Well one of us had to start the topic. Absolutely embarrassing second half, up until half time I actually thought we had a chance of winning it.

Positives - Sneyds kicking game and Theo's overall progression.

Ryan Mcgoldrick isn't a hooker in a million years, I won't blame the man because it isn't and never has been his position. I assume it was an unsuccessful experiment by Noble.

Positive WasGaskell he was best player on park for 50 mins then the team fell to pieces

Hi Guys from a Saints perspective I enjoyed the night I went to the aerodrome club first and then main stand far better than last season behind the goal. You guys gave it a good go I really thought Gaskell was pretty awful he wont defend that's for sure. All in all I thought the score line flattered Saints

It comes down to two things every single week.
1. Mentality, we just dont have the mental toughness
When we fall be behind by more than 2 trys, we just fall apart and the game plan goes out of the window.

2. PENALTIES! every single game we give penalties away but not just in random areas of the pitch its always in our own half or on the halfway line, the opposition then simply kick it to our 20/10 metre line and crash over in the corners where's our defence seems non existent.

Koukash and nobles hands are completely tied until we get better quality players on the park.

Next season can't come quick enough.

Koukash sacked Vievers for less than Nobles results.

Have Swinton not had a game tonight? Their one and only fan seems to be on here tonight.

Wasn't the best in the second half but what a great deal of people need to remember is that we have a fair amo8unt of sub standard players playing in the upper echelons of rugby league. If at this stage of the season next year we are in the same position I'll be seriously worried.

As for this year remember Salford fans it could be much much worse, we could be Swinton fans who are shortly to find out hat they have no team left to support.

Haha Mich my ole mucka your such a wit.
160 plus points in three games says it all.

Thought Whitehead was signing today mate?

So not withstanding the fact that this season is in all fairness a transitional one,what happens if 2014 turns out as bad and what do you see as improvement.??
Before the "Swinton are e" brigade start which I have never confirmed one way or another but watch home and away, this is a genuine question because quite frankly to compete you need a new team.

Transitional b******s. Our results and performances under Noble so far are definitely no better than under Vievers and they were bad enough. The minimum we could have expected was to become more competitive. Instead we are getting blown away.

How are we going to attract better players to this set up? The Good Doctor is blowing a lot of hot air, I don't know exactly what Noble is doing, but progress is minimal if any.

Just over 3,000 there again tonight. There must be twice that number staying away, and after another mauling be thinking, 'Thank God I've not just wasted another £30.'

Concerning how we can't seem to stop the rot when teams get a bit of momentum behind them. 4 tries in 9 mins last night, similar at Warrington and not much better in the 1st half vs Wakefield. Need to find a way to stay in the game when under pressure. At the moment we just cave in.

We seemed to lose it when McGoldrick came on. It would of been better to play Evalds instead of Mc Goldrick

When Koukash said 'It wont happen again' did he mean getting hammered away at Warrington wont happen again or in general ? if it was the latter he's looking a bit daft now after getting thumped again !!.

Keep your heads up guys, my club has been through the weekly hammerings and it isn't nice but ride it out then enjoy the better times !

Initially after London game he said this wont happen again but then after Warrington game he said this wont happen next year!

Yeah that was the killer, that 10 minute period between the 50th and 60th minute. Two or three of the tries in the game had an element of luck like the kick on the wing that ricocheted up in the air off two of our players and landed straight into the hands of their player, but it's annoying how we lose concentration and manage to concede about four tries pretty much without getting the ball back.

After Broughton scored to bring it back to 14-10, I don't even remember us having the ball in their half until there was about 5 minutes left in the game.

A bit worrying for the critics of last years scapegoat Stu Howarth and this years scapegoats Foran and Mauro,that we can perform so badly when they weren't playing.
The whole club needs a full,slow,careful observation and the correct people and procedures put in place on and off the field.
I was hugely embarrassed and annoyed not to have been made aware of young players holding a bucket collection before the game,outside the stadium,and so didn't take any money to be able to assist.
I would like to see some improvements in a second half display whether in a position to recover in the game or if the game is totally beyond retrieval,but I ain't seen it yet.
I could be wrong,but I seem to recall the home victory over Hull KR was the last time we won a second half.

I agree pal. The 1st half I thought we were pretty good and our kicking game was excellent ( kicking the ball and having it stop on their try line/in goal area gave us good advantage , although our chase up the field after a kick was pretty average and needs improving). I don't understand what happens at the 50 minute mark of the game though. Its almost like a total switch off. Its a kind of " I cant be d with this any more " attitude , which has gone on all season. The no pre season comments cannot be used now as we are coming towards the end of June , so fitness levels should be good. I also don't think its a mentality toughness thing , just purely an attitude of people not caring to try their best for the club.

After the Wakefield game , that was the time to start the clear out of who will not be here next season and they shouldn't be involved with the club anymore. I'm sure Alan Hunte will have an abundance of young players who will play with much more pride than most of the team at present. Now is the time to try them out and give them the experience needed. All the super stars in super-league had to make a debut at some point ( although in better circumstances) but they cant do any worse than the crap on display at present.

also throughout the game , we are constantly substituting key areas such as hooker and loose forward. Surely this is no good for game plans/strategies ? Why not give young Owen a few full 80 minute games and see how he goes. Give Gaskel a run out in his stand off position and bring in Evalds at full back ( its not rocket science). Could Sneyd play at loose forward ?? I'm sorry but Wilde is no more than a 2nd rower to me.

I thought we did well in the first half tonight, but again the wheels fell off.Gaskels kicking was the highlight.
Can someone explain to me the definitive rules about interchanges?. Does the player have to have left the field of play before his substitute can set foot on the field? If so , Saints were guilty of having 15 players on the pitch !!
In the 32nd minute of the first half, two Saints subs ran on as two Saints players were ambling off to the sidelines.
I think this rule needs clearing up to save any disputes in the future.....

The kicking from hand was as good as I've seen from a Salford team at the new stadium, the kick chase last night didn't do the kicking justice.

There is deinately an issue with our tackling technique as time and again last night we allowed the Saints player to fall forward and get a much quicker play the ball than we managed.

Sorry but for Noble to commit to print saying how good a player Evalds is and then not even have him on the bench only to play a stand off/centre play full back baffled me. There is nothing now to play for except pride and blooding a player like Evalds who didn't let himself or the team down when he got his chance early on in the season would be ideal, also McGoldrick needs to learn how to carry bottles as for me that should be the sum total of his contribution until the end of the season, get Owen involved and release McGoldrick at the end of the year.

Must have been a hell of a half time team talk from Nobby this week - really turned things around
6 - 14 in the first half, 4 - 38 in the second..... mmmm?

I cannot wait for this season to finish, no matter how loyal I am as a supporter I am not sure I can take much more.

Know how you feel. Only a few more games to suffer. With holidays, I can only make HKR(a), Catalans(h), Cas(a) and Widnes(h). I might even skip the Catalans game as work finishes that day and the celebrations might make the journey 'unsafe'.

Roll on 2014.

Perhaps he ran out of water bottles.!!

Good 50 mins, but we faded pretty quickly after those first 2 saints tries in the second half. Almost like we had conceded the game at that point, so what happened next our players didn't care about. I was pretty happy until 50 mins. Very disheartened with what came after...

Without exaggerating I thought the first 40 minutes were the best of the season so far. I was really impressed with our defence and kicking game, we even looked expansive with the ball in hand at times too.

The second half was like a different team and we threw away all that excellent hard work with an embarrassing second 40. I don't know whether it was lack of fitness or not but I can't understand how you manage to come out so differently.

I seen enough to suggest that Nobby will get it right though.