Voting someone from the 20 odd people who actually post on here would hardly be seen as representative of salfords supporters.

Imagine depending on who gets voted who would be our rep. Either someone for who the club can do no wrong or someone who's only mission would be to slag off the board!

You have to have a committee of fans which would means the same old faces who work so hard for FR's. And let's not forget FR are already seen as an elitist clique by certain sections of our support.

Yeah, those pesky elitist cliques who constantly beg for more people to join them.

are these the ones who have paid to get in and thats the lot, no way am I putting anymore money into Salford and then ask why we are not top of the league and expect their £13 a match to provide the team that would be top of the league. They ask why is the club so slow to react to any email, well you need somebody to open the email, the club doesn't have the money, its as simple as that. We have not got rich sugar daddies just us the supporters, it's about time people saw this and put a bit more into the club, but no they will expect somebody else to do it for them.

kinda agree with Bigpev above. Salford fans (or at least, those pre-dominant on this forum!) are constantly sniping at the club without recognising the parameters within which it operates. People complain about comms or lack of ideas etc. - the club revealed the walk to the new ground (for a good cause that promotes the Reds throughout Salford and that needs cash to exist!) and look at the reaction on here! how debilitating must that be for the club itself? people have even posted their emails to the club on this forum - I wouldnt know how to respond to something so antagonistic. If all our fans are going to do is constantly snipe then we're hardly worth enagaging with are we? I know it's not everyone, but on this forum it never seems to end...

as a complete aside. what is the trend as regards traffic to Scarlet Turkey? has it been going down? numbers of posters gone down?

Exactly the support of ours I was thinking of pev.

It does make me wonder sometimes whether the apathetic nature of our fans is any worse than other clubs. And is made to look worse due to our smaller numbers of supporters.

It's true! I'm sure the meetings are always scheduled to be on days that I can't go due to work on purpose. Whilst also alienating the hundreds of other people who want to become part of FR.

Rubbish, FR held meetings on all kinds of days if there was a demand for another day then let it be heard I'm sure they would switch it

The club do approach supporters for their input. I guess more on a 'who we know' basis than an open forum one. I think to placate people who read the Turkey, an online conduit could do a lot. I guess the hesitancy to adopt this would be that as journos are well aware this forum is [ithe[/i online hub for Salford supporters, any dialogue would be watered down, 'no comment' style clobber.



I don't think we have access to the analytics software (if there is any). Numbers you'll find elsewhere (Alexa etc.) will be for probably be for RLFANS as a whole.

Rule of the thumb, there are 10 times as many lurkers to posters in an online forum. So if you said there were 50 regular posters on the Turkey, you're looking at a regular audience of 500. Given that many fans I've spoke to that read the Turkey have rarely if ever posted, the credence of that multiplier wouldn't surprise me - although the numbers may be more or less.



When Swinton have more members in their supporters association than we do, limited to the same communication channels, you've got to ask questions.

WHOOOSSHHHHH!!!

Put a bit more into the club ? Really ? Those who do rarely get appreciated anyway. Admittedly... the chairman appreciates it... but certain people at the top just don't... and see those who help as just being in the way... almost becoming obstructive... so the incentive isn't really there for most.

I can only recall one time the club asked for major help... and that's when we set up Forever Reds. If the club can't handle the workload... then ask for help. They can ask on the website... via Facebook or Twitter... or on here... but they won't. Unfortunately we have people running the club who think that what they are doing is adequate... and it isn't. I'm out of work at the moment and would have happily gone along to open mail and respond to it, and it wouldn't have cost the club a penny.

Ditto.

Has anybody got hold of this years company accounts? Would be interesting to see the incomings and outgoings. It was mentioned on Sky last year that all superleague clubs receive one million pounds a year from Sky and there are some clubs that don't even spend that on the salary cap - are Salford one of these? Also the Salford club has some of the best sponsorship deals in RL (so we're led to believe?) added to that, plus any scraps from season ticket holders and full match day paying supporters along with programme/meat & potatoe pie and beers sales and match day sponsors/ball sponsors and the like. I know its no wonder that we can't compete with the rich clubs, its not something I'm looking at either but when people start whinging about supporters not departing with their hard earned and sponsoring the likes of FR's or donating to charity walks I sometimes wonder is that all necessary?

Could somebody more prudent and scrupulous run a superleague club with around 1.5 million pounds a year income (maybe more?) given that a 3 year licence is guaranteed and not run it into the ground?

Unfortunately it's not that simple....

The last accounts filed at Companies House were for the year ended 30/11/2010

The next due date for filing is 31/08/2012 which will be the accounts for the year to 30/11/2011

So basically the accounts information you can get hold of for a private limited company (The SALFORD FOOTBALL CLUB COMPANY(1914)LIMITED - Company No: 00137072) is effectively two years out of date by the time you get it.

We'd know where they kept the myler money then

Erm. Seems to be picking up in the last hour or so

Same name, new stadium, different club?

One other thing. It's worth looking at how Seattle Sounders F.C. regularly attract 35,000 a week (nearly 70,000 in a recent play-off game) in a sport that is at least forth or fifth down the list in American spectator sports. They are the most watched team in the MLS and they have achieved all this in just a handful of years in existence.

Marketing

Good marketing i agree, but it's probably just as much to do with the inability due to prohibitive cost of say, NFL fans, being able to follow their team away from home during the season. Fans are likely to go watch the next best alternative (bit like Leigh fans going to watch Salford at home whilst Leigh are away etc)

No it's more likely that people ( mostly women ) have realised that American Football is a load of bollox , and are taking their kids to watch something resembling a real sport , one where you don't have to be a freak of nature to actually play it

Plus it is still from their own town/city , unlike your Leigh , Salford analogy , perhaps if Leigh still had a semi pro football club playing at the stadium that was actually built for it , people would have been going to watch them

You lot will be okay anyway , you'll be able to watch Sale next winter

According to Mr Pete Scholes, Simms is the cancer the cancer in club and he needs taking out by the throat. That view is not just from the fans, but from players and coaching staff alike past and present. He's an Aussie who sponges of the club. Are we happy to take that? Because from where i'm standing it seems like we're happy, Mr no bad word against him Wilkinson is always right, forget about about the countless head coaches we've had they're all .

I predict we will not be here in 3 years, we'll be gone. Anyone who thinks different are mugs. In this part of the world no one cares about RL never mind sh*t RL. We only have ourselves to blame.[urlRIP SALFORD RLFC[/url

PS - Our kids Simms and Tarry out banner was spot on.

American Football is still by far and away the most popular sport viewer/attendance/participation wise in the US. Are you suggesting then that these numbers are falling? is there any evidence of that?

Perhaps using Leigh and Salford as examples wasn't the best, even though i'm sure there have been Leigh fans on here who mention they attend our games on occasion. But seeing as you mention same town/city, maybe mentioning Leigh and Wigan would be more appropriate

College football has a bigger spectator base in the States than NFL, from speaking to my ex in-laws over there many people feel less and less affiliation to the NFL teams because the owners are more interested in profits than the fans where as college football is more a community thing.

Yes but in 20 years time football will have overtaken it