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| was apparently the attendance last night....gotta say it felt more like 5k plus but either way..still very poor.
I know we have been bad at times this year but our crowds are still a masive worry. look at other similar teams like wakey ....they av got an increase in crowds this yr depsite playing worse than us!!?
Are we missin a trik somewhere along the way?
Hope this staidum does the job increasing them crowds!!
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| perhaps Wakey get more away fans visiting, on the verge of a cup semi-final I would have thought that Leeds would have have brought more fans over, at least 1500 but only half that at most, i know we have to build our own crowds but again the game was only advertised to the regulars, marketing is poor and for once we gave a decent performance in the second half. Our last to home matches are againts clubs with p155 poor away following one because they are from the south of France the other perhaps they are on tags I don't know. So it is upto the marketing to not just marker one match a year (ie the last one) but all games.
I actually thought about 5k+ last night but perhaps the taxman count can in again.
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| I agree with that BigPev. I thought about 5k. what we expecting for catlans game then? no away fans but it would be awful if last game at willows only got 4-5 k. ......should be full!
the games/club events etc need to be marketed to 'non fans' not just on the clubs website!!
just open gates and let everyone in for the final game - you never know they maight come back to the new ground!!!
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| We should hire a succession of established sports marketing gurus. Oh wait...
We should fly-poster the city. Oh wait...
We should look to publish our games in local press. Oh wait...
We should use popular local radio stati... Oh wait...
Have you seen that huge screen at the Trafford Centre? Can't we just... Oh wait...
I've got it: A Reds-branded hot air balloon dropping vouchers like confetti over the city.
WHY HAVEN'T THE USELESS SHOWER OF 'STAFF' DONE THIS ALREADY!!? BOO. HISS.
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| Quote ="EX.SALF.UNI"We should hire a succession of established sports marketing gurus. Oh wait...
We should fly-poster the city. Oh wait...
We should look to publish our games in local press. Oh wait...
We should use popular local radio stati... Oh wait...
Have you seen that huge screen at the Trafford Centre? Can't we just... Oh wait...
I've got it: A Reds-branded hot air balloon dropping vouchers like confetti over the city.
WHY HAVEN'T THE USELESS SHOWER OF 'STAFF' DONE THIS ALREADY!!? BOO. HISS.'"
or we could win and play entertaining rugby, 4 years of dross have driven most people away.
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| Bigpev speaks the truth.
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| Since starting a new job a couple of weeks ago, I've met a few people who used to go and watch Salford. The main reasons they stopped going were that it's getting too expensive, and the poor rugby on display. I don't think ticket prices would matter too much though if we were playing well and winning on a regular basis.
I bet ranking the teams in order of average attendance wouldn't be too different from the actual league table. Apart from Bradford, but didn't they sell really cheap season tickets? Couldn't we do something similar?
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| Quote ="Bigpev"or we could win and play entertaining rugby, 4 years of dross have driven most people away.'"
It hasn't really though. Our crowds haven't changed significantly in the 10 years or so that I've been watching.
That's despite several marketing pushes and the very occasional winning streak.
New stadium, new start. If crowds do grow at Barton it will be an influx of new blood. I can't help but think the 3000 regulars are EVERYONE who gives a sh*t.
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| Quote ="EX.SALF.UNI"It hasn't really though. Our crowds haven't changed significantly in the 10 years or so that I've been watching.
That's despite several marketing pushes and the very occasional winning streak.
New stadium, new start. If crowds do grow at Barton it will be an influx of new blood. I can't help but think the 3000 regulars are EVERYONE who gives a sh*t.'"
sadly if thats true we may as well hand licence back now cos that wont be good enough. For What its worth...i thinnk theres 5-6 who are either hard core...or 'have been' fans but stopped goin. I guess the last game of the season will be interesting as youd think anyone whos been intesretd or is interested..would be at the final game at the willows
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| I personally only think there will be 4,500 last game of the season which is an embarrassment.
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| Just done a quick bit of research (not very scientific but......), taking the Leeds home match as my research model here are the stats which do not lie, but does show how consistent we are on the field against Leeds at the Willows.
2007
Sun 11th Feb Salford 26 Leeds 30 att 8072 pre McRae
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Fri 11th Sept Salford 24 Leeds 30 att 6101
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Sun 25th July Salford 22 Leeds 31 att 4651
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Fri 29th July Salford 22 Leeds 30 att 4024
there certainly is a pattern showing with attendances.
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| so of the 8000 in 2007 ...lets say 2000 from leeds.....that means to had approx 6k salford fans. so 2500 potential fans (who we know have had SOME interest) need getting back into games. Lets hope their tempted by last game of the season!!
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| Quote ="Bigpev"Just done a quick bit of research (not very scientific but......), taking the Leeds home match as my research model here are the stats which do not lie, but does show how consistent we are on the field against Leeds at the Willows.
2007
Sun 11th Feb Salford 26 Leeds 30 att 8072 pre McRae
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Fri 11th Sept Salford 24 Leeds 30 att 6101
2010
Sun 25th July Salford 22 Leeds 31 att 4651
2011
Fri 29th July Salford 22 Leeds 30 att 4024
there certainly is a pattern showing with attendances.'"
Halved in about 4 years
Least it shows we can get decent crowds though, albeit those figures are for against a big team.
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| Quote ="MotörRed"Halved in about 4 years
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It's not quite as simple as that - the 8k crowd was the first game of the season, following a season where we'd finished 5th and had supposedly strengthened the team (with new stars Dorn, Korkidas and Edmondson). Unfair to compare that to a late season game with nothing left to play for (albeit the last time a "big" club visits the Willows).
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| Which proves that if the team are successful, more will come through the turnstiles.
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| Quote ="RedZone1"Just the Scruffy fans that cant afford a season ticket'"
That's a lovely way to describe and think of people who aren't as well off financially as you are. What a wonderful human being you must be.
By the way, if what you're accusing the stewards of is actually happening (personally I've never seen it, but never mind) then why don't you write to the club about it? I'm sure they'd love to hear what's going on.
Without a successful side, we're not going to get bigger attendances. It's as simple as that, new ground or not.
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| From what I remember the crowds aren't that different from most years in the 80s and 90s
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| Quote ="RedUnderTheBed"From what I remember the crowds aren't that different from most years in the 80s and 90s'"
They were McRae's fault then too
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| Quote ="GT"That's a lovely way to describe and think of people who aren't as well off financially as you are. What a wonderful human being you must be.
By the way, if what you're accusing the stewards of is actually happening (personally I've never seen it, but never mind) then why don't you write to the club about it? I'm sure they'd love to hear what's going on.
Without a successful side, we're not going to get bigger attendances. It's as simple as that, new ground or not.'"
I've always wondered how this is any different to the people on here who brag about jibbing trains to away games or things like that?
To describe people who don't have a season ticket as scruffy is just idiotic, a friend of mine who due to family and work commitments doesn't have a season ticket I would suggest would be in the top 1% of earners in the crowd but by your rationale is scruffy??
Maybe we should a scruffy oiks section at the new ground? install the old style gutter in the floor urinals, no cover from the rain and as many roof supports to ruin thier view as possible.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"I've always wondered how this is any different to the people on here who brag about jibbing trains to away games or things like that?
To describe people who don't have a season ticket as scruffy is just idiotic, a friend of mine who due to family and work commitments doesn't have a season ticket I would suggest would be in the top 1% of earners in the crowd but [uby your rationale[/u is scruffy??
Maybe we should a scruffy oiks section at the new ground? install the old style gutter in the floor urinals, no cover from the rain and as many roof supports to ruin thier view as possible.'"
You seem to be replying to the wrong person there.
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| No I didn't aim the rant about the scruffry people at GT, I may detest him but I'd not level anything against him for another persons comments.
I just found it commical to describe people as scruffy for not being season ticket holders.
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| People will not pay to see rubbish,the directors can go on until they are blue in the face.But that fact will not change,
they are still going on about getting,more away fan,s next season,so If every team brings 4.000 with them and 4.000
of us, they have got the break even figure.In my opinion the first marketing mistake they will make,is If we play on Friday
night,that will stop people coming over the M62.
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| Wakefield have a tv advert on itv Yorkshire. That might be a reason why they have a bigger home crowd too.
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| Quote ="lukicj"Wakefield have a tv advert on itv Yorkshire. That might be a reason why they have a bigger home crowd too.'"
We cannot put an advert,in the Advertiser.
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