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| If as seems to be the case there is significant new investment or ownership of the club just around the corner what changes would people honestly like to see?
First if we did say miraculously see Salford spending the full cap next season (I can't figure out why there has been no signings announced other than waiting to see if the small budget we currently have will be scrapped in favor of an increased one) would people be happy to see PV stay in charge? I don't doubt he is talented but if you think about it this season we have achieved what we did going forward and think pretty much everyone excepts that this is Longs doing. With the decision on franchises looming on the horizon again could we afford to let someone with no great experience of bringing in top players (our best player let's not forget was signed by Parish) rather than getting someone more used to working with them?
Not saying PV isn't capable just I have a slight niggling doubt to why the team failed to perform as well in defense as they did in attack.
Think anyone who invests or takes over the reigns at the club needs to invest money in the marketing side, would undoubtedly lead to short term loses but if done right would over time begin to pay dividends. Also someone with a ruthless business accumen needs to be brought in to run the club and not have any affiliations to people currently at the club. There's no need investing in processes and people who clearly don't produce the goods and have been given ample time to already to prove themselves.
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| I think one of the main reasons we lacked progress in defense is the fact that we did not have a solid forward base that would drive defensive efforts. All the coaching in the world wont make up for the fact that our forwards were our weak spot this season. I think we would be stupid to get in another face so soon after PV getting the job anyway. Personnel changes in coaching positions cause all kinds of different reactions throughout the player-base, not all of which can be positive. I think PV and Long are the perfect team for us at the moment. Both hungry after being given an opportunity, both winners, and both highly respected. It would be nice to see what they can do with a full cap.
Whether we ever see a full cap side take to field is another question.
I agree, MR, that the stuff off the field needs to be honed and sorted. Although, to be fair, maybe the reason we struggle sometimes is exactly the same reason as why the team under performs. Personnel and money.
It would be nice to see some money and hope come into the Club at the moment. It would change everyone in the blink of an eye.
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| For me the money would be best spent bringing the club up to standard as a professional sports club. The whole backroom staff needs to be looked at and rather than mates/family having the jobs lets make sure we have the best people in there.
If Phil stays then make sure he has the coaching staff assistants he needs, if that means bringing in a defensive specialist so be it.
Next we need to ensure recruitment is team based, make sure they fit with what we already have and that they are the type we need. No more moaning players.
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| did we actually get any money for Holdsworth? if so will that be re-invested. Criminal if we didnt get a transfer fee!!
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| According to the `ull board. The contract was cancelled by mutual consent.In other words , we must have owed him some money, but we couldnt afford to pay him, so the two clubs have reached an agreement over who pays him.
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| sorry to say it is not up to PV to sign players, that is why pay SS to get all the class players he has signed over the years.
sorry i can not name one
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| What investment,lets see if there is anybody that stupid that would fund us with new finance,and let the present
incumbents spend it.would anybody on this forum do that,come on be honest.
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| lancetodd that's probably the only post you've ever made that I agree with!
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| I have heard you are looking at a loan type of investment from PROBIZ (current sponsors of Cas Tigers and Fev Rovers).
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I have heard you are looking at a loan type of investment from PROBIZ (current sponsors of Cas Tigers and Fev Rovers).'"
I sincerely hope not! Loans attract interest and have to be paid back - IMHO the type of investment Salford needs is an equity partner with serious management skills, if all we can raise is a loan to keep us scraping along that would not really be progress
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| I cant think that Probiz will lend money to Salford or ANY Super League club without substantial Personal Guarantees/Security/Debentures. As Barton said - we need equity capital not Loans.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I have heard you are looking at a loan type of investment from PROBIZ (current sponsors of Cas Tigers and Fev Rovers)......'"
....and [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id=100Wigan[/url and [url=http://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2010/11/27/halifax-rlfc-have-teamed-up-alongside-probiz-group-of-companies/Halifax[/url and [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id=5551&type=newsThe World Club Challenge[/url and possibly replacing Stobart for Super League for [url=http://www.superleaguefans.com/rugby-league/2012/01/04/probiz-to-sponsor-super-league.html2013 ?[/url
Someone different I hope,with a determination for Salford (alone) to succeed.
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| A loan is not investment and would be very risky unless we are getting offered it open ended and someone is underwriting the whole thing.
That said though if a company is willing to loan Salford money we are not in the perilous state some on here would have to believe.
Sorry but don't see it being the solution to JW's plea for investment.
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| I am trying to start my own business up,now what i need is somebody to give me at least 1.2 million per year so i can pay the people i intend to employ in my company.Now as you all know if you pay peanuts you end up with monkeys so i need that type of dough.Also i need sponsors to advertise their wares on my products,which will be the bees knees in my opinion,for x amount of dough.When my products are put on show,which will be between the months of feb and oct,hopefully,i say hopefully because my intended competitors will produce a better product than mine and our year will end in sept. Ah this might happen but i have a cunning plan,you see what i will do then will be to sell or let go my best products to these competitors of mine so that we get some more dough.Thus making us richer and them weaker. I know you are all mightily impressed with my plans but there is more.What i need now is for 7000 thousand of you mug.......er ,friends to turn up to our headquarters and give me 20 quid each,no questions asked,nudge nudge wink wink,and i promise i will not let you all know how we are doing,hows that for service.Please stop this stampede you guys because i have more,i am going to move our headquarters,yep,its a winner,how thus this grab yer?We will soon be moving our headquarters to a place where nobody knows in the middle of nowhere,which will make us the biggest company in our field all within 5YEARS.
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| Quote ="mitie mouse"I am trying to start my own business up,now what i need is somebody to give me at least 1.2 million per year so i can pay the people i intend to employ in my company.Now as you all know if you pay peanuts you end up with monkeys so i need that type of dough.Also i need sponsors to advertise their wares on my products,which will be the bees knees in my opinion,for x amount of dough.When my products are put on show,which will be between the months of feb and oct,hopefully,i say hopefully because my intended competitors will produce a better product than mine and our year will end in sept. Ah this might happen but i have a cunning plan,you see what i will do then will be to sell or let go my best products to these competitors of mine so that we get some more dough.Thus making us richer and them weaker. I know you are all mightily impressed with my plans but there is more.What i need now is for 7000 thousand of you mug.......er ,friends to turn up to our headquarters and give me 20 quid each,no questions asked,nudge nudge wink wink,and i promise i will not let you all know how we are doing,hows that for service.Please stop this stampede you guys because i have more,i am going to move our headquarters,yep,its a winner,how thus this grab yer?We will soon be moving our headquarters to a place where nobody knows in the middle of nowhere,which will make us the biggest company in our field all within 5YEARS.'"
Or you could copy the Bradford model and not pay anybody and get the RFL to pay your full salary cap.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"Or you could copy the Bradford model and not pay anybody and get the RFL to pay your full salary cap.
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Nope,i intend to be squeeky clean.And might i add to gain your confidence in me,i will not let or rent out our stadium to any competitor without them paying m..us a substantional amount of wonga.And i might add we will be bringing a brand new kiddies mascot out which they will adore,they will be pouring into see him,the duck,when they clap there little eyes on him.;even more dough,what can stop us??????
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| I think the chairman only wants investment,on his terms.He does not want anybody with new ideas,just their money.
what we want in my opinion is somebody to take over lock stock and barrel.I know there will be some on here who
don't agree,but I think the silent majority will.We live in hope.
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| Quote ="lancetodd"I think the chairman only wants investment,on his terms.He does not want anybody with new ideas,just their money.
what we want in my opinion is somebody to take over lock stock and barrel.I know there will be some on here who
don't agree,but I think the silent majority will.We live in hope.'"
Just because some supporters have respect for a man that’s given 30 years loyal service and invested a lot of money in the club doesn’t mean they wouldn’t like to see new investment and new direction under new ownership.
Lets hope something happens sooner than later to put an end to this b*ll*x of continually having a cowardly, anonymous go at the one person who’s given more to this club than anyone over the past three decades. What have you and the other anonymous knockers ever done for this club with your time and money in comparison? Please tell us I am all ears?
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| Quote ="theredshed"Just because some supporters have respect for a man that’s given 30 years loyal service and invested a lot of money in the club doesn’t mean they wouldn’t like to see new investment and new direction under new ownership.
Lets hope something happens sooner than later to put an end to this b*ll*x of continually having a cowardly, anonymous go at the one person who’s given more to this club than anyone over the past three decades. What have you and the other anonymous knockers ever done for this club with your time and money in comparison? Please tell us I am all ears?'"
100% Agree with your comments,some will have had the odd drink or taken a favour off the chairman and even patted him on the back or shook his hand,but have conveniently short memories.
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| according to the MEN there are 4 multi-millionaires living in Salford, the Done brothers are two, Ryan Giggs is the third so who is the 4th? perhaps they want to come forward and take over?
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| Quote ="Bigpev" so who is the 4th?'"
Does Jim Ramsbottom still live in the city?
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| Quote ="Bigpev"according to the MEN there are 4 multi-millionaires living in Salford, the Done brothers are two, Ryan Giggs is the third so who is the 4th? perhaps they want to come forward and take over?'"
Wilky?
I think that reports wrong (surprised?) if you think of the property prices down Leigh Road then surely there must be multiple multi millionaires living down there.
Jim Ramsbottom to my knowledge still lives on Lancaster Road and know he is interested in the club but doubt very much he'd be a major investor and certainly not look to buy the club.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Wilky?
I think that reports wrong (surprised?) if you think of the property prices down Leigh Road then surely there must be multiple multi millionaires living down there.
Jim Ramsbottom to my knowledge still lives on Lancaster Road and know he is interested in the club but doubt very much he'd be a major investor and certainly not look to buy the club.'"
the criteria ia having £19m in assetts
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| Quote ="Bigpev"according to the MEN there are 4 multi-millionaires living in Salford, the Done brothers are two, Ryan Giggs is the third so who is the 4th? perhaps they want to come forward and take over?'"
is it not Pete waterman?
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