Good to see some sensible posts from opposition fans.

Ok where do I start. Silverwood had a poor game, some of his decisions left me absolutely baffled. How did you manage to adjudge the Salford player (at the end of the first half) had obstructed an on rushing Widnes defender when he was facing his own sticks and had his back to them? If you're penalising for that, you could spend half the game giving penalities. How many times was he going to allow Theo Fages to receive a high tackle? The worst for me though was their final try, Phil Joseph appeared tackled and then Kevin Brown didnt look to get the ball down. If they did fair enough, but why didnt he go to the video screen? He did for Theo's try.

Stuart Howarth and Danny Williams both not Super League players in a month of Sunday's. I dont care how hard they try and the effort they put in, their both just not good enough. Williams I accept is in the squad due to injuries, yet Howarth is appearing to become a regular in the 17. Why we loaned Gareth Owen out and kept this lad on I'll never know.

Greg Johnson, Harrison Hansen, Theo Fages and Jason Walton were all outstanding.

Our defence is concerning me. We've got some great individual defenders, yet as a unit we're still a long way from where we need to be. I understand this will come with time.

Attacking wise we were predictable and boring. It was only when Theo began to play off the cuff (which he should always be doing - let Smith do the organising) that we started breaking the Widnes line. To many times the players around Smith didnt know what they were doing and we either dropped the ball, took it flat or Smith ended up getting wrapped by Widnes. Again, I think it's a time issue and the longer we give it the better it will become. Lets not forget Rangi is a crucial part the machine we worked hard on in training.

Widnes were decent, but that's it. I was impressed with their effort but they just do the basics right. I still felt we were the better team last night (even with our injuries) but I hope they push for a top 8 spot.

If Chase was fit for next week, who would you drop Fages or Smith?

The salary cap is a good thing, you will find no arguments with me on that one. However, it has not been reviewed for around eight years and a number of clubs, yourselves included, would be able to work under a higher cap without putting the clubs at risk. Also, it's all well and good developing youth, however a few years down the line some of that youth will the talented superstars of the day. Do you carry on offering them less money than they can get elsewhere and bank on loyalty, watching a slow drip of talent moving to Union where they can earn more cash, or do you look at ways of keeping that talent in the game without putting the clubs in financial risk? Whether the marquee signing is the way to go, or whether there's another way around it, is up for sensible discussion and hopefully the clubs will discuss it sensibly. Dismissing it so bluntly gets us nowhere.

As for the U21s, I think it should have been kept as well, but I do wonder if you've used it as a rod against any other club, or if it's just convenient to use in your blind rage and hatred towards Koukash.



Nowt to do with him being a scapegoat, he just really isn't good enough.



We really, really weren't.

I disagree.

Nothing going forward, defensively poor and loads of mistakes. Widnes looked a threat every time they attacked our line (aided by our poor defence), looked solid and well organised at the back and kept mistakes to a minimum. We also looked absolutely knackered at the end, whilst Widnes' fitness seemed quite good.

Either way, I guess it's not that important, however good we were, we just weren't good enough.

Has Fages got the defensive skills to play 9? I understand what you are saying about Chase/Smith, but Smith must up his game or he might lose his place.

Personally I wouldn't have signed Smith and gone with Sneyd, Chase and Fages.

On the other point I thought it was an even game with Widnes taking here chances more, they had more class 1,6 and 7.

Couple of observations from a Wire fan (with a soft spot for Salford):

1 - defence from dummy half wasn't great - watch a rerun of Hanbury's try... incredibly weak ruck defence. Real schoolboy stuff.

2 - Widnes were clearly better at the tackle area. They have been doing a lot of work with a pro UFC/MMA guy (i forget his name) and they were far better at wrestling the ball carrier onto his back/controlling the speed of the PTB. Salford should take note.

3 - Up until Salford collapsed at around 60/65 mins, it was a great game to watch. Really enjoyed the 1st half.

4 - For once, Stevo was probaby correct when bleating on about a '1 pointer' on the 40 min mark. That would have pushed it to a 8-13 with Salford getting the ball back. Instead, they ended up deep in their half, and gave away a stupid penalty.

Well said Celt - up to 65 minutes I was thoroughly enjoying it, things were starting to look a lot better than the previous two games I'd seen (missed London away).
Getting turned over like that in the last 15 minutes was a real disappointment (and if that last Widnes try was grounded I'll bare my bum in Burton's window) - but I reckon Nobby has positives to build on and we are definitely going forwards not backwards.

Enjoyed the game loved the Dr Who music at the end .



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I know he tipped Salford as GF winners this season, but it's nothing short of an embarrassment how far up the backsides of Salford Phil Clarke is during his commentaries of your games.

Even last night when it was obvious the game was up, he was chirping sh*te about Salford having 'the players and the time to get back into the game'.

Worst pundit on Sky...and that's saying something.

Quote ="GT"The salary cap is a good thing, you will find no arguments with me on that one. However, it has not been reviewed for around eight years and a number of clubs, yourselves included, would be able to work under a higher cap without putting the clubs at risk. Also, it's all well and good developing youth, however a few years down the line some of that youth will the talented superstars of the day. Do you carry on offering them less money than they can get elsewhere and bank on loyalty, watching a slow drip of talent moving to Union where they can earn more cash, or do you look at ways of keeping that talent in the game without putting the clubs in financial risk? Whether the marquee signing is the way to go, or whether there's another way around it, is up for sensible discussion and hopefully the clubs will discuss it sensibly. Dismissing it so bluntly gets us nowhere. As for the U21s, I think it should have been kept as well, but I do wonder if you've used it as a rod against any other club, or if it's just convenient to use in your blind rage and hatred towards Koukash. Nowt to do with him being a scapegoat, he just really isn't good enough. We really, really weren't.'" This m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3859

Quote ="GT"The salary cap is a good thing, you will find no arguments with me on that one. However, it has not been reviewed for around eight years and a number of clubs, yourselves included, would be able to work under a higher cap without putting the clubs at risk. Also, it's all well and good developing youth, however a few years down the line some of that youth will the talented superstars of the day. Do you carry on offering them less money than they can get elsewhere and bank on loyalty, watching a slow drip of talent moving to Union where they can earn more cash, or do you look at ways of keeping that talent in the game without putting the clubs in financial risk? Whether the marquee signing is the way to go, or whether there's another way around it, is up for sensible discussion and hopefully the clubs will discuss it sensibly. Dismissing it so bluntly gets us nowhere. As for the U21s, I think it should have been kept as well, but I do wonder if you've used it as a rod against any other club, or if it's just convenient to use in your blind rage and hatred towards Koukash. Nowt to do with him being a scapegoat, he just really isn't good enough. We really, really weren't.'" This m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3859

As much as some might think the Doc sets himself up for this kind of thing. I can't help but think last night"s prank will well a truly come back to bite the Widnes club on the ar$e!!

As they say 'what goes around. . comes around'

O right playing doctor who music and ing him of is gona make them beat us lol


They have spent a small fortune on that squad and if the game had have carried on another 10 mins it would have been 50.
Widnes played bad in patches and let salford play a bit but once in our stride game over


Its embarrassing having 12 pages about why salford lost we beat a good Huddersfield side last week get over it you lost.The inquest is over

Enjoy your purple patch!! . . Let"s wait and see how good you are on a proper pitch with half a dozen key players out injured.

The amount injured seems to be going up throughout this thread ... Started with 3, then to 5, then 6 and now 6 in key positions - I sense the start of a 4 Yorkshireman sketch!

We won as many games away last year as we did at home, its not just fantastic on plastic, Annnnnnnnnnnnd Cahill, O'carroll, Phelps, Ah Van, Kavanagh and Carberry all missing last night so we had our fair share of injuries as well.

I know getting all the media attention lines us up for some abuse from the opposition supporters, but this is ridiculous. Your comment about how much we've dared to discuss the game is completely over the top, it's not like there's some rule being enforced by Stalin that states, "you must not have more 12 pages to discuss one match."

So a Widnes fan thinks we only played well when they were playing badly, shock horror! He didn't seem to notice we played badly when Howarth was on the pitch, and the second half changed when Sau went off. Sau, incidentally, was making good meters every time he got the ball in that second half.

Nobody will argue hat you were the better team over the 80 minutes, this was down to your better control of the ruck and Salford losing concentration on the last tackle. Your best second rower was Danny Tickle, however, he was totally eclipsed by Walton and Hansen, and only Phil Joseph stood out from your props. Your boys will be black and blue all over today, and it will be interesting to see if they can back it up next week.

If they back it up against Leeds ill be in seventh heaven.
So your boys will be black and blue also,then wait for it next week more excuses on the way from salford again if u get beat about injuries

Your funny dude so what ur saying is you cant beat a full strength widnes side so u want to have a crack at a depleted squad


WoW we have gone up in the world we must be good lol


did u realize we had key players out already in Cayhil Avan Phelps.
And for what its worth id love u to beat warrington,There is no doubting u have great players but i just don't Think you will

I'm sorry where was the excuse, you made a point that we only came into the game when you playing at your best. I merely pointed out that Sau was doing some damage down the left, then when he went off and Howarth went to hooker the game turned back in your favour.

Fair play, you got in front and made Salford chase the game, then we made mistakes that cost us a further score. It was a close game until your last try, and not the blow out you seem to think.

Widnes will suffer some BIG defeats this season, but NOT on that plastic green shiyeet that is in their rented home. CHEATING SCOUSERS

Nice contribution to the thread, well done....(mate



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Get this.....it is possible to play well and lose.....fact is Salford could of played much better, Hansen was the clear stand-out but others were below expectation IMO.

Hopefully for Salford they get it together soon, they will need to do to challenge the big clubs.

Early days mind.

Your avatar saying fits you perfectly.

I seen enough of Salford on Thursday to suggest you will be harder to beat further down the track and with a few bodies back on board. The doctor clearly wants to win every game and getting beat by clubs such as ourselves really gets on his t[ii[/its. Playing the doctor who tune at the end really got his back up even though it was harmless fun, i can already see him plotting his revenge when we meet at magic weekend.





You can't expect to throw a largely new squad together and start kicking a[ir[/ise straight away, its something which he needs to realise and it will take time (2 to 3 years like us) even with some good signings on board. Top 8 would be overall a fantastic achievement in his first full season in charge.