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| Matt Parish,seems to be down beat already,he did not take any positives at tall from to day.It seems there is little or
no money for him for next season.Yes two will go back,and two come in,but that,s not team building,so was he sold a
pup,at is interview,there was a call to Radio Manchester,Jack Dearden tried to defuse the comment,but it was said.
If Moon as singed tell us,also long.even outsiders are now saying we are like amateurs,can you blame them.Steve Simms
said they were hoping to get more revenue,with more fans coming with away teams,but If we carry on the way we are
there will be only them there,you cannot run a club like that surely.
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| most of the above post is hard to read but......
Parish is refreshing, he took no positives from the performance and intends to make them pay.
I say good on him, for too many years we have had the likes of Mcrae telling us there are good things.
Parish would know exactly what he was getting in to, he has enough mates here to make enquiries about the club, or read the internet.
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| Bl**dy H*ll LanceTodd - have you ever seen a positive in anything?
I listened to MP's interview on the way back from the game (and yes we were outclassed against that Wigan side, but so have many others been) - his comments were spot on - goal line defence poor, need to work harder with the squad we have and get those players to believe in themselves and start to deliver.
He'll do for me
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| I thought it wouldn't be long until a thread like this turned up. This season is over and the remaining games are there for our Coach to assess, change, praise, bollock, etc in expectation of next year. It's good that the coach gets a dose of Salford reality so that it can be changed sooner rather than later. The back-end of this season will help hugely for preparation, recruitment, retention to name but a few. He's got a big job, but that's what a coach is there to do. Change things, make things better. I'm sure if a coach of any calibre quit after a few months he could forget about walking into another head coach job.
Making suggestions of disenchantment and doom-mongering helps the Club out in what way exactly?
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| Quote ="lancetodd"Matt Parish,seems to be down beat already,he did not take any positives at tall from to day.It seems there is little or
no money for him for next season.Yes two will go back,and two come in,but that,s not team building,so was he sold a
pup,at is interview,there was a call to Radio Manchester,Jack Dearden tried to defuse the comment,but it was said.
If Moon as singed tell us,also long.even outsiders are now saying we are like amateurs,can you blame them.Steve Simms
said they were hoping to get more revenue,with more fans coming with away teams,but If we carry on the way we are
there will be only them there,you cannot run a club like that surely.'"
Lance ask Matt Parish that question tomorrow night at the meeting.
At the first meeting with the fans,he certainly gave the impression that he knows exactly what he has taken on and ask him if he feels that he has been sold a pup.
The bloke should at least be given a chance without being subject to the usual prophets of doom jumping in.
Having been to the match, with a great bunch of Salford Supporters, I missed the Radio Manchester phone in but I know one thing for sure, Jack Dearden couldn't defuse a balloon let alone a call from a listener.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I thought it wouldn't be long until a thread like this turned up. This season is over and the remaining games are there for our Coach to assess, change, praise, bollock, etc in expectation of next year. It's good that the coach gets a dose of Salford reality so that it can be changed sooner rather than later. The back-end of this season will help hugely for preparation, recruitment, retention to name but a few. He's got a big job, but that's what a coach is there to do. Change things, make things better. I'm sure if a coach of any calibre quit after a few months he could forget about walking into another head coach job.
Making suggestions of disenchantment and doom-mongering helps the Club out in what way exactly?'"
My thoughts exactly,quality post
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I thought it wouldn't be long until a thread like this turned up. This season is over and the remaining games are there for our Coach to assess, change, praise, bollock, etc in expectation of next year. It's good that the coach gets a dose of Salford reality so that it can be changed sooner rather than later. The back-end of this season will help hugely for preparation, recruitment, retention to name but a few. He's got a big job, but that's what a coach is there to do. Change things, make things better. I'm sure if a coach of any calibre quit after a few months he could forget about walking into another head coach job.
Making suggestions of disenchantment and doom-mongering helps the Club out in what way exactly?'"
I am not having a go at Matt Parrish,far from it.But I do think he should be given all the assistance he needs
don,t you.people are asking about recruitment,for next season.A we not aloud to ask,the coach was asked the
question him self,he said its money,no I am certainly not having a go at the coach,no he as got my backing
for a longs as he stays,what ever the results.Because you no as well as me,we have had more coaches than
National Express.
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| I believe MP will be here until the Reds have made significant improvements. Like others I witnessed today a lack of intensity in tackling, poor goal line defence.
We must appreciate that Wigan are a great team and we are lacking in many areas. I am hoping that a close season MP, PV and SL working on the basics and building a team from 1-17 who are proud to wear the shirt will bring results next year.
Long live the Reds
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| I think he will see out his contract lance so maybe you need another hobby horse.
The underlying problem is a shortage of capital in the club and in the game as a whole.
We have 3 Directors who have done what they can to produce a SL side with their own funding, Sky Money and Income from Gates, Sponsorship etc.
It doesnt need a Rocket Scientist to tell us that the Tailor cutting our suits doesnt have half as much cloth such as Wigan, Warrington, Leeds & Hull. That will ALWAYS be the problem and can only be solved by :-
a) New Directors willing to let Mr Parish use an open cheque book to recruit the people wanted
b) Huge income revenues from our new Stadium
The latter is our best hope as I dont see many businessmen wanting to invest in Super League in this recession. Those of us in business know just how hard it is currently and as for the Banks helping small businesses like SCR - well God help us! Typically they are lending Umbrellas whilst the sun shines but as soon as rain falls they want it back.
So its a question of living within our means at Barton. Its a time for MP to have a good look at his squad - clear out the dead wood and those never going to make it and bring in youngsters who he will be able to mould and also scour the Championship for young players who wont be asking for the earth for contracts. Personally I feel there is talent around which is untapped in the Championship and also in other places such as RU in South Africa.
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| From what I have heard of Parish he seems a real top quality bloke who gives it to people honestly.
I agree with what Early bath wrote although at the last 4ever Reds meeting where Parish impressed with his honesty, it was Mr Simms who for me showed the ambition or lack of it my those high up in the day to day running of the club, by stating that they hope to get more revenue by getting more away fans! It beggars belief that an official says something like this when they should be trying to attract customers to 13 games a season and not 1.
Early bath wrote that we should be looking in the championship, I agree with him entirely we only have to look at some of the quality players who have come from the lower league, Jon Wilkin, Peter Fox , Sam Obst, Martin Gleeson, Danny Brough, to name a few.
I do disagree though that the directors couldn't do a lot more -for instance they should be asking questions as to why we are in this position financially? why is the sales/marketing non existent? What is the Chief Executive doing to earn his salary? (thats Mr Tarry who doesnt even know what rugby is) and why we are paying money which could be spent on players for a football director who has presided over two relegation and numerous awful buys not to mention 3 coaches. (He is the Teflon Don).
As to Parish sounding disgruntled or disappointed, yes I bet he is after a poor performance. When he came here I bet he didn't realise the depth of his problems and lets be fair his last coaching involvement was with NSW, it must be one hell of a shock to go from Hayne etc to the likes of our lot!!!
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| I'm hoping that Matt tells them a few uncomfortable truths about today, wigan are a very good side but another 50+ scoreline isn't good enough I don't blame Matt I just hope he uses this community spirit he is trying to build to its advantage.
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| Predictable , both on the topic and the poster who started it ..
Parish has been here now I guess a month ?
why hasn't he clicked his heels and made everything better yet ?
how many times have we won at the DW Stadium ? it took me 30 odd years to see our team beat Leeds at Headingley. but I'm not going to 'kick off ' because he hasn't acheived a win at the DW in 30 days. Wigans total benefitted from R Hicks Penalty count in the first half and the ubiquitous yellow card in the 2nd. yes our poor try line defence is a problem but there were positives to take from the game, notably Danny Williams.
yet we had BBC Radio talking about the 'Salford Problem ' and the usual callers bemoaning our fate.
Guess what , it's probably going to get worse, but to be honest what other choice do we have but to get behind this coach and the players who want to get it right?
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| Everybody connected with the club needs to back Matt Parish 100%. He seems like a breath of fresh air, impatient to turn Salford into a team that can compete with the top teams, and beat them.
That's what I want too.
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| There should be no surprise from MP in terms of the playing staff, their contracts, and the money he has to spend on new players. All of this should have been discussed at the interview.
Even if the chairman painted a somewhat "rosey" picture of life at SRLFC, surely MP will have done his research - wouldnt you before travelling round the world for a new job?
That's why I was confused by his interview - I'm all for discipline and straight talking, but he must know that his job is to make the best out of what he's got, mustn't he?????
I went to the game, and saw we were beaten by better players, who play in a very professional way. I cant say there was a lack of commitment or effort from Salford, and Wigan's skill in getting penalties in key areas of the field ended the contest by half time.
Not saying Wigan didnt deserve their panalties, it's up to the Salford to manage the ref in the same way Wigan did, that's something that can be coached.
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| I cannot believe we are having this debate, we have a new coach & we all agree he has given us a lift. I am sure he knew all about us before he came to us, for god sake one of the reason the board employed him was the research he had done on Salford before his interview & what had impressed the board was his vision on young players
I for one have seen some positive changes, he is faced already with loosing Rachford, Cashmere & Henry & I am sure he is working on his squad for next season when we will have plenty of time to judge. I am happy with his comments after game as he clearly a guy who lives & breaths the club already, I was glad he was disappointed with our performance level it shows he cares.
Lets please get away from this debate & get behind our coach, he has faced HKR away, Leeds at home & Wigan away, not the easiest in my book or am I missing something!
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| Hi all i'm fairly new to this forum (this is in fact my 1st post) but from browsing through the threads a lot of what i seem to see is a wave of negativity and impending doom coming from certain individuals such as the originator of this thread 'lance todd' and others. How can you possibly judge MP on 1 game sat in the stand and 3 games in charge,all of which as afore mentioned were tough games to say the least! Why don't 'we' just let MP get on with his job while 'we' get on with ours.....supporting srlfc come what may? Anyone that thought drastic changes were going to come about within a month were blatantly having themselves on so lets put a little trust in the people in the positions that matter eh?
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| Hi all i'm fairly new to this forum (this is in fact my 1st post) but from browsing through the threads a lot of what i seem to see is a wave of negativity and impending doom coming from certain individuals such as the originator of this thread 'lance todd' and others. How can you possibly judge MP on 1 game sat in the stand and 3 games in charge,all of which as afore mentioned were tough games to say the least! Why don't 'we' just let MP get on with his job while 'we' get on with ours.....supporting srlfc come what may? Anyone that thought drastic changes were going to come about within a month were blatantly having themselves on so lets put a little trust in the people in the positions that matter eh?
Welcome on board Paint it Red, nice to read a positive & objective comment!
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| Cheers redgunner and apologies for the rant! It just rubs me up the wrong way,sometimes i wonder if these people are even fans of the club at all or whether they just come on here in an attempt to spread misery!
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| i thought he got his post match comment pretty much spot on
disappointed with effort especially with goal line defence. U20's took a heavy beating so cant really ring the changes
IMO I thought you would have fared better this season, but know there were problems with SM etc
Backed up with players not performing (or not playing) its certainly not helped
I was never Feka's biggest fan, but he looks like he's lost weight, but didnt have the appetite for it yesterday. Phil Bailey never played, the hooker you signed (never played or got a permit)
all in all what looked to be a promising batch of signings pre season have let you down IMO
If you look at Wire and the changes they've benefited from since the move to their stadium, granted it took time and they also have someone to stick the money in
Parish will turn it around, but you've got to give him time to work with the young ones and bring them through. You have some good pros to work with them also (cashmere is one i've always been impressed with)
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| Thanks Pieman, you make some good observations, I think MP got it spot on, I don't want to see or hear the comments we used to get from SM we were in it for 60 minutes, we need to train harder & we will turn it around.
Yes you are correct some of the signings have been huge disappointments, Feka springs to mind, a lot of Salford fans thought he was not a good signing for us, he was a good player in a good team, many Salford fans quite rightly predicted he was not the player we needed at Salford.
I believe we need to hold on to the wire model & hope we can turn this around, with the right marketing over time we have a great chance.
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| Welcome paint it red, welcome to the board I agree with everything you said MP is the man to take us forward.
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| Quote ="redgunner"Thanks Pieman, you make some good observations, I think MP got it spot on, I don't want to see or hear the comments we used to get from SM we were in it for 60 minutes, we need to train harder & we will turn it around.
Yes you are correct some of the signings have been huge disappointments, Feka springs to mind, a lot of Salford fans thought he was not a good signing for us, he was a good player in a good team, many Salford fans quite rightly predicted he was not the player we needed at Salford.
I believe we need to hold on to the wire model & hope we can turn this around, with the right marketing over time we have a great chance.'"
Stinking of someone on the inside or a relative of MP's new to the country. "We" in brackets twice in original post. Referring to 3rd person fans, and 1st person club etc. While I agree with the sentiment of letting MP get on with his job I find it very very difficult to find this post authentic... then again I could be wrong. Look at SM......
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| Quote ="Lyrad Red"Stinking of someone on the inside or a relative of MP's new to the country. "We" in brackets twice in original post. Referring to 3rd person fans, and 1st person club etc. While I agree with the sentiment of letting MP get on with his job I find it very very difficult to find this post authentic... then again I could be wrong. Look at SM......'"
You should be a detective with skill like that
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| I know that lancetodd has a reputation for negative postings and people on this thread seem to be reading his post as a pop at Parish, but I'm reading it more like "will Parish stick around or will he get frustrated and leave" - not questioning his ability, more what he has to work with.
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| MP would want a chance to build his own team not one mcrae built in a half d way.
I'm sure MP after a full preseason with his own signings on board we will see a different salford, you can tell he loves the challenge.
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