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| Reading a lot of negativity towards Harris, Man mangement, coaching methods etc and Wigan seemingly happy to see him leave or "not stand in his way". Hope Harris appointment doesn’t turn out to be a disastrous decision Ok the team hasn’t been performing as expected but with eight games gone was this really the right time for a change? … will he be given till the end of the season regardless of results ?
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| Think he needs a good assistant,would go for Adrian Morley had a good understanding when playing together at Leeds.
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| I can't understand people criticising Harris before he's even started the job. He was part of the success story at both Crusaders and Wigan. OK Wales didn't set the world on fire in the World Cup but let's be honest the players at his disposal were pretty inferior by International standards.
I have an open mind on this and will see what happens before I cast judgement.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"I can't understand people criticising Harris before he's even started the job. He was part of the success story at both Crusaders and Wigan. OK Wales didn't set the world on fire in the World Cup but let's be honest the players at his disposal were pretty inferior by International standards.
I have an open mind on this and will see what happens before I cast judgement.'"
It's all we can do really.
Never a dull moment being a Salford fan.
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| It dosn't make a sense on a few fronts but he still may do ok. The one thing that was noticeable in televised wigan games was the way Wane and Harris were some distance apart in the glass fronted box and didn't seem to converse. He hasn't had much to work with in the Wales squad but he must have all his coaching badges. It now means him starting afresh with his ideas and hoping that the Salford squad buy into it and he has to hope that they don't harbour grudges over Nobbys departure/sacking/promotion.
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| Wane and Harris some distance apart? Haven't you seen the at the DW? Flip!
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| Quote ="OzWelsh"Wane and Harris some distance apart? Haven't you seen the at the DW? Flip!'"
Cosy rather than an intimate relationship then ?
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| What an absolute pantomime your club has turned into. It's a total freak show.
Harris WON'T do the job the mad Doctor is demanding.
It shall not be long before you lot are calling for the head of Koukash.
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"What an absolute pantomime your club has turned into. It's a total freak show.
Harris WON'T do the job the mad Doctor is demanding.
It shall not be long before you lot are calling for the head of Koukash.'"
And so speaks the font of all knowledge? garbage? poo? or just utter bilge?
Think the least accurate answer is knowledge.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"I can't understand people criticising Harris before he's even started the job. He was part of the success story at both Crusaders and Wigan. OK Wales didn't set the world on fire in the World Cup but let's be honest the players at his disposal were pretty inferior by International standards.
I have an open mind on this and will see what happens before I cast judgement.'"
You are kidding, right?
My best mate was involved at the Crusaders at a level enough to get the inside story. In his one year tenure, he took them from the play-offs to bottom place. My team, Wakefield, had to field kids and championship players because of administration, and we still finished above them, even though their team had remained unchanged.
I can tell you that the feedback from within the Crusaders in that final year was that Harris had no game plan. End of. In the World Cup, he had a thin squad, but still underachieved. I tweeted this afternoon that Wakefield's survival hopes took a boost from Harris's appointment. It was retweeted by two back room people at the Crusaders, neither of whom I knew. It seems that the standing of Mr Harris in Wales ain't that high.
Good luck to you, because I've no beef with Salford, but as a Wakey fan, the news of Iestyn's appointment was the best news of the weekend.
If I turn out to be wrong, fine, throw it back in my face, but as far as I'm concerned, you have just joined us in the relegation battle.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"It dosn't make a sense on a few fronts but he still may do ok. The one thing that was noticeable in televised wigan games was the way Wane and Harris were some distance apart in the glass fronted box and didn't seem to converse. He hasn't had much to work with in the Wales squad but he must have all his coaching badges. It now means him starting afresh with his ideas and hoping that the Salford squad buy into it and he has to hope that they don't harbour grudges over Nobbys departure/sacking/promotion.'"
I hope it works with Harris but after only eight games they now have to get used to a different coaching system different ideas etc as in saying that koukash must now give Harris at least until the end of season no matter where the team finish or will it be all change in eight games time!!!
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| Same old salford joke we wont ever win bloody anything they never have a clue making joke calls like appointing harris what as he achived appart from finnishing bottom of league with crusaders
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| Quote ="eccles star"Same old salford joke we wont ever win bloody anything they never have a clue making joke calls like appointing harris what as he achived appart from finnishing bottom of league with crusaders'"
There you are eccles star!
It's been a while since the last crisis, your fingers must have nearly seized-up. Can always rely on you for forthright, hard to read, negativity without full stops.
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| Will the Good Doctor be taking over himself in 8 games time when you are further down the league?
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| Quote ="TheButcher"There you are eccles star!
It's been a while since the last crisis, your fingers must have nearly seized-up. Can always rely on you for forthright, hard to read, negativity without full stops.
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Feeling all nostalgic , this story has caused a tremor that seems to have woken up afew old timers from their antediluvian slumber.
Just need mitemouse-philyourboots to join in & smithy68 to start telling us of his dreams and it'll be just like the bad-ole-days
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| Quote ="TheButcher"There you are eccles star!
It's been a while since the last crisis, your fingers must have nearly seized-up. Can always rely on you for forthright, hard to read, negativity without full stops.
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Good God this is the last thing we need, there's more than enough malcontents from other teams infesting the board without those we all hoped had had the computer use privilege taken away from them by the staff at Meadowbrook.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"
My best mate was involved at the Crusaders at a level enough to get the inside story. In his one year tenure, he took them from the play-offs to bottom place. My team, Wakefield, had to field kids and championship players because of administration, and we still finished above them, even though their team had remained unchanged.'"
While I am surprised that Harris has left Wigan,with their involvement in Wales - and while I respect your posts on a number of subjects - I think it difficult to judge anyone against the backdrop at Crusaders,and their owners,during that period.
They may have ended with the wooden spoon but they did start with a 4 points deficit.
As a young coach at the time he demonstrated his strength of character with his willingness to discipline - [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/celtic-crusaders-suspend-7-stars-140166Story[/url
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"While I am surprised that Harris has left Wigan,with their involvement in Wales - and while I respect your posts on a number of subjects - I think it difficult to judge anyone against the backdrop at Crusaders,and their owners,during that period.
They may have ended with the wooden spoon but they did start with a 4 points deficit.
As a young coach at the time he demonstrated his strength of character with his willingness to discipline - [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/celtic-crusaders-suspend-7-stars-140166Story[/url'"
Or you could say that seven players had that little respect for him as a coach they went out on the lash in the lead up to a game.
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| Quote ="eccles star"Same old salford joke we wont ever win bloody anything th a ey never have a clue making joke calls like appointing harris what as he achived appart from finnishing bottom of league with crusaders'"
Good God he's back from the dead. Having been 6 ft under for 12 months he must have missed the departure of Simms & now Noble,
I dont suppose you have bought a ticket this year either Eccles have you?
If you are 'Eccles Star' then I would hate to see the supporting cast.
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"While I am surprised that Harris has left Wigan,with their involvement in Wales - and while I respect your posts on a number of subjects - I think it difficult to judge anyone against the backdrop at Crusaders,and their owners,during that period.
They may have ended with the wooden spoon but they did start with a 4 points deficit.
As a young coach at the time he demonstrated his strength of character with his willingness to discipline - [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/celtic-crusaders-suspend-7-stars-140166Story[/url'"
He'd lost the dressing room, simple as, with players frustrated at complete lack of a game plan.
It may be that he has learned from his time there, and his time with Shaun Wane may have been invaluable, but can you really see him having the strength and gravitas to deal with a rampaging Koukash? I can't help feeling that the coach required at Salford is one who will insist on being in charge, at excluding chairman when required, and that Harris has really just swapped one assistant coaching for another, except the head coach doesn't know much about on-field tactics.
I've no beef with Salford at all, and I really thought you'd be interesting this year, but it does seem like your biggest asset and saviour is also one of your biggest problems.
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| Slugger I think you are wrong about the loss of the dressing room at Cru. The problem there was that the players were not being [size=150paid[/size on time.
Rugby League players view this as #1 and it has always been the case.
Think we should give Iestyn the time now (12 months max) to show what he can do.
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| I just hope that this weekend’s shenanigans don’t effect the players in a negative way, we have a huge game on Friday night against Bradford, it’s a must win if we are serious about finishing 8-6. My fear is that the players will again have to get used to new coaching methods and idea’s and it will be like starting all over again. We need stability now, let the players gel, put some structures in place and start winning a few games. No doubt the players were still getting used to each other and Nobles structures so it concerns me that we’re effectively ripping all that up and starting again.
I don’t think Harris is the answer and a combination of player power and Marwan’s impulsiveness’ (if that’s the correct word) seems to be the reason for Nobles departure. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think Noble was the long term answer, but nor do I think Harris is. I give him 10 games and if we’re not looking like making the 8 he’ll be out.
Just as we thought things were looking up as well!! It seems it’s never that straight forward at Salford.
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| I can see Harris letting Long lose on the backs for this weeks game, as I mentioned on a previous thread I spotted him the other week working with the backs on plays that I doubt Noble would have let them try in a game situation. I can see this Friday things clicking and us rattling up a decent score, if what has been said is true the players who have been up in arms about Noble will I'm sure put that little bit more effort in.
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| Quote ="Michigan red" if what has been said is true the players who have been up in arms about Noble will I'm sure put that little bit more effort in.'" has anyone mentioned which players were up in arms with noble?
Anyone shed any light on who they are?
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| Quote ="martin13"has anyone mentioned which players were up in arms with noble?
Anyone shed any light on who they are?'"
Someone did say the other 6 senior players have been to the Doc 3 times over Nobles coaching methods. Morley I don't think was involved as he apparently was on Twitter saying how shocked he was.
Of the rest of the squad senior to me means Gleeson, Chase, HH, Smith, Meli, Puletua. Though that is nothing more than me thinking of the most senior players in the squad.
Doubt we'll ever really know but as others have said nothing ever seems to be easy with Salford.
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