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| Well he's a sack of $hit, y evalds was dropped is beyond me! Had a great night, real excitement umongst the fans! Sorry for moaning on a great night but Mark Berry needs a bollocking for how unfit the players are! Half of them are over weight and looked goosed at the end.
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| Quote ="Stanley30"Well he's a sack of $hit, y evalds was dropped is beyond me! Had a great night, real excitement umongst the fans! Sorry for moaning on a great night but Mark Berry needs a bollocking for how unfit the players are! Half of them are over weight and looked goosed at the end.'"
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| Rhys williams only came on loan 4 days ago , its the warrington conditioner that Should get a Bollocking!! .
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| Fitness was a factor but actually being able to catch a ball and put a tackle in is usually quite a key requirement of being full back. Neville the Devil would have been more dependable. Pathetic performance really.
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| Arrived at the game in high spirits with the new regime coming on board. I half expected a drubbing but the passing was atrocious especially from fages and McGoldrick for half backs at this level. Rhys Williams looked overweight and unfit to me, murphy looked disinterested overall very disappointing display but under the circumstances it's understandable why. i noticed very basic schoolboy errors being committed on that field which quite simply wasn't superleague standard. We got battered by a very average Wigan team, I've seen better Wigan teams than that in the past 30 years. Mr Koukash joined us after the game and promised better players Will be joining us in the coming months which gives me optimism and clear indication that things can only get better.
Phil and Sean have got there hands full with that lot.
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| You lot are pathetic. A few weeks ago you were desperate for kids like Murphy to help you out.
He did make a few mistakes, all players do at times.But for the Salford fans to cheer ironically after he did take an high ball won't really do his confidence any good.
He's a good player , give him a chance.
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| I know i have critizised club in the past but this time i can see it as it is half these players have been thrown together at last munute and are bound to struggle with any game play the team needs to get to know each other. It is not going to happen just like you expect and once we start playing togeather. It must have been hard for these players money but critiziseing a team that you know have not been together long is a joke. Some of you just expect miricales to happen there and then
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| I think bottom of the league this year seeing that performance.
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"I think bottom of the league this year seeing that performance.'"
That's harsh they have Tomkins so I think they'll come at least 13th.
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| Anything other than bottom of the league will be a bonus. You can't expect to throw a team together at such short notice, especially in key positions, and expect anything against a team like Wigan.
I said it wouldn't take long before the slagging-off would commence and I'm sadly proved right.
I think we should just get behind the lads and be thankful we have a team at all.
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| The result last night means little - it's the performance that counts. I saw plenty of effort and that'll do me. Yes, the attack was poor - it's going to take weeks for that to start falling into place. Murphy had a shocker - still unsure how a couple of games in Super League make him vastly more experienced than Evalds. McGoldrick as one of the senior players was very poor - no excuses for so many handling errors and sloppy passes - he needs to step up and assume some responsibility and help lead the team. On a positive note I thought McPherson and Gledhill ran hard and straight. And best of all young Fages: great varied kicking game, couple of off the cuff plays, not afraid to take on the line - a superstar in the making. Clearly O'Loughlin thought so when he tried to take his head off...
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Anything other than bottom of the league will be a bonus. You can't expect to throw a team together at such short notice, especially in key positions, and expect anything against a team like Wigan.
I said it wouldn't take long before the slagging-off would commence and I'm sadly proved right.
I think we should just get behind the lads and be thankful we have a team at all.'"
Come on Butcher, were not expecting miracles, any halfback what cannot pinpoint a 10 - 15 yard pass to hand is pretty bad. We are talking superleague here. Age means nothing if you're good enough you're old enough I take it you wasn't at the game as usual. I've heard nothing but praises about this young French lad, I hope he proves me wrong but a spade is a spade in my world, didn't see any flashes which I've seen in many of young talent to come through our academy. I feel for the kid he's simply out of his depth but applaud his endeavours attitude and bravery.
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| Here here butcher. A very large number of reds fans have no patience and need to realise rome wasnt built in a day. The very fact that we had a team to turn out last night is one of great relief. This is a complete new era as Mr Koukash has said and it takes time to build success. The team that played last night have been thrown together at short notice and are still getting to know how each one of them plays. Kepp the faith salford fans and lets get behind the players in what is going to be probably a difficult season.
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| Well Phil he won the Man of the Match given by a top Player from the 70s so there must have been something there. I thought his kicking was good & he saw the gaps when presented.
Totally agree about the passing and Longy has to get them to spin pass (sadly even the Rah Rahs pass better) & also pass like Matty Smith - deeper and to a man on the burst.
It will come.
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| Salford fans have to be realistic. The cu is in a situation not even new franchises face and we know how difficult they find SL. It will be easier for the new owner to solve off field issues, on field may take all this season and some of next season.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Well Phil he won the Man of the Match given by a top Player from the 70s so there must have been something there. I thought his kicking was good & he saw the gaps when presented.
Totally agree about the passing and Longy has to get them to spin pass (sadly even the Rah Rahs pass better) & also pass like Matty Smith - deeper and to a man on the burst.
It will come.'"
I think effort got him the Mom. which I'm not being critical of. No one was worthy of mom. Oh by the way Charnley shown Broughton a clean pair of heels to score in the corner which surprised me too. My money would of been on Broughton to smash him in touch.
And I know Rome wasn't built in a day. Doesn't stop us calling a spade a spade does it.
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| Quote ="Philyourboots"Come on Butcher, were not expecting miracles, any halfback what cannot pinpoint a 10 - 15 yard pass to hand is pretty bad. We are talking super league here. Age means nothing if you're good enough you're old enough I take it you wasn't at the game as usual. I've heard nothing but praises about this young French lad'"
You must ave been at the wrong game or you have still got your Mr Wilkinson tinted glasses on? Would the connection have anything to do with him staying in Shirley's residence.
Yesterday was all about being able to get a team on the pitch, in my opinion Theo Fages stood out as the one player able to break the game line. he never shirked is responsibility & throughout the game was given no protection by the Salford players around him (not a criticism), because the passing was slow he was continually under pressure. Wigan targeted him as a potential threat, well done Theo I thought you were the stand out Salford Player last night.
Well done to PV & SL & your back room staff for your hard work.
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| Quote ="Derek Smalls"The result last night means little - it's the performance that counts. I saw plenty of effort and that'll do me. Yes, the attack was poor - it's going to take weeks for that to start falling into place. Murphy had a shocker - still unsure how a couple of games in Super League make him vastly more experienced than Evalds. McGoldrick as one of the senior players was very poor - no excuses for so many handling errors and sloppy passes - he needs to step up and assume some responsibility and help lead the team. On a positive note I thought McPherson and Gledhill ran hard and straight. And best of all young Fages: great varied kicking game, couple of off the cuff plays, not afraid to take on the line - a superstar in the making. Clearly O'Loughlin thought so when he tried to take his head off...'"
Agreed, Mcpherson was far & away our best forward , saw enough of the Frenchman to see why they gave him a 5 yr deal. some nice touches in a team performance it was hard to shine in . McGoldrick , R Williams , J Murphy looked like like three players thown in at the deep end , Murphy had a 'mare , but he wasn't alone.
An overall bad team performance for all sorts of reasons , however it was scoreless for 13 minutes , only went in 0-16 at the half , and were exposed by moves from Charnley, Tompkins & Liam Farrell that would undone more elevated opposition than us.
Although the coaching team put on a brave face during the troubles Veivers admitted "We've lost an entire pre-season,"I've had players in the pipeline --, although I've probably lost a few because of the period of time we've been waiting for the takeover to be completed".
We had Howarth & Gleeson out and still have the two Manly Guys to arrive at least .
Hull touted top 4 side lost 36-6 to Leeds with their big money signings
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| I'm not having that "lost an entire preseason" bollox, how come the players who were here last year look so unfit? I can understand a lack of cohesion and not having slick set moves, that's understandable but players being overweight and out on their feet for the last 20 in the 1st game of the season is not good. There's being match fit and unfit and half of them are unfit!
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| I've no doubt Murphy will become a classy player down the line but do think last night he looked like a rabbit in the headlights slightly.
Think that Wigan new how to target him and that they did so very well knocking his confidence early on.
Do as others have said think that Evalds looks like a belting little player in the Fitzy mode and I hope that him being felt out doesn't make him lose faith and look for a move as he is one who would drop down a league for a year or two and then be back with a SL team fulfilling his undoubted potential.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"I've no doubt Murphy will become a classy player down the line but do think last night he looked like a rabbit in the headlights slightly.
Think that Wigan new how to target him and that they did so very well knocking his confidence early on.
Do as others have said think that Evalds looks like a belting little player in the Fitzy mode and I hope that him being felt out doesn't make him lose faith and look for a move as he is one who would drop down a league for a year or two and then be back with a SL team fulfilling his undoubted potential.'"
I know this mard ars. as blocked me and others who disagree with his thoughts,again i disagree,if he has`nt got it now he never will have. Instance,Paul Charlton,K Radlinski,P Wellens, B Slater,D lockyer,and the brilliant S Tompkins,the list is endless,did they get shunted off to play in a lower comp?Nah did they hell.
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| Quote ="Stanley30"I'm not having that "lost an entire preseason" bollox, how come the players who were here last year look so unfit? I can understand a lack of cohesion and not having slick set moves, that's understandable but players being overweight and out on their feet for the last 20 in the 1st game of the season is not good. There's being match fit and unfit and half of them are unfit!'"
So Losing, Moon - Holdsworth- Smith- Patten - Anderson - Adamson - Gleeson - Paleaasina- Sidlow. and other than Dixon only starting to recruit replacements this week is a structured pre-season. Not knowing if you're getting your mortgage paid or whether the club will exist next month condusive .
They didn't look unfit ,they were knackered after defending for pretty much the whole 2nd half. outclassed not unfit
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| Quote ="middleman"So Losing, Moon - Holdsworth- Smith- Patten - Anderson - Adamson - Gleeson - Paleaasina- Sidlow. and other than Dixon only starting to recruit replacements this week is a structured pre-season. Not knowing if you're getting your mortgage paid or whether the club will exist next month condusive .
They didn't look unfit ,they were knackered after defending for pretty much the whole 2nd half. outclassed not unfit'"
Why did we lose these players?So they looked fit to play in your eyes,in my world they did`nt,great for 20 mins after that they where knackered.A second rower from Wigan burnt our winger off,get real ,they are unfit.
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| In a World Cup year I am more surprised that people are not focussing on the error of judgement by the rugby league media-darling and highly-rated Sam Tomkins;and on his failure to take a high kick at a time in the game when the pitch had dried out and the game was won,than I am by the criticism of a young player who tried too hard and had his confidence shot.( But not on this forum)
It's probably just as well that the pre-season SCR games count for nought and the spine of the side was altered to include at least one player who has a lot of work to do regarding fitness.
Statistically the one and only testing kick the international player had to deal with resulted in total failure whereas Murphy dealt with quite a few adequately.
After Murphy failed to dive on top of the ball and choose to try and collect it and run,it was good to see he had the presence of mind to at least vary his final restart.
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| I despair at some of the cretins who post on here.
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