Just 80 minutes without puffing on an inhaler. Is that really so difficult?
I speak as an ex-smoker so possibly being "holier than thou"

Just for info, devices like this are already banned at the etihad and old trafford stadiums, one city fan was ejected from the ground and had his ST card taken from him, he is appealing the decision.

It depends on what you define as difficult? Any more than having to use the lavatory or eating a burger and chips or buying a drink, especially the consumption of alcohol? Speaking as an ex-smoker I would have assumed you would have known that answer and I can't remember the last time I only spent 80 minutes in the stadium? However in response to your quote the point I was making wasn't on the matter about going without.

Jesus christ.

Just keep using it and let them tell you stop or go to the toilet at half time, hardly a massive issue is it.

Thanks for the life story on e-Cigarettes though!

I can see this becoming a bigger issue and many places banning them. It doesn't matter whether something is legal or not, on private property the owner sets the rules. Photography is a completely legal pastime but it is banned by owners in many places - if security sees you taking photos in the Arndale, Printworks or parts of Spinningfields they'll tell you to stop.

Currently Iain there are no rules at the SCS that state you cannot use the device.



Do they have literature available and signs onsite informing you? If so then you don't do it.

I don't need to be treated as though I'm committing an illegal act even when I'm not and especially when I've not been informed/notified otherwise. An apology wouldn't go amiss?

Fair point.



Nope. In fact in Spinningfields there is no indication that you've stepped onto private land.



I'd suggest you keep it on the low down. Make a fuss and they may apologise... or they may look into it and realise other stadia are banning them.

I agree with this and I'm a smoker. Just have one as soon as the game finishes!

Out of curiousity, what do you do when you go to the Cinema?

Correct me if I'm wrong BC, but is your issue (and mine) not so much surrounding the use of an e-cigarette, inasmuch as it's being treated like a child? That is, being ordered not to do something that is in no way offensive or harmful to others, yet you are ordered regardless because this is the culture of being a spectator today? That is, a culture that is excessively rigid in it's enforcement of nonsense rules masquerading under the banner of 'health and safety?' In turn, creating a bland, atmosphere-less pre-fabricated box in which it's 'customers' (gaw I hate being referred to, treated as a customer. So condescending and so typically corporate) begrudgingly oblige and conform to this most un-shedlike norm... Yuck!

There are many examples I can think of to support this claim (standing on yellow lines AT THE BACK OF THE STAND WHERE NOBODY WILL BE IMPEDED, yet there's a rule that must be obeyed so it's enforced without question. Tut!) but the one that stands out most is that regarding smoke-bombs. Granted, I've never seen one at Barton but then again I've stopped going so that's not to say they haven't been used there. Nevertheless, I've seen these completely harmless, non-flammable objects used at a couple of away grounds, met with a reaction by stewards that resembles a Daily Mail reader observing someone with a dark complexion bludgeoning a child to death, whilst on the way to claim the benefits he probably claims... (ftr, I'm not a Daily Mail reader nor do I subscribe to these views). Of course, I'm exaggerating what could just as easily be described as 'an over the top' reaction by stewards. (Ironically this post will be regarded as OTT too).

Meh, I appreciate such behaviour raises questions and makes people who are probably glad of the work (ie stewards) a bit concerned. However, I just feel that partly through a lack of cultural understanding, an insistence that they control the masses by nit-picking anything that gets close to the rules and desire to keep what is likely their only income, stewards are a bit too noticeable in many of the ways I'd rather they weren't.

(Sighs) Oh what I'd do for the relatively self-policing shed. Borrowing a popular football protest slogan, Gav, 'against contemporary corporate rugby league stadia.'

Oh what a pleasure it is to be wittering on about relative trivialities when a few short months back we nearly didn't have a club to complain about. Get in!

I'd say that pretty much sums it up Gav.

Yes of course I can comply, I haven't said otherwise but as we all well know just because of today's culture somebody who is applying rules may not necessarily be right in their actions and it should not go unchallenged. As Iain has stated, just by fact I have merely posted this subject I can see a think tank gathering now at the stadium thumbing through the rule book and working out how to provide a solution on making sure nobody what-so-ever brings one of these disgusting things into the stadium ever again - just because they can!

Harmless? Whilst I agree with the point in general, I've seen the evidence to suggest they're far from harmless, particularly used incorrectly by youngsters on the p*ss, which is how they usually are used in this country. And they normally look rubbish, but that's a major digression...

I do agree that the reaction to an e-cig is majorly over the top. I'm amazed at how much some people are dismissing it on here, as well. It's not so much the fact that he's having an e-cig, it's more the way in which the stewards act towards paying spectators. And don't think they'll only go for people who are genuinely doing something wrong...

Cheers GT!

I have been saying for a long time now the way fans are treated by the jumped up generals (so called stewards) needs addressing asap before more fans stop coming to our stadium. Some of the Castleford fans were complaining about there treatment regarding flags, Do we want any atmosphere in the stadium, I went to the back row of the west stand to stand up as I had pins and needles in my legs and within five minutes I had a steward telling me to sit down (no one behind/in front/left or right of me) the sooner we get back to the way it was run at the willows i.e. bit of banter with the stewards the better.

[iTheir[/i treatment with [itheir [/iflags? At least they were allowed somewhere to put them. We get nish.

That is exactly what I’m getting at; the Dr needs to know what is going on with regards to the way we are being treated by the so called stewards, if he wants supporters to get involved in coming to the stadium then get the stewards to chill out and stop thinking because I wear a uniform I’m going to jump on the first thing I see that I don’t like.

These rules regarding e-cigs and flags are not made by the stewards, like all rules and regulations in the ground they are made by the ground safety officer, the stewards are only there to uphold these, But the way you are spoken to by a steward is another matter.

Well, with all the long winded posts on this subject I am amazed anyone has got the breath to puff on one of these things, lol

Not true nothing to do with the stadium putting up the flags they have rules they need to follow which have been followed. they would probably appear more if I had the time/help/motivation but I dont so that is the way it is. :p

What rules do the stadium need to follow? Are you suggesting there's some law on positioning of banners in a stadium?



Where could Salford flags be put?

That lad was allowed to have his ST card back after a local MP stuck his oar in. And yet ecigs are still banned at the Ethiad. Some clubs have designated ‘vape’ zones whereas other clubs like Burnley have embraced them by selling branded versions at the ground.

As has been pointed out, ecigs have caught a lot of companies on the hop. I’ve seen a couple more people confronted by stewards in the Fans Bar about using them before they retreated and let it slide. I imagine there will be a consensus, one-way or the other, pretty soon.

Different reaily as the current banners were created for the willows so are too big / small for areas which you could put them I did try and put little Red on the tv gantry once but it over hung the box below obstructing the view.

Ideal world design some more, measure the space job is a good one

You could put them in the North stand but its upto you to put them up take them down can't expect the stadium people to do it they have lots to do

We once got told to take banners down at Chester FC because they were prohibited by the safety officer. Kin barmy.

Do they check that everyone's clothes are fire retardant too?

Whilst we're on the subject of stewarding, me and my brother fell victim to perhaps the most jobsworthy piece of stewarding ever on Saturday!!

Around an hour or so before the game me and our kid made our way into the stadium and to The South Stand. We were literally the only people in the ground at the time. We sat down on the chairs at the front of the stand and began having a chat to kill time.

A steward came over and told us we'd have to move as these seats were designated for wheel chair users.

Fair enough if the stadium's full and there's actually people in wheelchairs wanting to sit there but an hour before kick off when there's only 2 people in the whole stadium?

We were then threatened with being ejected from the ground if we didn't move.

I fell victim to exactly the same treatment numerous times in the hospitality suites. Absolute jobs worths that are damaging some people's match day experience over petty issues.