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Has walked. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... ts-6213077

Sorry guys but I'm sure you'll agree - it's becoming a shambles that no one wants to be part of. Very worrying.

Strange timing this. I presume the apparent breaches of contract have been going on for a while as he has already previously submitted a transfer request, yet upon being dropped he has decided to resign, at a time where he can't play for another club until next season anyway.

Another fine mess.

Surprise surprise the club are denying everything and taking yet another player to a tribunal. Koukash is a d!ck end of.

Is there a registration deadline for free agents? Would that count as the same as a transfer? If so very strange timing. Maybe the Dr had a hand in it to stop him playing elsewhere.

Very sad if true, if any one was the future of the club it was Theo.

The owner needs to have a long hard look at himself and decide whether he is serious about running our club in a proper and respectful fashion. This 'my way or the highway' shtick has thoroughly run it's course as far as I am concerned.

The amount of talent that has been acquired and haemorrhaged in the last 3 years is beyond a joke. As in, just not funny.

Whilst we should be thankful for Dr Koukash saving the club from extinction, that grace period has now run out. The club's name is being dragged through the mud on an all too regular basis, and all the expletive-filled press conferences in the world will not convince me that he is constantly right and everyone else is wrong.

I expect to wake up soon and realise that my club could never have attracted the likes of Hansen, Locke, Hock, Chase, Dobson, the services of Tim Sheens, whilst playing in a shiny new stadium etc, etc, and yet managed to balls it up in such spectacular fashion...

Your owner is dragging Salford's name through the mud, The swearing in the press conference sums the guy up he's an embarrassment and now Theo wanting out is nothing short of a shambles?

Salford RL deserves better

We know. Many see the arrival of Sheens as our last hope into talking some sense into the owner and persuading him to take a more hands off approach. Time will tell I suppose.

Everyone seems to be jumping the gun looking for a scapegoat in MK. I'll stay out of that argument as I don't know the facts.

I also don't know the ins and outs of what's gone on behind the scenes, so I'll refrain from offering my version of whatever pessimistic/optimistic fantasy to speculate on. The only thing I'll note is the fact that the only other player to do such a thing looks like he doesn't have a case at all. That isn't to say everything's rosy but until the final outcome is known it doesn't do much good speculating. Shocking timing, and I'm with Talentspotter on this one. Theo drops down the pecking-order and wont sign a contract extension. Which is fine, as any player in that position would want to be first choice on the team sheet. Submits a transfer request as he's got plenty left on his contract. The Club put a price on him. He then waits until the start of the opening weekend fixture to throw his teddy out? Or maybe there's an interested party who doesn't want to pay a fee?

Whatever the reason, as a fan of Salford, I can't really forgive him for holding the Club to ransom these last few months like he's the next Darren Lockyer. Which he isn't. I'm willing to forgive him if I'm wrong, but for a player that was spotted and nurtured by Salford and given a chance at a young age. I'd have thought he would have been a little more dignified regardless of any problems for the sake of all those people and fans who've supported him.

Reading through the story on the Daily Mirror site and then various Tw@tter comments it would seem this matter was resolved,to the extent it heads to a RFL Tribunal,about a fortnight ago.

Why it has hit the press/public now,at a very important time for a number of clubs,is probably open to speculation.

Surprised by some views,when there does appear to have been questions raised in the past when young talent was permitted to leave your club with a minimum of resistance.

As an outsider,if the owner has put a price on the head of a player who is under contract and then the player takes a particular stance to facilitate a move,most people would stand four square with the owner.

I agree.

As usual, there's a lot of knee-jerking going on.

to much power has gone to players and their agents in recent years. I am a Wakey fan and have seen many a decent player force a situation to get a move when they were on contract with us. From the outside looking in and not knowing any background I just think its great that you have an owner who has the money to say no and then let the players stew. More power to his elbow I say. Agents are low life and `smaller ` clubs like Wakey have just had to suck it up.

It would be interesting/instructive to understand just what TM Sports' input into all this has been.

As well as being Theo's agent they also, of course, represent a Mr G Hock!

We all have opinions, none of us know all the facts, but we will all hurt the same...
The club in it's current state is rotten, hopefully the rot is not to the core

For me, this season and it's constant circus has already finished, to the extent that I probably wont attend any of the middle 8s fixtures... Need to become rehabilitated after my forced stay at "padded towers" and recharge my one remaining brain cell for next season

The Butcher, you say you are staying out of this as you don't know the facts, however then firmly round on the player. I know it is hard to see but something is clearly wrong. Harris, Fages, Locke, Hock, TP, CCJ's, Players not getting paid the list goes on. Something is wrong and badly wrong. To much smoke at your club.

I don't know what to make of anything surrounding the club these days. What the hell has happened since Easter? Everything seemed great until then, apart from the ongoing TP drama which was mainly hushed whispers at the time. I've lost interest to a large extent now, I can't see how we're even going to attract new players if there aren't major changes in the way the clubs portrayed over the coming months.

this is nothing new ,
Remember Jordan Turners .. bad back injury under McRae .
I also remember both Sculthorpe & Harris sitting out their Warrington Deals in an effort to move on .
still deeply depressing a ' home grown Player ' walking out on the cusp of a knife edge 7 game qualifiers tournament.

This

I base my opinion on the facts that I know, rather than the ones I don't. In Fages case it's quite simple. He dropped down the pecking-order behind Chase and Dobson. He then wouldn't sign an extension even though the Club told him he was valued and his time would come. He then put a transfer request in and the Club put a value on him. The value was high because it reflected what the Club thought of him, his remaining contract, and hoped he would come around. He then waits until just before we start our most important fixtures for years to upset the apple cart some more and try and resign and take the Club to tribunal. Something that another player who dropped down the pecking-order tried, and by the looks of it, failed.

I can't disagree with you when you say there's something wrong at Salford. That much is plain. But exactly what it is is just speculation to us.

On a personal level, if players want to go, let them. I'd rather support a group of players who want to be at Salford and are poop, rather than a bunch of players who think they're great but are poop.

You are discussing the affect here but don't know the cause. He is obviously very keen to leave. Dropped down the pecking order? To me it seemed more like soon as Dobson was fit he was out of the picture. Players are wanting to leave behind very lucrative contracts.

Do you think that Brian MC made that statement without hearing things?

Really none of my business but the fans need to know what they are spending their hard earn cash on, is it a Rugby League club or just some ones ego.

I am a Warrington fan, but I've always followed Salford's progress (or otherwise) with interest, as I work in Manchester just across the M60 from the AJ. It really does pain me to see what the Salford fans are going through. I was always of the opinion that MK was a breath of fresh air in our game and so supported most of his rant and raves (all be it with raised eyebrows!). I know the majority of what we hear is purely conjecture about MK's financial dealings, but IMHO there is no smoke without fire. Unfortunately now I think matters have got to the stage where something drastic has to happen to prevent the Salford name being tarnished more than it is. Could the club survive without The Docs money? (honest question to you supporters).

Salford loses money for its owner,always has done,so it's a rich mans hobby.
If we've breached Theo's contract terms,then he's entitled to take whatever action is open to him which may not necessarily mean that he can resign.
I suspect the RFL will be tough on the player,or it could open exit doors all over the place.
Very sad that it's come to this,it's happening constantly. Like toothache.

You're also discussing an affect without knowing the cause. You're speculating. We also have players signing extensions so it can't all be the Nazi death camp of SL players. Strangely, when Dobson was fit he WAS out of the picture. That's what we call a 'pecking-order'.

Yes. It really is none of your business, but feel free to lecture us on your own perceptions.

I'm not wearing rose-tinted glasses, here. I'm not supporting one side over another, and just a bit fed-up with my Club, the attitudes of some players, the owner, and the hordes of idiots who want to lecture Salford fans like we haven't heard the same old ty opinions repeated for the last two and half years.

I think we all know the club is/has been a shambles behind the scenes this year. The fact he wants to leave in the first place is down to the way things have been at the club in recent months. However the timing of this is what will leave a sour taste in regards to the fans/player relationship. No need whatsoever for it to be happen now when he is already transfer listed and more than likely would've been on his way in the off season anyway. A disappointing attempt to rock the boat before the most important part of the season and a big up yours to a fanbase who could even be described as being over supportive of Theo during his time at the club.