What would yours be next year with our current squad?

1. Patten
2. Broughton
3. Gleeson
4. Nero
5. Williams
6. Holdsworth
7. Smith
8. Boyle
9. Godwin
10. James
11. McPherson
12. Anderson
13. Moon

14. Gledhill/Neal
15. Ashurst
16. Adamson
17. Sneyd

1. Patten
2. Broughton
3. Nero
4. Gleeson
5. Williams
6. Moon
7. Holdsworth
8. McPherson
9. Smith
10. Boyle
11. Anderson
12. Ashurst
13. Wild

14. Godwin
15. James
16. Jewitt
17. Neal

Don't know how we will be lining up next year but this is what I think of the current squad, need to bring in a few more players otherwise could be a long season.

I await the replies of a certain members on here telling me the young forwards will come good and Smith is SL level etc... well im sorry but after another season of lets face it im finding it hard to find positives.

Having Sneyd as back up if say Holdsworth gets injured is quite worrying, he may be young but he's not good enough. As is our pack.

I may sound like a miserable fart but i see it as being realistic.

1. Patten, Good in attack, woeful in defence.
2. Williams - Good
3. Gleeson - OK been to injury prone.
4. Nero - Average, never going to make any yards or create anything.
5. Broughton - Good
6. Noon - ?
7. Holdsworth - Good
8. Jewitt - Not good enough, has had 3/4 good games in 2 seasons.
9. Smith - Poor, Improved from first season but still not good enough for a SL top half side in my opinion.
10. Boyle - Done OK, but worrying when he is first choice.
11. Ashurst - Another young promising forward that is going to become great we will wait and see.
12. McPherson - ?
13. Wild - Average player has a good work rate.

14. Godwin - OK, Decent at going forward. Good in defence, Just your average SL hooker.

15. James - Meat head prop, could go well but then again could turn out to be another average forward at Salford who makes little yards. Couldn't get in crusaders squad last year, and worked the doors in the blue bell a few years back before he became full time, time will tell.

16. Adamson/Neal - Not good enough, despite there age.

17. Gledhill - Ill reserve judgement, but he couldn't get a game at Wakey no disrespect intended but if there prepared to let him go then he cant be that good.

Gibson - Wouldn't have him in the team, liability in defence.
Paleaaesina - Does about 10 minutes a game needs a few more salads before the season is upon us.
Sneyd - Not SL level, Decent kicking game that is all.
Anderson - Abysmal first season, surely he can only improve?
Sidlow - Not aggressive enough. For his size he should be making yards and smashing people around the field he doesn't.
Spencer - Never SL
Owen - Never SL
Davidson - Never Sl
Marriot - Never SL

Not a great deal of optimism there ORD.

What interests me more than basing judgement on a players previous season, is to see how the players react to MP's pre-season. Are they going to be fitter than previous seasons? How quick will they embrace a new coaches ideas, plays and systems? Will they gel as a team? Will they work harder for each other than before?

I realise that I can't summarise player for player with these things because I'm not Mystic Meg. There's little point dwelling on a previous seasons performance as it is not a great tool for predicting future success unless you're a top 4 side. It's more about seeing if our players can up their game as a team rather than dooming them before they've started.

And before the tired phrase of "The Club can do no wrong brigade" rears its weary head, I'd just like to state a little more positivity around here. After all, we're moving to our new stadium, new eager coach, and our youngest side for donkeys years. I see little point in dooming the Club before even pre-season has started.

yes you do



May I be the first to come on and say the likes of Owen / Davidson & Marriot may come good and I feel you're a bit harsh on them , May be right about spanners Lad though.

New signings, got to give them the benefit of doubt until they've had a run out in a reds shirt

BTW if we've signed Noon ' Peter ' , he'll be good for the Cabaret Night .

retained squad - time for Parish -Long to show their worth , you never know..

'have a little faith baby , have a little faith '


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Totally agree with THE ORIGINAL RED DEVIL. The pack gives me no confidence whatsoever.

1.Patten-Good link player
2.Williams-Average winger-if he breaks the line gets caught
3 Moon- Good reports
4 Nero- Not good enough played for every SL club now
5 Broughton- Good winger-Room for improvement too
6 Houldsworth-Good
7 Smith- Not SL for me but we have no one else
8 James - Adds a bit of aggression
9 Godwin- Poor More cleverer hookers around SL
10 Fat Feka-Poor Praying MP has trained him to death
11 Mcpherson-Good reports
12-Anderson-Poor was great at saints
13-Wilde-Average never gonna set the world alight
14-Boyle- Poor Not SL Prop
15-Gledhill-Give him a go got to be better than Jewitt
16-Ashurst-Give him a go got to be better than Sidlow
17-Gleeson-Poor Better defence than Gibson

I live in hope rather than faith

Ok, so we've a poor to very average squad for next year by the look of things. Well here's an idea, why don't we just throw the towel in now, turn off the lights, lock up and call it a day ?
Or, (and maybe I'm being super-optimistic here), perhaps we could give it a little time, get fully behind the club and see what happens ?
..and that is the best impersonation of Ex Salford Uni that you will ever get from me

well as somebody who hasnt watched the boys week in week out this season i dont feel that i have the authority to run the rule over everyone in the squad as much as i did in previous season

What i do know is

Williams isnt a average winger, he is class winger, just like Broughton has pace to burn and knows where the line is, but the different between him and jodie i feel he is a bit braver but i would like to know who was quicker over say 80m

Nero is a fantastic professional, a consistant 7/10 performer, solid in defence, busy in attack yes he is a bit old but he is very versitile, barring horrendus injury we will get another 18 months of him before his engine packs up im sure

Anderson, difficult one, has great hands, defence is all at sea at times, got better as the season went on, started injured hopefully with a full preseason he will give us a bit of xfactor we need.

Feka also improved as the season went on, im sure Mr Parish has had a little word in his ear about his general fitness and would you argue with him? i predict we will see a fitter Feka next season as he know this is his last chance at this level, weather he will become a baynes style recking ball prop forward remains to be seen.
In my eyes its a two way street salford need to play to his strenghts by having dummy runners around him to thin the defence out but he also needs to run in at different angles and get fitter so he can run it in more.

I personally think we are the following

1 hooker
2 big hairy hard props
1 punchy second row

and a Offseason where our players are coached

short, hopefully Matt is in Oz having a look round for players who fit the mold

As for all the negativity i cant see why, new stadium, new facilities, new coach, new begining its an exciting time to be a salford reds fan why dont we try to enjoy it

Who needs the Bard when you have brilliance like that, so need a a t shirt with that on.

1. Patten
2. Broughton
3. Nero
4. Gleeson
5. Williams
6. Moon
7. Holdsworth
8. McPherson
9. Godwin
10. Boyle
11. Ashurst
12. Anderson
13. Wild

14. Smith
15. Feka
16. Jewitt
17. Gledhill


It's clearly a squad that is crying out for a quality centre and prop at the very least. God help us if we get a few injuries.

So, are we all just ignoring this?

Like many of you, I'm dissolusioned of how a club with limited funding isn't recruiting world-class, proven internationals. The whole thing stinks of spending within our means.

When will they learn? Probably never. Useless shower of liquidation-fearing tea boys.
They couldn't run a multi-billion pound international company like the one I make tea for. Granted, that requires a workforce of thousands and the income of billions, but my comparison is a fair one. Bunch of dopes...

Do you work at being such a bell end or does it come naturally to you?

All the hard work is done for me here, I'm doing little more than pointing and laughing.

Tenants in a new stadium, last season's players not good enough and new signings promising little better. Hardly sets the blood racing does it?

The vast majority of us know that we are just there to make up the numbers and without major investment and much better results, our numbers will remain just a few.

But it's still SO SWEET following Salford!!!!!!! I'm looking forward to seeing what Matt can do to improve the players and I'm sure we'll still have one or two nights to remember winning against the odds. We may never make a Grand Final or Wembley.............but you never know, and that faint glimmer of hope is what keeps us going no doubt.

well written rooted red,i agree,to be able to walk back to my car with a smile on me kipper knowing we might of not won but we had a rite good go,not scurrying into the night hoping nobody spots the colours i wear,all i want is to see my team giving all they have got to the bitter end ,with that mindset the results will begin to turn our way,the lost fans will return,and you never know,wembley old trafford? dare to dream.

He has a very valid point, you are an utter toss pot.

I'll give ExSalfordUNI his due though, he's creative with his scorn. I can accept that as dark wit. Calling fellow fans a bell-end or a toss-pot is not really going to garner you any support even if you have a valid point.

I feel a little bit sad after reading this thread for some reason.

I'm not trying to garner support from anyone. Someone tries to post constructive criticism of the club or the way it operates and without fail ExSalfordUni exaggerates what they have put in a hilariously unfunny way. I'd call that a boring waste of time as opposed to creative.

I really could not give a monkeys what anyone on here thinks.

I know exactly what you mean.
Opinions are divided and emotions running high, yet we all crave the same result.
I can see both sides as I'm sure others can.
For years I've been following this club, hoping that the good times will return, whilst realistically sensing that another year of failure looms large.
People can only stomach so many false dawns, and will eventually call time.
'Original Red Devils seems to be losing faith, despite the fact that he is possibly some 25 years of torment behind me.
Ex Salf Uni is a WUM/P1ss Taker of the highest of order, and whilst I would hate to spend any time in his/her company for that reason, he/she is never far from the mark.
About a year I stated on here that as far as I could see this club is on the brink ..... It's make or break time, and whilst I truly hope we step up and at long last the fans have something to cheer wildly about, I honestly fear that we may actually never make the grade.
I do not wear red tinted speccies, I can clearly see the blatant clangers which the club offers up time and again, but I am certainly not any more capable/financially able than those in control, and as such I'll continue to roll with the punches.
Some Turkeyites do seem to have a superior attitude and others have a plain stupid one.
Let's pray for better times ahead at long, long last

For over 50yrs i have followed the reds,being dragged along as a young lad by my dad watching the likes of harry council,charlie bott etc,along came mr Snape,glory days,didnt need dragging anymore i flew there.Why?,Mr Snape bought quality players,a team you would die for now,and then what,a chairman who means well but as not got the money or the nous to take our club to the top,tarry is a joke,simms?god help us.I know its hard to get a marquee signing to come to us,but would you be itching to sign?Yes if it was my last chance saloon.I feel that in Matt Parrish saying it as it is we have a chance,we the fans as always,the board and our chairman, must,must back this man to the hilt,otherwise i feel its a lost cause.

he only asked for your starting line ups for next season...

NOT YOUR LIFE STORIES! haha

scrap the negative comments and look forward to next season.

In Matt we TRUST

Think everyone accepts that the new stadium is pretty much a last chance saloon for the club to get it right, however it is a new start for the fans as well, we can do a lot more than we think to help the club grow attendances etc.

This time last season peope we saying 'top 8' etc cos we had signed so called big name players. Didn't quite work out like that did it? Now everyone is complaining about a lack of signings meaning we will struggle next season. Who's to say it won't have the opposite effect. Big signings don't guarantee success, as we saw last season.

As for the sqaud, not sure why Davidson and Marriott are written off on here after one superleague apperance, unless anyone has been watching them regularly for the academy. Hopefully someone will show a bit of faith in Sneyd and give him 4-5 games although he will proabably have to wait for injuries. How many people have seen Gledhill play? James is not an ideal signing but I will wager that he goes better than Ste Nash does at Cas. Also think Adamson could go well under some decent coaching.

Am actually looking forward to next season. Much prefer watching us when we are the underdogs and being written off, rather than under a cloud of unrealistic expectations.