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| Struggling to fault that performance in the context of the season - best performance I have seen from a Salford side against a top four side in some time. The telling difference was the 10% that teams like Leeds manage to get right. A prime example being the moment when Rob Burrow cut off Greg Johnson when he was open half way through the second half - when we were faced with those situations we let Leeds through. Also looked like we were a little shy of fitness around the 50 minute mark, perhaps indicative of poor pre-season prep.
Signs are very encouraging though and if we turn that performance in for the last four games I feel we'll make that eighth spot. For next season we need to put a Plan B in place for when teams come up fast out wide to cut us spreading the ball. We seemed to be a little devoid of ideas in our short play at times.
Evalds, Walne and Fages - superb contributions.
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| I think you're being kind. The telling difference was Silverwood.
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| Great match, Salford have really come on leaps and bounds. If anything it does indicate that they couldn't run through Leeds and need a couple of props who can get them over the gain line and win the collisions against the top top teams.
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| Thought it was a great game, and even though we lost I don't feel particularly downhearted. Both teams played well and all the tries were never contentious. Like DR said, we lacked that little extra percent at crucial times, something that Leeds are masters at. No complaints really, except Leeds last try was a little soft as we turned into the old Salford. Another quality go-forward Prop may have been telling for us, but can't fault any players for their effort tonight.
Stand-out for me were Fages and Walne. Some great contributions from Hansen and Rapira put a lot of work in. Both wingers never shied away from the hard drives. Hopefully their confidence wont take too much of a knock as the performance was pretty good.
Fair play to Leeds, who also played their part in a good game.
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| Yep get some front rows signings as impressive as your recent backs and you'll make a big jump.
Perhaps debatable on here but I still think Chase is bit out of sink with his teammates to be a halve to lead his side to success?
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| Great attitude from the players, and I think that Leeds showed us some respect by opting for the kick at the penalty. Never any point at all blaming the referee, as we have no control over his decisions. What we can control:
Kicking out on the full from the kick off
Dropping a high ball in our own 20
Giving away penalty on the 5th tackle - twice
Get those things right and it doesn't matter what the ref does, we win that game.
We have a confidence about us that makes us a good side to watch at the moment, and once again credit to the players and go coaching staff. Keep going about your business quietly Mr Harris, I'm getting value for money and I love it!
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| Great game from both sides , maybe the 4 day turnaround had an affect on us , what happened to Lama Tasi ? one thing that left me vexed tonight was MCB in the build up to Watkins try , why did he try to push him in to touch instead of just tackling him ??
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| Only regret from tonight was Johnson not backing himself to take on Ablett & Hall when he received the ball on the 30 with 5 mins to go.
That guy has pace, but did not have the confidence to use it at the crucial time!
Other than that, solid performance. Conceding 22 points is no disgrace against a team like Leeds.
IMHO Wigan will beat us away, but after that we have 4 winnable games, if we have aspirations of the play-offs.
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| Quote ="the red fusilier"Great game from both sides , maybe the 4 day turnaround had an affect on us , what happened to Lama Tasi ? one thing that left me vexed tonight was MCB in the build up to Watkins try , why did he try to push him in to touch instead of just tackling him ??'"
The Tasi bit did cross my mind, but MCB is still young and will learn.
Other than Hardaker's try, the rest were all pretty soft, and you'd have to question what might have been if we hadn't given away penalties on the fifth tackle and Griffin hadn't tackled the catcher in the air.
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| Quote ="Branny"I think you're being kind. The telling difference was Silverwood.'"
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| Fantastic match between TWO good sides. Not been able to say those words after a fixture against Leeds in as long as I can remember.
If we keep improving like this, plus adding BJB, a prop and a hooker we will be a match for anyone next year.
I thought the younger players were outstanding tonight (Walne and Theo in particular) but what is most impressive is the progression of the team as a unit. The effort shown in defence was awesome and completely different to the noble era.
Also - no point blaming the ref. We had chances to win but that's how it goes sometimes. Its not a big conspiracy with all the refs favouring the big clubs. The only person who is definitely against us is Eddie Hemmings...
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| Classic play by McGuire. The knees first Big Daddy splash on young Theo as he scored his try, of course.
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| Watching it back now.
Still convinced the pass to Fages for the disallowed try wasn't forward, even rewound it three times!
Not got up to the suspected Leeds forward pass yet but thought it was fine and was just a flat pass when I saw it on the big screen in the ground.
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| I thought the pass to Fages was forward, but I also think the Leeds one was borderline. It certainly moved forward in relation to the ground, but that's not important if it is back in relation to the players (Stevo talks about the momentum rule. There is no such named rule. It is annoying, however, when he he refers to "the ball drifting forward". It doesn't matter where it drifts, it is the direction in which it is passed that's important.)
We were unlucky to have played so well and still come away with no points. However, I would make two observations:
Mozza did too many minutes because, basically, we only had two, nailed on props. The replacements, including Jordan Walne, who scored a great try, were back rowers. Apparently Tasi was poorly.
Secondly, we potentially wasted an opportunity by playing Locke. He is clearly not fit and was a waste of a replacement, forcing Tompkins to do more than appropriate and disrupting the plan. Evalds to start and Owen as replacement would have made more sense.
Or was MK too impatient to show off his new big name? If so, it may have cost him the game.
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"Idiot'"
Classy post fella. Well done.
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| Quote ="FataSini"The only person who is definitely against us is Eddie Hemmings...'"
He was an embarrassment last night.
His bias is so complete you can't help but think that Sky consider this a normal part of their broadcasting.
As for the game, I thought Silverwood was okay. He missed things for both sides which is plain human error and is just part of the game. No complaints from me.
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| Quote ="Derek Smalls"Classic play by McGuire. The knees first Big Daddy splash on young Theo as he scored his try, of course.'"
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| Quote ="Branny"Classy post fella. Well done.'"
While I don't for one minute believe you are an idiot... I guess I would be agreeing with why he said it...I disagree with your statement that Silverwood was the difference. Referees are not the difference in any game. You have 80 minutes to control your own destiny. If you get it right for 80 minutes... you don't drop a ball, you don't miss a tackle, complete your sets, and everything else that goes with it... then you win the game. If you see a couple of decisions over an 80 minute period that haven't gone your way... and you lose the game... then it's simple... you haven't done enough.
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| Leeds like Wire, Wigan & Saints have the extra couple of % in the big games, Its this that makes the difference, I think that 1 or 2 calls did go the way of Leeds. But Salford are definitely on the up & next season you will break into the top 8 & stay there.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"He was an embarrassment last night.
His bias is so complete you can't help but think that Sky consider this a normal part of their broadcasting.
As for the game, I thought Silverwood was okay. He missed things for both sides which is plain human error and is just part of the game. No complaints from me.'"
What Eddie and Stevo say is irrelevant. They served their purpose in the late 90s but should have been put out to grass long ago.
On the subject of sky what is their obsession with having a Koukash cam. Every other time I looked at the big screen they was showing his reaction to an incident.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"While I don't for one minute believe you are an idiot... I guess I would be agreeing with why he said it...I disagree with your statement that Silverwood was the difference. Referees are not the difference in any game. You have 80 minutes to control your own destiny. If you get it right for 80 minutes... you don't drop a ball, you don't miss a tackle, complete your sets, and everything else that goes with it... then you win the game. If you see a couple of decisions over an 80 minute period that haven't gone your way... and you lose the game... then it's simple... you haven't done enough.'"
It's easy to blame the ref. There was a handful of fans near me who spent the entire game abusing Silverwood. Of course there was dubious decisions, some go in your favour some against and all passionate fans will show their emotions. But if people want to pay £20 to have a crazed obsession with every decision the officials make I think it's a shame they couldn't have enjoyed the spectacle and Salford competing with one of the top teams.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"Watching it back now.
Still convinced the pass to Fages for the disallowed try wasn't forward, even rewound it three times!
Not got up to the suspected Leeds forward pass yet but thought it was fine and was just a flat pass when I saw it on the big screen in the ground.'"
Jesus mate, you need to go to specsavers
For the Salford one the bloke catching the ball was a yard in front of the player when he passed it so technically a penalty but these are never given and just instead penalised as a forward pass.
The Leeds one was probably forward as well but was more marginal as if McGuire doesn't get knocked back in the tackle on release it would have possibly looked marginal/flat at best. Could have gone either way but they are 50/50 calls. There is however no way on earth that your forward pass try was a 50/50 as it was forward all day long as the passer threw it to a man stood well in front of him.
Your team are definitely on the up and will be a force next year. Console yourself with that.
Great game to watch and one of the best if not THE best atmospheres I've heard at your new ground.
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| I think we all need to take stock of what we saw last night. 12 months ago our team were bottom of the league, last night we ran IMO the best team in the league all the way coming off 3 straight wins on the bounce. The corner has finally been turned and were looking all the world like a 'top 8' team.
Granted we had a dissapointing start under Noble, our recruitment wasn't as fantastic as it perhaps could have been but credit to Koukash and Harris who have reinvigorated our season.
I thought we missed Tommy Lee big time last night, distribution and defence from Tomkins was woeful at times. Jordan Walne was fantastic, Niall Evalds got over his dropped ball to put in another great shift, Theo was dangerous and Jason Walton was brilliant. All products of out academy.
It must have been a great game for the neutral to watch on Sky, very competitive and exciting game with an excellent atmosphere.
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| Hasnt been mentioned but Daryl Griffin had his best game of the season and credit to Moz as he tried to out do Peacock with Field Minutes.
Definitely on the up and terrific atmosphere from the Shed.
`Small town club culture` - alluded to earlier - yes we WERE - and now our fans need to realise that we have passed that point of departure and beginning to fly. First Class too I hope.
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| Quote ="right said father ted"It's easy to blame the ref. There was a handful of fans near me who spent the entire game abusing Silverwood. Of course there was dubious decisions, some go in your favour some against and all passionate fans will show their emotions. But if people want to pay £20 to have a crazed obsession with every decision the officials make I think it's a shame they couldn't have enjoyed the spectacle and Salford competing with one of the top teams.'"
We didn't get the rub of the green with two decisions that resulted in two tries for Leeds. Theo's disallowed try was forward. The Maguire pass could've gone either way. Evalds although not tackled whilst in the air had a hand laid on him. To the letter of the law it's a penalty but contact was negligible anyway. Some you win. Proud of the effort the team put in. I think top 8 is gonna be a tall order now but we won't be easy beats if we do make it. Wouldn't mind another crack at Leeds actually.
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