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I never complain to a broadcaster but that shambles made my blood boil so I did complain to dear old Auntie Beeb
Heres the reply.....
The best part of the reply is the 36 Hours live coverage in 2013.
Woopee fkin doo
Thanks for getting in touch with us regarding Richard Bacon’s BBC Radio 5 Live programme, broadcast on Monday 22nd April.
We note you feel the quality of the Rugby League cup draw was poor and comments made by Richard could be seen as offensive to fans.
The team have asked us to personally thank you for getting in touch and to assure you that BBC Radio 5 Live and sister station BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra are absolutely committed to coverage of Rugby League.
They explain that thus far in 2013, the stations have broadcast some 36 hours of live coverage of the sport and that they’ve secured the rights to broadcast this year’s World Cup with an aim to offer live coverage of all 28 matches.
BBC Radio 5 Live’s commitment to the sport was further demonstrated by their desire to undertake the Challenge Cup fifth round draw live on air from our Salford studios on Monday.
However, the team responsible do acknowledge in light of your points that they didn’t get the tone of the draw right on air.
The team have discussed this with Richard Bacon himself along with his production team and Richard acknowledges that he got the tone wrong thus he apologises to listeners as he genuinely didn’t mean to upset any Rugby League fans.
Thank you again for getting in touch and allowing us to investigate your concerns with the team directly involved, and to respond.
We very much hope that you will feel reassured as to the BBC’s on-going commitment to Rugby League across BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra, and that you will agree that we have taken your points on board.
We appreciate your concerns on this matter and would like to assure you that we’ve registered your concerns on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that's made available to many BBC staff, including our Executive Board and senior management.
The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
Robin MacDonald
BBC Complaints
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
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I never complain to a broadcaster but that shambles made my blood boil so I did complain to dear old Auntie Beeb
Heres the reply.....
The best part of the reply is the 36 Hours live coverage in 2013.
Woopee fkin doo
Thanks for getting in touch with us regarding Richard Bacon’s BBC Radio 5 Live programme, broadcast on Monday 22nd April.
We note you feel the quality of the Rugby League cup draw was poor and comments made by Richard could be seen as offensive to fans.
The team have asked us to personally thank you for getting in touch and to assure you that BBC Radio 5 Live and sister station BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra are absolutely committed to coverage of Rugby League.
They explain that thus far in 2013, the stations have broadcast some 36 hours of live coverage of the sport and that they’ve secured the rights to broadcast this year’s World Cup with an aim to offer live coverage of all 28 matches.
BBC Radio 5 Live’s commitment to the sport was further demonstrated by their desire to undertake the Challenge Cup fifth round draw live on air from our Salford studios on Monday.
However, the team responsible do acknowledge in light of your points that they didn’t get the tone of the draw right on air.
The team have discussed this with Richard Bacon himself along with his production team and Richard acknowledges that he got the tone wrong thus he apologises to listeners as he genuinely didn’t mean to upset any Rugby League fans.
Thank you again for getting in touch and allowing us to investigate your concerns with the team directly involved, and to respond.
We very much hope that you will feel reassured as to the BBC’s on-going commitment to Rugby League across BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra, and that you will agree that we have taken your points on board.
We appreciate your concerns on this matter and would like to assure you that we’ve registered your concerns on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that's made available to many BBC staff, including our Executive Board and senior management.
The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
Robin MacDonald
BBC Complaints
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
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| An air brush of a reply in my opinion.
It was a shambles from start to finish and you had to feel sorry for the great Billy Boston having to suffer it.
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| Just so I understand ,what more would you have expected them to say??
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| I'm thinking of writing a similar letter to BBC Radio Manchester after they allowed Doctor koukash to make a mockery of the league and the Salary cap with his statement today that he "intends to use every Mechanism available to spend over the Salary Cap"
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"I'm thinking of writing a similar letter to BBC Radio Manchester after they allowed Doctor koukash to make a mockery of the league and the Salary cap with his statement today that he "intends to use every Mechanism available to spend over the Salary Cap"'"
Nice one, go for it.
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| I suppose he is only saying what others already do. And, if he is using mechanisms then that is ok, as a mechanism is only a process, or way of using the system. If he had said he was going to cheat, like others have done in the past, then you could have a point to make.
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| Quote ="Bill52"I suppose he is only saying what others already do. And, if he is using mechanisms then that is ok, as a mechanism is only a process, or way of using the system. If he had said he was going to cheat, like others have done in the past, then you could have a point to make.'"
did you hear the segment on GMR?...the tone of his voice didnt sound good.....maybe it was his kuwaiti accent but it had a certain defiance about it. But for a guy who has been in the game a couple of months I think he has some brass neck.
It certainly wasnt a "ok the caps the cap we'll stick to that and create a club that players want to join regardless of the amount I can pay them"
Maybe he thinks offering the average NRL star unlimited access to days out on the gee gee's is a great idea.
I have no doubt we used Mechanisms to get Andrew Johns over. as did Bradford with Moz...and immediately those mechanisms were closed. He'll find the same happens again only a bit quicker if he continues with his whinging on the radio to anyone who will listen
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"did you hear the segment on GMR?...the tone of his voice didnt sound good.....maybe it was his kuwaiti accent but it had a certain defiance about it. But for a guy who has been in the game a couple of months I think he has some brass neck.
It certainly wasnt a "ok the caps the cap we'll stick to that and create a club that players want to join regardless of the amount I can pay them"
Maybe he thinks offering the average NRL star unlimited access to days out on the gee gee's is a great idea.
I have no doubt we used Mechanisms to get Andrew Johns over. as did Bradford with Moz...and immediately those mechanisms were closed. He'll find the same happens again only a bit quicker if he continues with his whinging on the radio to anyone who will listen'"
Thanks for getting in touch regarding Dr. Marwan Koukash's segment on GMR. We note that you felt the tone of Dr. Koukash's interview was poor and may have been offensive to a long suffering Warrington fan. Here at RLFANS we personally thank you for raising concerns over our new owners approach to the media & the salary cap. We would like to assure you that Dr. Koukash is absolutely committed to finding a way around the cap, legal or not. Koukash explains that he's taken over an absolute balm pot club and in under 2 months without doing anything at all on the pitch he's already got fans of other cheating rascal clubs worried about what he may achieve. He does however acknowledge that his actions however are not what are expected of a chairman new to a sport that has a 'status quo'. Dr Koukash apologies unreservedly and will in future ask the presenters of GMR to pre-warn their listeners that he may say something a little controversial so all the suffering Wire fans like yourself can turn off the radio.
Thank you again for raising your concern here on RLFANS and rest assured Flying Biscuit that in all honesty, we couldn't give a flying f............
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"snip'"
Of course Warrington never ever bend the rules.
Tony Smith said the salary cap should be raised only a few months ago and now little old Salford say it should be then that is wrong.
The big four have finally got a new challenger, live with it.
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Of course Warrington never ever bend the rules.
Tony Smith said the salary cap should be raised only a few months ago and now little old Salford say it should be then that is wrong.
The big four have finally got a new challenger, live with it.'"
I'm a little uncomfortable with statements like this.
We've challenged nobody yet, let alone the top four Clubs. I feel that some fans are jumping the gun a little and all they do is set themselves (and the rest of us) up for an embarrassing downfall.
Save the boasting for when we are justified to do so.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"the tone of his voice didnt sound good.....maybe it was his kuwaiti accent but it had a certain defiance about it.'"
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I'm a little uncomfortable with statements like this.
We've challenged nobody yet, let alone the top four Clubs. I feel that some fans are jumping the gun a little and all they do is set themselves (and the rest of us) up for an embarrassing downfall.
Save the boasting for when we are justified to do so.'"
I'd like to see the Doc tone it down as he runs the risk of taking us to the levels of people's dislike of Warrington.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"I'd like to see the Doc tone it down as he runs the risk of taking us to the levels of people's dislike of Warrington.'"
I'm not sure that Warrington is particularly disliked ( apart from by Loyal Fan who once explained that his view of an entire town and rugby club was down to one bad experience with a former girlfriend's dad ). If they are disliked, it's probably because they HAVE finally made it into the 'big four'. However, this is only a recent achievement, going back less than five years, and no doubt some other club's fans don't like it. If Salford achieve the same thing, expect a similar backlash from fans of clubs who don't like to see their rivals make progress.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I'm a little uncomfortable with statements like this.
We've challenged nobody yet, let alone the top four Clubs. I feel that some fans are jumping the gun a little and all they do is set themselves (and the rest of us) up for an embarrassing downfall.
Save the boasting for when we are justified to do so.'"
OK I will revert to the normal Salford fan type.
We are doomed and no money in the world can save us.
We are a basket case and even if we do ever challenge the top four we are destined for failure as little Salford just cant do this can they.
Is that better
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| We just need to find a happy medium, that's all Butcher meant I think.
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| Quote ="Happy Red"We just need to find a happy medium, that's all Butcher meant I think.'"
No,let them argue,it's more fun!!
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"OK I will revert to the normal Salford fan type.
We are doomed and no money in the world can save us.
We are a basket case and even if we do ever challenge the top four we are destined for failure as little Salford just cant do this can they.
Is that better'"
Stop being a little girl.
All I said was tone it down a bit, not become bipolar.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Stop being a little girl.
All I said was tone it down a bit, not become bipolar.
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Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
Does anyone have a link to the BBC Manchester interview with the Doc on?
And as for the BBC think it's coverage of RL in general is pretty poor, Ray French is as bad as Eddie & Stevo on SKY. Mark Chapman is a pretty decent presenter but as on SKY new blood is desperately needed.
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| I've disliked Ray French for years. Stereotypical, thick, prone to making far too many gaffs, and mentions Union every chance he gets. With Eddie & Stevo, it's the Eddie and Stevo show, liberally sprinkled with bias, personal opinion, and nonsense. I respect Stevo as a fella, an ex player, and everything he did for RL with regards to the museum. But as a commentator he needs to just commentate on the game. The rest of the Sky monkeys are not much better tbh.
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| I really can't see why the biggest terrestrial and satellite broadcasters don't see what RL virtually universally agree on.
The game is trying to foster the image of a fast paced athletic product where its presenters are now getting past middle wheezing pundits.
Don't see why someone like SKY don't make a big thing of handing over the reigns with some form of fans input into who succeeds the current 'experts'.
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| Really? you bothered writing in to the Beeb to complain over 'a draw'.
I bet your family love you and your enthusiasm for life.
You wasted your life and felt angry over that, k'in hell now you've no reason to moan about the dire state of your club you resort to boring the pants off BBC R5 team.
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| Dear Horatio , there's a saying where l live "JE BENT EEN IDIOOT,GA DER WEG. Translate and take the advice.
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| Quote ="ANTWERP RED"Dear Horatio , there's a saying where l live "JE BENT EEN IDIOOT,GA DER WEG. Translate and take the advice.
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Waar, zeer waar.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I'm a little uncomfortable with statements like this.
We've challenged nobody yet, let alone the top four Clubs. I feel that some fans are jumping the gun a little and all they do is set themselves (and the rest of us) up for an embarrassing downfall.
Save the boasting for when we are justified to do so.'"
Spot on Chief. I'm still waiting for Craig Gower and Anthony Minichello to turn up.
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| Quote ="ANTWERP RED"Dear Horatio , there's a saying where l live "JE BENT EEN IDIOOT,GA DER WEG. Translate and take the advice.
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I was pulled apart on my own board so a silly insult from someone in Belgium is hardly going to change my opinion.
This country is turning into whiny little scroats, offended by everything and constantly complaining about the most insignificant things, things that shouldn't matter. Bacon didn't know Boston and someone said a wrong number.
Meanwhile Syria and countless other countries kill its citizens, banks rob people dry, people stab each other on the streets and the real governments are businesses buying politicians to screw the working man over.
We're turning into a nation of scousers ffs moaning about everything and trying to get attention for it.
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