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| Totally agree shirley think its time to see stefan at stand off get him off that wing to his rightful posistion wigan wasted no time dropping their oversees stars in smith and amos roberts they should not be in the team just because they are NRL players as some punters on here have said in the past if they are not doing the business a stint in the reserves is calling
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| Id also give thornley another chance thought he played well against saints
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| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"Looking at Salfors stats, Fitzy is in the top 4 for more than half the stats, look at Jeremy Smiths, he is TOP in errors made & missed tackles'"
It's difficult to compare statistics like that though becase they do different jobs and do a different amount of work. According to official stats Fitz has missed 9 tackles (don't know if that includes the 3 misses in Leuluai's try on Friday as seperate ones) and Smith mas missed 14 - but Fitz has only made 19 tackles to Smith's 108 - so Fitz is currenlty missing about 1 in every 3 tackles, to Smith's 1 in 9 - and they tend to be costlier when a fullback misses. Equally, you'd expect a half bak cto touch teh ball more than a fullback, so, again simply looking at handling errors alone could be misleading.
I'm not sticking up for, or slagging either player here - just saying stats are not definitive. I'd suggest that both players are currently out of form.
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Hull Kingston Rovers and Salford City Reds have announced their 19-man squads for the engage Super League clash at Craven Park on Sunday.
Hull Kingston Rovers squad
Cockayne, Fox, Welham, Webster, Colbon, Cooke, Dobson, Fozzard, Fitzhenry, Lovegrove, Newton, Galea, Murrell, Gene, Fisher, Netherton, I'Anson, Aizue, Wheeldon.
Salford City Reds squad
Fitzpatrick, Myler, White, Jewitt, Turner, Smith, Wilshere, Cashmere, Alker, Stapleton, Sidlow, Parker, Swain, McGilvray, Littler, Leuluai, Paul, Adamson, Ratchford.
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| MY TEAM WOULD BE AS FOLLOWS
Sidlow.
Rested: Paul.
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| I'd like to see something along the lines of:
Wilshere
McGilvary
Littler
Turner
White
Ratchford
Myler
Cashmere
Alker
Stapleton
Parker
Adamson
Swain
Sidlow
Leuluai
Jewitt
Fitzpatrick
Smith and Paul to miss out
Is Mark Henry Injured or just dropped?
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| As Iain says it is difficult to compare, personally I think both have made too many basic errors.
Fitzy keeps letting the ball bounce, he needs to adjust his game to the injury, I think he underestimates just how much pace he has lost.
Said before that Smith is like a small dog always 3 or 4th into the tackle.
Let Stef have a go with Myler, even if we lose by 50 he will be getting experience.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"
Is Mark Henry Injured or just dropped?'"
its says on the reds site he's injured again!
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| Quote ="Ave It!"I'd like to see something along the lines of:
Wilshere
McGilvary
Littler
Turner
White
Ratchford
Myler
Cashmere
Alker
Stapleton
Parker
Adamson
Swain
Sidlow
Leuluai
Jewitt
Fitzpatrick
Smith and Paul to miss out
Is Mark Henry Injured or just dropped?'"
i agree, ratchford deserves a chance in his favoured position, if myler can play that well in superleague ratchford surely can imo, they could be a deadly combination, well more than the MYler-Smith partnership any way
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| First off can anyone advise what is wrong with Henry ?? Cant believe that we have had to play him out of position all year cos of injuries for him to now be injured when we get some wingers on the park !!!!!
As for the team this will, arguably be the strongest we have had this year so no excuses, unless White & wilshire pull up lame in the first 5 mins !
FB - Fitz.
W- McGilvray & White
C - Littler & Wilshire
HB Myler & Smith
FR - Cash Alker Stapleton
SR - Adamson Parker
LF - Swain
Bench Lulu, Sidlow, Ratchford, Paul
As for tactics etc it seems from what I see at matches and on here that we need to give our fr row a bit more time on the pitch and stop making so many subs at one time which disrupts play.
Either way with people on the pitch who can finish I am more hopeful for Sunday. Whilst not criticiseing any players I would say we could have had several more tries had White started the season.
Here`s forever optimistic, hopefully reality won`t spoil it too much this weekend
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| I would go with:
1 Fitzpatrick
2 White
3 Wilshere
4 Littler
5 McGilvary
6 Ratchford
7 Myler
8 Cashmere
9 Turner
10 Stapleton
11 Adamson
12 Swain
13 Alker
14 Paul
15 Parker
16 Leuluai
17 Sidlow
Smith and Jewitt to miss out.
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| I think Henry is still jet lagged according to Simms article in the MEN
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| just to let you know the joker mcrae has dropped stefan back to the 21 s so i will now only be going to home games because i have payed for my season ticket wont travel away whilst this joker is in charge somebody give me a reason why ratchford deserves to be dropped instead of that clown smith
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| Quote ="EVERTON1"just to let you know the joker mcrae has dropped stefan back to the 21 s so i will now only be going to home games because i have payed for my season ticket wont travel away whilst this joker is in charge somebody give me a reason why ratchford deserves to be dropped instead of that clown smith'"
if that is true it is a f.....g disgrace
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| I was really looking forward to seeing smith and cashnere play at the start of the season but now i think ratchford deserves to be on the 1st team more than smith i am deeply dissapointed in the new players from aus, lets hope that Paul White and Dean McGilvray can inject something into the team as we have really missed a decent winger.
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| Take heart for sunday boys and girls I'm sure you'll perform enough to beat the dobbin !!! A guy walks into a local charity shop the other day to buy a video that's in the window entitled Hull Kingston Rovers [ The glory years priced at £100. He asks the lady in the shop why it's so expensive and she tells him the video is only a fiver but the betamax machine to play it on is 95 quid lol. The old ones are the best !!!
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| Quote ="fcexpat"Take heart for sunday boys and girls I'm sure you'll perform enough to beat the dobbin !!! A guy walks into a local charity shop the other day to buy a video that's in the window entitled Hull Kingston Rovers [ The glory years priced at £100. He asks the lady in the shop why it's so expensive and she tells him the video is only a fiver but the betamax machine to play it on is 95 quid lol. The old ones are the best !!!'"
about as funny as our season so far !!!
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| Quote ="david caesar"about as funny as our season so far !!!
'" I thought you'd like that !
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| Quote ="fcexpat"I thought you'd like that !'"
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| Heres one
[size=59What does a scouse woman do to her c&nt before sex?
Drop him off at Anfield!![/size
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| Quote ="EVERTON1"just to let you know the joker mcrae has dropped stefan back to the 21 s so i will now only be going to home games because i have payed for my season ticket wont travel away whilst this joker is in charge somebody give me a reason why ratchford deserves to be dropped instead of that clown smith'"
If true then what a fookin joke!!!!
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| maybe he is playing in 21s for other reasons?
Maybe this is something to do with Leon?
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| Very true playing against hull kr 21s tommorrow noble gets called rotten by fans on wigan forum but a least he has the balls to drop Aussies into reserve team football mcrae has lost all my respect needs to get some balls and drop smith cashmere and henry and try the youngsters fed up of hearing they need time to settle
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| how long before the youngsters leave because of the poor coaching and team selection being made by this TV Pundit.
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| Good pundits come from bad coaches
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