Do we deserve to be in SL? What a joke of a performance, players like the fans can't be d and have not turned up. All the good publicity greated by our new owner is being undone, hate to know what the sky panel are saying. Maybe I should go home, might catch the second half...

Extremely disappointed I expected some kind of response after last week. I can't imagine the repercussions if this continues. Let's hope we can salvage some pride in the second half at the very least.

I know some people on here are going to take this the wrong way but i really think salford need to get serious and ship out a lot of dead wood and try to sign some realistic signings.

Plenty of dead wood to be shifted!

You've been awful in every department. Shame as I thought you were okay against Widnes the other week. Lots of players to be shipped out I think.

its about time Noble brings Gaskell in the half back, Theo needs help!

nigel plum
Junior sau
clark from cas

Depending on the situations and how the players feel,
Adam sidlow
Stef ratchford
Adrian morley

I think they are a realistic signings which would get you clear from the bottom and pushing for the top as long as noble gets them motivated.

"it wont happen again" ......oh yes it will !!

No disrespect to Salford, but they where never going to be competing with the top clubs like Wire this season.

Yes you were well beat tonight. But I can't really see what's to moan about.

You are exactly where you should be given your squad.

Indeed....BUT they can try again next season in the same league.

The worry is that they beat up our pack.
Griffin,Walne,Emmitt ,Ashurst and Dixon are all likely to be around next year and were smashed.
I'm not Sneyds biggest fan but we missed his kicking game.
I know it's tough behind a beaten pack but the kicking was very poor.
I think McGoldrick is a liability and the 2 Aussie signings have been disappointing.
You have to feel sorry for Dr Koukash

Sorry but the att of 2,347 is embarassing

As much as I hate to agree with a Wire fan, this is true.

I'm a big fan of Noble and have never seen him so somber as he was giving his post match comment on Sky tonight.

As a neutral, it's hard for me to see that comments made by Koukash are helping him motivate the team and I wonder what Reds fans think?

Unless injured I could not beleive Syned ( sp ) was dropped, he always plays well against us , Wakefield, thought Gibson was good in defence.

This season is a waiting game, it must be difficult to motivate players who know they will have no place next season - we were beaten tonight by a Wakefield side that played at the top of their game, every kick for touch shaved the corner flag ( how often will they do that this season).
Though I am disappointed, just like the games against Widnes this season, on another day we could beat Wakefield. I still thought we showed effort, Fages was good, as was Walne. But Wakefield had sussed the move with Gaskell running onto the ball, and hit him hard every time.
Be realistic folks, we have won 4 and drawn 1, are 3 points behind Widnes with a team put together a couple of weeks before the season started.

I think perhaps it's just a reality check that's needed.

The new owner, and now Noble have inherited a very average team, and mid way through the season there's little Noble can do about it. Add to that the fact that I guess quite a few of those players already know they won't be playing for Salford next year as new, better players, whoever they may be will be brought in. So, even though they should still give their all, I can understand why they may not.

As Salford fans, you should look at the example of what's happened at a few other clubs. I'm a Warrington fan, and for 20+ years, watched crap, week in week out. When we moved to our new stadium, and Moran came in with some cash, we didn't start winning trophies over night - it was 4 or 5 years before we were.

Then look at Huddersfield - they gave a great example of what I think Mr Koukash should do - their chairman dropped the prices of all the season tickets dramatically for 2 or 3 seasons - making all season tickets £100 for adults, and about £20 for kids - to get the numbers up from around 4 or 5K max, to 9 or 10K (which they do get now, although the stadium still looks empty). He got people in, and built the team slowly at the same time - now look at them.

You could even look at Widnes - they had a bit of money behind them (OK, maybe not as much as you), but still, they kept quiet, and have built year on year.

So, yes, it's bad now - but would you rather be where you are now, with a Millionaire owner, who just wants success, or where you were 8 months ago, facing a winding up order????

Even though I'm a Warrington fan, and Salford and Warrington may of not been the closest of allies in the past, I think it it vital for Super League that teams like Salford, Huddersfield, Widnes, succeed, because our league WON'T survive with 4 or 5 top teams putting 80+ past teams like London etc week in week out!!! And, love him or hate him, Koukash is vital to our game, because with out him, Moran, O'Connor, Lenigan, etc, we won't have a game. He may just have to look a little more long term I think.

Possibly one of the best posts I've read on this forum for a long time!

Great post.

I don't buy players not giving it their all regardless of them not being offered new contracts. Let's be honest these players are in the shop window and if we don't offer them a deal who else will in Superleague? This was a great opportunity on Sky tonight for these out of contract players to shine and show they were worth taking a gamble on. After tonight some would be lucky to get a gigg in the Championship.

how about this one. You're 'RICH BUT RUBBISH'....BOOM BOOM (Basil Brush style)

Huddersfield's home attendances are currently 22.59% down on last season and they are only averaging 6,268 per game compared to averaging 8,097 last season for the same home fixtures. It's a scary thought, but how poor would their attendances be if if the team were struggling near the bottom of SL?

So much for flogging cheap season tickets in previous years.

Cheers.

Having watched Warrington home and away for 30 years now, I have been where Salford fans are, pulling my hair out, wondering why we get smashed every week, and thinking why do Wigan, Saints, Widnes (back then), Leeds and Bradford have to win everything.

It happens to lots of clubs - and Salford are at the start of their journey - it can only get better - maybe not next week, or next month, or possibly next year, but it will. You can even look at Saints - who would of thought 5 years ago, they would be going through what they are now, not winning a thing. But they have a new stadium and have to evolve to. Bradford - best Super League team by miles 9 or 10 years ago - they are starting over again now.

Hopefully, in 2 or 3 years, there will be 9 or 10 teams competing week in week out, then there won't be so many meaningless matches, where teams rest 6 or 7 players, not that worried if they lose, because they know the same 4 or 5 will get the top places, and the serious games start in September.

This is true - but pretty much every team in Super League is down - I know we are, by 1 or 2K as an average. That is more a sign of the times than anything.

But, my point was, Salford can't hope to become a top team with 2K home attendances most weeks. You need to get that up to 7 or 8K, and you need to think about ways of doing that. And, we weren't a top team when we moved to the new stadium, we were still finishing an average of 8th, but we really sold the concept of the new stadium, a new era, and despite not winning anything for 5 years, we went from 6K average to 11K.

I just don't think massively discounted season tickets are the way forward. Fans get used to paying a cheap price and abandon ship very quickly when suddenly faced with a huge increase in season ticket prices. It doesn't work long term at increasing the paying supporter base.

Huddersfield sold some adult season tickets last season for £50 and others at around £100 but I doubt many of those new punters who took up those offers last season were willing to pay £200 this season. Same at Bradford... they sold £60 season tickets and their average is now down from around 14K a couple of seasons ago to 9k this season. It remains to be seen what happens at Wakefield when they start charging higher prices for season tickets again. They are another club who have increased home attendances by 2k to 3k per game on the back of selling £125 adult season tickets, £50 for 16 to 21 year old's and £25 for juniors. They'll be back down to averaging around 5k IMO once the massively discounted season ticket offers are removed.