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| Dates been set for the 25th April. Anyone going? What we think the outcome going to be?
It appeared someone got Marwan with an April fools joke saying we inline for a 6 point deduction. His response was strong saying he'd take it to the highest court if that was the case.
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| Really concerned about this and cant see past anything but a substantial points deduction. Perhaps that is me fearing the worst, but I just cant see how we're going to get ourselves out of it.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Really concerned about this and cant see past anything but a substantial points deduction. Perhaps that is me fearing the worst, but I just cant see how we're going to get ourselves out of it.'"
Would any points deduction come in next season rather than this season
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| Give us a points deduction that consigns us to the "bottom eight": no problem.
Give us a point deduction when we are in the bottom eight: interesting times.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Give us a points deduction that consigns us to the "bottom eight": no problem.
Give us a point deduction when we are in the bottom eight: interesting times.'"
Your problem is if they give you a points deduction bigger than the points you accumulate up to the end of round 23, and then have to start the middle eight's on minus the deficit points you failed to pull back. Good luck anyway.
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| Are the public allowed in? Is it at Red Hall ?
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| Last year all teams in the mid 8s reverted to nil points at the start of the competition: has it changed?
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| Isn't the precedent 2/4 points? How could they justify more?
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Last year all teams in the mid 8s reverted to nil points at the start of the competition: has it changed?'"
No I don't think it has, but working on the assumption that the RFL find you guilty who in their right mind would predict the outcome of the penalty they would incur on you, a fine I'm sure you could cope with but a massive points deduction is another matter, especially if they make them to run consecutive to what ever league your in.
Looking at it from the outside it certainly looks like they're doing their upmost to nip this in the bud and perhaps make an example.
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| Quote ="martin13"Isn't the precedent 2/4 points? How could they justify more?'"
Because those deductions were on the back of the RFL's failure to provide clear rules on things such as image rights. The clubs involved hadn't set out to break the cap as Salford are alleged to have done.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Because those deductions were on the back of the RFL's failure to provide clear rules on things such as image rights. The clubs involved hadn't set out to break the cap as Salford are alleged to have done.'"
I thought when Wigan got punished for it and deducted points it was to do with the fact they signed Stuart Fielden from the Bulls. They knew full well that it would push them past the salary cap but it would help to prevent relegation and they wouldn't be punished until the next season.
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| Quote ="whitters"I thought when Wigan got punished for it and deducted points it was to do with the fact they signed Stuart Fielden from the Bulls. They knew full well that it would push them past the salary cap but it would help to prevent relegation and they wouldn't be punished until the next season.'"
That's not really the full story though is it? They knew it would push them passed the limit, but got other players to defer wages until the following season. So, while they didn't spend more than the cap they did in the words of the panel "break the spirit of the cap" which is why they were punished.
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| What we do not know is what were the procedures followed by RLHQ when the tribunal information came to light. We are sure that this has been disussed and that the action followed senior decisions. Not that I think they were objective: we seem to have political (small p) deliberations which have delayed the matter: it is possible, and maybe (IMO) probable if Sadler's comments refer to this, that RL HQ were aware of the matter in the year that Bradford were relegated. This opens up the possibility that Mr Green could take action against RLHQ.
For more than us this will be squeaky posterior time.
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| Big Nigel was spotted with the Dr on Saturday. Interesting as the tribunal is near.
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| The greatest problem you have when it comes to the RFL and any points deductions is the two teams languishing at the bottom
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| Do any of you Salford lot think your chairman slagging the rfl off on
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| Rhetorical question or leading question?
Compared to last year, his silence is "the perfect herald of joy".
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| How come, everyone is assuming we are guilty of salary cap breach. There may be a simple explanation. We may just get a slap on the wrists and to be more careful in the future.
Just like Wigan and Saints did
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| Quote ="scoot"How come, everyone is assuming we are guilty of salary cap breach. There may be a simple explanation. We may just get a slap on the wrists and to be more careful in the future.
Just like Wigan and Saints did'"
I admire your optimism, however we are Salford & not Leeds. saints or Wigan?
Quote ="jetblack74"Do any of you Salford lot think your chairman slagging the rfl off on
twitter helps your cause?'"
I follow twitter & it is precisely how he as conducted is childish rants on twitter that I believe the book will be thrown at Salford, if we are not squeaky clean. I would suggest most clubs break the cap in some form or other but to continual rant & rub the RFL up will end up with only one winner, there is a right way to get your message across & it is certainly not in a childish manner over a glass of wine on twitter.
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| so the facts of the tribunal - or the outcome with be effected by whether we're pally with the RFL ..
SRLFC has always been handed the .... end of the stick , well before our new owner came along.
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| Whatever the outcome, it will be a huge impact on the season.
IF we get away with it and have no points taken off us i feel we can kick on and try get 7th or 8th no problems.
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IF we get points taken off us then i fear the worst. All the hard work the club have put into this season to get good results and then have a hard battle to make the top 8 will kill the confidence.
Its just typical Salford's luck. Beating Leeds Saints and when they were on form a good Widnes side at home. Important victory's away from home like Castleford and Huddersfield as well.
Im sure the Dr said he was working closely with The RFL before Green said anything about the salary cap as well so has the Dr been hiding something.
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| At the end of the day, The RFL have been waiting for Koukash to slip up with regards to the salary cap since day One, due to his childish drunken ramblings upon Twitter. We all know he's been fiddling in some way or another probably no different than any other Club, however, Koukash's problem in the past has been his vocalised admittance about tinkering the salary cap rules. and has obviously upset his co-conspirators resulting in a couple of court procedures. So the RFL bided their time and collected enough evidence they deem as necessary to bring the Club into question. They must have some pretty damning evidence to bring the matter to a head. Expect the worst and hope for the best is our Motto, which just what will typify the result of this case.
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| If we get a points deduction, as I expect we will especially with the predicament that Leeds are in, then we will have to compete and prove our worth in the middle 8's. That shouldn't be a problem. Meanwhile, really looking forward to seeing us against the in form team next week. Perpignan, here we come.
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| Anyone know if the tribunal is independent and where it is being held on Monday? Also is it open to media/public? Thanks
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| Does anyone happen to know as to what time the hearing is
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