I thought you guys had been fined and the incident was over, seems you have lost the 2 SL points !! www.superleague.co.uk/article/28 ... docked-two

I thought you guys had been fined and the incident was over, seems you have lost the 2 SL points !! www.superleague.co.uk/article/28 ... docked-two

It's because we appealed and lost

I'm suprised we even appealed against this. We should have been content that we didn't lose 2 points in the first place. Then again, docking us 2 points for appealing seems a bit draconian to me.

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Good result for us only 5K instead of 10K. Points don't matter were crap, and are going to finish in the bottom two anyway

Result. Justice prevailed.

Means nothing to us.

We're not going to be challenging for anything this year except the wooden spoon. So on reflection, the fine cut in half is a good result, not that it really matters to us anyway.

Why appeal then ?

I don't think we can put any positive spin on this.

I don't know if anyone has made you aware, but I didn't make the decision to appeal it. I'd suspect that someone at the Club has appealed it. At a guess.

it clearly means something to the people in charge else they wouldn't have appealed. plonker.

I stand corrected on the fine. It's actually been increased. However my initial point still stands. Of course it was appealed. A Club is always going to try and get a reduced punishment if the suitable avenues are available to them. In this case, the appeals process. Whether it should or not is another question. In the big scheme of things it's meaningless to us as a Club. It doesn't effect our chances of a top 8 place, there's no relegation, and we have an owner that probably takes more money than the fine as pocket money. So that's why it's meaningless. Plonker.

I'd hope this steeles the Docs resolve rather than makes him reconsider his involvement which the more you read seems a possible outcome.

they wouldn't have taken this risk if it was meaningless though. I don't understand how you can escape that fact.

Obviously they will have assessed the possible outcomes should the appeal be unsuccessful - clearly the £10k is peanuts to this guy so why bother?

If you dropped a quid down the drain you'd just sew your pockets up and walk off - not stick your arm in to try get it back

Looking at it the fact that the fine has been dropped but the sanction increased I think shows they know that £10,000 was loose change to the Doc.
Would have thought a two point reduction but suspended for a period with it being re instated if any other technical offences occurred would have been a better option.

I don't understand how you can escape the fact that, as a whole, it's meaningless to us as a Club regardless of what the administration has decided. I understand, as a Yorkie, that anything relating to money is a big deal to you but please tell me as a Salford fan how this outcome changes anything for us?

but what did the original outcome change for you!?

you say neither outcome matters - but it's still £5k and a two point deduction that you could've avoided.

why take risks for something you aren't bothered about?

to me, appealing was just trying to make a statement - the team cheated to win (without pointing fingers) ...there were bound to be consiquences, surely not losing the 2 points was a little bonus, albeit an unimportant one?

Not much changes for the fans (other than a bit of embarassment) granted but one thing for certain the Dr's threats to break the rules next year has been dealt a massive blow by the RFL. His "do whatever it takes" stance as taken a hit. Five grand and 2 competition points is no big deal though.

I rest my case.

The only point you can make actually says it's meaningless.

I also will reiterate that it wasn't me who appealed, but the Club. I can only say it from my perspective which is it means nothing in the long run. We lose two meaningless points and get a fine. It's hardly going to alter the future of Salford RL Club. If you want to debate whether it meant something to the guys that make the decisions you'll have to ask them, as a fan it means nothing. Zero.

No I agree with what you're saying, I just don't see why the club didn't just accept the punishment? It was heavey on the fine, but leniant on the points deduction... surely that was as good a result as they could hope for?

Come on, nobody wants to have points docked

I take your point to a certain degree.

The results of all this smacks of the RFL trying to reel in the Dr's comments, which were pretty naive to be honest.

That I do agree with you on entirely.

WHAT ?!?!?!?!?!?

CHEATED ?????

Are you for real ?

By suggesting we cheated suggests that it was something that was planned in order to win the game. It was a mistake... How can that be deemed as cheating ? You don't think somebody was stupid enough to attempt to sneak a 14th man on... during a live TV game and think that it would go unnoticed. Do you really thing that somebody said 'Quick... 4th official isn't looking... Cas look dangerous here... let's sneak another man on... nobody would notice'

The fine and the points seem excessive... I'd have been happier declaring the game as a draw as both teams did actually deserve something from the game.

For Salford this season, it doesn't really matter. It's an extended pre-season filled with a team of everyone else's rejects. To have any points at this stage is a huge bonus imo. Maybe the Club had nothing to lose and it backfired? I don't know. We've been through so many trials and tribulations this year that docking us points and fines were almost inevitable and we've probably become numb to these type of things.

I don't understand why anyone is bothered or surprised by this. It was a stupid mistake, and deserved to be punished.

The initial fine felt harsh, especially given the prescient set with Saints’ fine for the same rule break in previous seasons - halving it softens the blow. I imagine this was the logic behind the appeal.

The points deduction shouldn't bother us too much, our recent performances are far more concerning than our points tally. Given the way we started the season we're about where we should be - bottom of the ladder, grateful to have a team out on the pitch and amazed that we've picked up any points.

The attitude of some Cas fans is strange though. To the best of my knowledge they haven’t been awarded the two points (I could be wrong, though). If I was in their camp I'd be more worried about their inability to beat by a side made up of cast offs and loan signings hastily thrown together a few weeks before the season. Their nearest and dearest managed to do so convincigly this week...