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| I have just read on the sports section of internet in manchester evening news that hull kr are making a bid for daniel holdsworth is this going to be another player that we cant keep hold of or will the club bite the bullet and try and give him a deal most of us thinks he deserves.
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| To be honest, I could not blame him.
We cheered him but I'm still awaiting his name ina chant. An Aussie will never have this back there. Why not try?
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"To be honest, I could not blame him.
We cheered him but I'm still awaiting his name ina chant. An Aussie will never have this back there. Why not try?'"
Sung on Saturday:
"Dan Holdsworth,
Whoah-oah.
Dan Holdsworth,
Whoah-oah.
He's from Aust-ra-lia
He's better than My-ler"
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And it did get fairly well picked up.
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| Quote ="neil72"I have just read on the sports section of internet in manchester evening news that hull kr are making a bid for daniel holdsworth is this going to be another player that we cant keep hold of or will the club bite the bullet and try and give him a deal most of us thinks he deserves.'"
neil72 The club made Richie Myler an offer that we are informed was actually more than Warrington offered him and he turned us down.
The club are trying to get Daniel Holdsworth to stay with us and will presumably be offering him a good deal but he could turn us down also, I hope he stays.
It's funny though that when the club announced the signing of Daniel some on this forum queried the wisdom of it, it's a funny world.
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"neil72 The club made Richie Myler an offer that we are informed was actually more than Warrington offered him and he turned us down.
The club are trying to get Daniel Holdsworth to stay with us and will presumably be offering him a good deal but he could turn us down also, I hope he stays.
It's funny though that when the club announced the signing of Daniel some on this forum queried the wisdom of it, it's a funny world.'"
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| So far hes going to HKR, Cas & Huddersfield. Busy lad. Just shows he was a good signing.
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| I'd be more worried if a Leeds, Wigan, Saints or Warrington were interested. Cas are not considered challengers or a rich club and wouldn't say Hull KR are that big a deal, who are also in lots of debt.
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| The Daniel Holdsworth deal was always going to be a cagey one... and a clever one by his agent. He was struggling in Australia to get a starting spot despite his talents... so his agent got him to The Willows on a one-year deal. Very clever stuff... we were searching a replacement for Myler in somebody that would give us an edge... and Holdsworth needed a shop window to display his talents. You only have to look at his frustrations when there isn't a performance from the team as he has no way to shine. His statement regarding the fact he is enjoying his stay in England and is keeping his options open... discussing things with his agent should speak volumes... This coming after our best performance of the season when people would have noticed him.
As a club we have been utilised / used by his agent to get bigger and better things for his client. Other clubs are now supposedly sniffing around.... and a couple of them no doubt are just being used to up the stakes.
Still.... if it get Salford a good player for a year and a few good performances... is it such a bad thing ? Once upon a time... clubs used to get Aussies in for a few months before they went back home... this isn't much different.
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| Unfortunately, I would be very surprised if 5/6 clubs aren't in for Daniel Holdsworth. IMHO, he's as good a HB as I've seen at Salford in the 20 years I've been watching the team he oozes class and ability and should be the type of player we should be breaking the bank (within reason) to keep and lead us into the new stadium. Looking at the squad at the moment IMO the players we should be looking to tie into long term deals are those listed below. If we can't keep hold of players with a shiny new stadium on the horizon then we never will be able to. If we can also keep the likes of Swain, Henry & Cashmere for the next couple of years then I'll be more than happy.
Reg - 26
Adamson - 22
Stef - 21
Jewitt - 23
Gibbo - 23
Boyle - 22
Sidlow - 22
And can we please make more of an effort with getting a new Holdwsorth chant. Something more original than nicking the Vieira/Diego/Nemanja song would be nice . I do recall a rather catchy tune being posted a couple of months back for Reg but obviously 2 verses is too difficult for the plebs in The Shed . We need to keep him on side after the amount of unwarranted the fans dished out to the players at the start of the season. BTW, no disrespect to HKR or Cas but why (with our new stadium on the way) would he want to move to either of them clubs? I know HKR and Cas are more attractive prospects this season but I genuinely feel the next 2/3 years will be the start of a massive new era for our fantastic club.
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| there were plenty of fans on saturday behind the sticks at the willows end telling him to get that contract signed, he just turned and smiled.....
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| Quote ="beezer"there were plenty of fans on saturday behind the sticks at the willows end telling him to get that contract signed, he just turned and smiled.....
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[iWell he's been offered a three-year deal with Salford City Reds
So it's up to him now to decide...
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| So the clubs offered him a 3 year deal....great news....lets hope he signs it now and it can prove a catalys for him and the club to move onto bigger and better things
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| Quote ="LincolnDEVILSFan"I'd be more worried if a Leeds, Wigan, Saints or Warrington were interested. Cas are not considered challengers or a rich club and wouldn't say Hull KR are that big a deal, who are also in lots of debt.'"
No, but Cas now have a massive amount of salary-cap space with Sherwin's move to Catalans (apparently on between 100k-150k depending on who you listen to), plus an overseas quota spot.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"No, but Cas now have a massive amount of salary-cap space with Sherwin's move to Catalans (apparently on between 100k-150k depending on who you listen to), plus an overseas quota spot.'"
100-150k? If that's the case then it's no wonder they've got rid.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"100-150k? If that's the case then it's no wonder they've got rid.'"
Worst value-for-money signing ever in my opinion. Consider how much of our cap he has taken for the past two and a half years, so plenty of room to make new signings in the half-back department.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Worst value-for-money signing ever in my opinion. Consider how much of our cap he has taken for the past two and a half years, so plenty of room to make new signings in the half-back department.'"
Yeah. Good riddance at that price... He was on the way down when he came over here. But hey, look around Super League and there are a few overpriced Aussies knocking about. Fitzgibbon and O'Meley were dire in their final year in Aus. I'm pretty sure they'll be on a fair sized wage at Hull though.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Worst value-for-money signing ever in my opinion. Consider how much of our cap he has taken for the past two and a half years, so plenty of room to make new signings in the half-back department.'"
Yeah. Good riddance at that price... He was on the way down when he came over here. But hey, look around Super League and there are a few overpriced Aussies knocking about. Fitzgibbon and O'Meley were dire in their final year in Aus. I'm pretty sure they'll be on a fair sized wage at Hull though.
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Think Fitzgibbon got POTY in his last season at the Roosters.
Whatever we are paying Fitz and O Meley they are worth every penny, been fantastic for Hull this season.
Holdsworth will be a good signing for anyone in SL, looks to me like he has used Salford to get over here and get a deal with a bigger club.
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| Would be more disappointed loosing Holdsworth than I was when we lost myler and turner if he was to leave after one season
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| Quote ="Dave K."
Holdsworth will be a good signing for anyone in SL, looks to me like he has used Salford to get over here and get a deal with a bigger club.'"
With the new stadium coming up and the promise of bigger and brighter things I would hope Reg sees the potential and stays.
He was not playing in Oz and in a real Rutt, Salford gave him a chance and he has took it with both hands.
We can not afford to get the so called stars so hunt around for bargain basement.
Over the past few years we have come up trumps, it just pi$$es me off when other clubs who can not be ar$ed doing their homework then come along with their cheque books.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Think Fitzgibbon got POTY in his last season at the Roosters.
Whatever we are paying Fitz and O Meley they are worth every penny, been fantastic for Hull this season.
Holdsworth will be a good signing for anyone in SL, looks to me like he has used Salford to get over here and get a deal with a bigger club.'"
POTY in a very poor Roosters side. I had the misfortune of watching them play on numerous occasions last year when living in Sydney.
Not disputing what you say with regards to their contribution for Hull but suspect that this may be another glaring example of the difference in quality between the NRL and Super League. When two players can play as poorly as they did in the NRL in 2009 can come over here and be regarded as top quality players, surely questions have to be asked...
As for whether they meet their value, well, we'd have to find out what they're being paid in comparison to the rest of the squad first. Although I suspect, on balance, that their pay cheques would be a little over-inflated.
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim"And can we please make more of an effort with getting a new Holdwsorth chant. Something more original than nicking the Vieira/Diego/Nemanja song would be nice .'"
This is your fault Slim
to the tune of montego bay by bobby boom (you tube it, youll all know it)
Were singing Dan
Were singing Daniel Holdsworth
Hoooooooollldsworth
repeat
original, quality...... ok 1 out of 2 isnt bad!
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| Reading the articles about Holdsworth being offered a new deal, a lot of them make for very similar reading to the news stories about Myler's contract offer last season. I wouldn't be surprised to see him announced as leaving come the end of the season which would be very disappointing.
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| There is a great difference between the Holdsworth and Myler stories though - Myler was on a contract that had further to run, it quickly became an open secret that he was going to Wire as they had a limitless pot of money, and because of that the club were going to make a significant chunk of cash.
As I understand it Dan Holdsworth is only signed for a season and is a free agent anyway, so it won't cost any other club anything in transfer fees, therefore it's inevitable that everyone will be sniffing around - he's a GOOD player!
I hope that he looks at the bigger picture, gets a good contract offer from Salford, sees the new stadium coming along and would like to be a part of the rise of Salford that we all know is coming (honest!!)
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| I was more referring to the fact that we're making it known in the press that we're offering him a new 3 year deal. Like with Myler, I get the impression that the club are putting details out in the press to try and placate the fans by showing that they've doing everything possible to retain Holdsworth. I don't mind being wrong about these suspicions though...
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| Loosing Dan will be a massive blow for us, its obvious just how good he is and every Salford supporter will be hoping he signs a deal. If he does sign with us and the new stadium coming along etc imo Holdsworth could become one of salford best players in a long long time.
Lets hope he gives us a chance.
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