going to an away game for them.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Sandal - its a no brainer as Stef is going nowhere but your comments about some of the riff raff are correct and we need to somehow clean our act up.
I think the new stadium will do 2 things :-
a) Stewards will be there to Identify idiots and ensure they never see a home game again
b) Be too far out for many of the oiks to bother as it will be like going to an away game for them.'"
Don't be overly surprised early september when this whole issue can go public.
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| Surprised?
On Stef I would be staggered if the Cats can come up with the £400k for buying out the 2 years left on his contract. Have the Cats got a new Arab on the Board? Your club - like all bar Warrington, Rhinos & the Pies have no money to invest that way.
On the Ground. Well any statement is down to Peel. If its September then all well and good.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Surprised?
On Stef I would be staggered if the Cats can come up with the £400k for buying out the 2 years left on his contract. Have the Cats got a new Arab on the Board? Your club - like all bar Warrington, Rhinos & the Pies have no money to invest that way.
On the Ground. Well any statement is down to Peel. If its September then all well and good.'"
mutual termination. if a player asks to leave what can you do?
where has 400k come from anyway! Gaz Ellis only cost 100k and lets face it i think there is a slight difference in quality.
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| I'm beginning to think Sandal Wild Cat is on the wind up to be honest.
Myler's as good as gone so Ratchford will hopefully be moved to his natural position come next season. Everyone's happy all round.
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| 1) Mutual termination means just that chum. Two sides to every contract. I think you will find the watertight contract locked securely in the safe will give the Salford fans a lot of pleasure in the next couple of years and maybe beyond.
2) £400k Yes may well have under estimated his worth there. Worth every penny too if you ask my opinion. In any valuation you have to look at the word `potential`. Forwards who can tackle come ten a penny. Jewels like Stef with good hands, good feet and vision are worth their weight in Gold.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"1) Mutual termination means just that chum. Two sides to every contract. I think you will find the watertight contract locked securely in the safe will give the Salford fans a lot of pleasure in the next couple of years and maybe beyond.
2) £400k Yes may well have under estimated his worth there. Worth every penny too if you ask my opinion. In any valuation you have to look at the word `potential`. Forwards who can tackle come ten a penny. Jewels like Stef with good hands, good feet and vision are worth their weight in Gold.'"
A contract in RL terms is only worth more than the paper it's printed on if BOTH parties are still happy with it. If a player asks to leave what would you do? answer me that please? This scenario has happened so many times at Wakefield, these things happen lads!
IF SR asked to leave there is nothing you can do but agree and use the cap space to find his replacement.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"A contract in RL terms is only worth more than the paper it's printed on if BOTH parties are still happy with it. If a player asks to leave what would you do? answer me that please? This scenario has happened so many times at Wakefield, these things happen lads!
IF SR asked to leave there is nothing you can do but agree and use the cap space to find his replacement.'"
What exactly is your point? He hasn't asked for his contract to be terminated - these hypothetical points mean nothing. You could apply them to any player in any situation.
How often do you exactly see players (in this case one year into a potential 3 year contract) simply being released in the middle of a contract for the club to get absolutely nothing, no compensation, because the player wants to go elsewhere? He's contracted to the end of next season with the option of another year. If we offer him that extra year next season, which I would gather is extremely likely, and he does go then we'll be compensated due to his age.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"What exactly is your point? He hasn't asked for his contract to be terminated - these hypothetical points mean nothing. You could apply them to any player in any situation.
How often do you exactly see players (in this case one year into a potential 3 year contract) simply being released in the middle of a contract for the club to get absolutely nothing, no compensation, because the player wants to go elsewhere? He's contracted to the end of next season with the option of another year. If we offer him that extra year next season, which I would gather is extremely likely, and he does go then we'll be compensated due to his age.'"
It happens all the time mate!
Let's just wait untill mid sept and see if he doesn't want to join Kear's Hero's.
And by Oct/nov don't start fretting if we have started construction on our new ground.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"It happens all the time mate!
Let's just wait untill mid sept and see if he doesn't want to join Kear's Hero's.
And by Oct/nov don't start fretting if we have started construction on our new ground.'"
List them - you'll obviously be able to come up with a lot if it happens all the time.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"List them - you'll obviously be able to come up with a lot if it happens all the time.'"
From my own club,
Brad Davis
Garen Casey
Ben Jeffries
Nat Wood
Ben Westwood
Matt Peterson
Just off the top of my head, when your lower down the pecking order these things happen. Lets face it if he wants to pay in the play-offs he's going to have to move.
(thats the last i'm saying on it. pub time!)
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"From my own club,
Brad Davis
Garen Casey
Ben Jeffries
Nat Wood
Ben Westwood
Matt Peterson
Just off the top of my head, when your lower down the pecking order these things happen. Lets face it if he wants to pay in the play-offs he's going to have to move.
(thats the last i'm saying on it. pub time!)'"
Well already I can see that you've listed players there that you received a transfer fee for - both Westwood and Wood.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"Well already I can see that you've listed players there that you received a transfer fee for - both Westwood and Wood.'"
not a penny for either mate. As i have said there is not point holding a player that wants to leave. Have it on from a very good source that he has already spoken to JK about next year in the red, white and blue.
As i have said before we will just have to wait till sept.
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| Wind up merchant ! Lock it pleasee
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"not a penny for either mate. As i have said there is not point holding a player that wants to leave. Have it on from a very good source that he has already spoken to JK about next year in the red, white and blue.
As i have said before we will just have to wait till sept.'"
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2002/jun/09/rugbyleague.andywilsonI guess this article is a lie[/url
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/wakefield-complain-over-wood-transfer-646432.htmlAlso lies as well I assume[/url
You'll also note the mention of illegal approaches in the second article as well which would apply to this situation. If your "source" is as credible as you are then I suspect they're also as big a WUM as you are and talking absolute [ib[/iollocks.
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| Quote ="Makka Pakka"www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/2569599/Hoaxer-Stefans-left-Red-faced.html
Similar to Ben Harrison and Chris Bridge posting on Matty Blythe's Facebook about a hoax move to Hull
Kids will be kids hey'"
Quick in Saint Helens aren't they
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| It's made The Sun? Jesus christ, Ratchford must be p*ssing himself.
Nice to see so many people so passionate about keeping Stef at the club though. He will have read all of the above messages and it can only be encouraging for him to know how appreciated he is at Salford.
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| Quote ="Sheddy"It's made The Sun? Jesus christ, Ratchford must be p*ssing himself.
Nice to see so many people so passionate about keeping Stef at the club though. He will have read all of the above messages and it can only be encouraging for him to know how appreciated he is at Salford.'"
Its better than whats normally in the Sun,
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