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| When if ever are the club going to address Shaun McRae's after match outburst and the mockery of Salford City Red's. This Is absolutely disgusting and I am seriously considering sending JW this dialogue for his attention. Here it is again in full (word for word!)
[u=#BF40BFI'm not bothered what people..I don't care what people say or what they think!, I don't care what people say or think about the club, I don't care what people say or think about me.[/u
What I do, is I know this is my 16th year as a head coach, so I don't want people telling me how this how this game should be played, and how things..how things should work!
I know how they should work.. errrmm but ya know, theres allot of people don't understand the game, and they don't understand the mechanisms or what it takes to get on the field or being on the field, yet av got allot of people that seem to have plenty of advice for ya.
I understand the role of the media I understand the ya know, what what... i'm not having ago at anyone here I'm simply saying, that me..me personally, [u=#00BF00i'm a i'm about the only person in this organisation thats actually sat back and let everyone else make the comments an think about it an say... hang on you may not be quite right there! [/uyou need to sit back a-bit, and be a bit more caustios an thats all Ive tried to do, Ive tried to play it down a bit about new signings.
Everyone gets really really excited and expect so much so early, but ya know from a personal point of view.. [u=#00BFFFno i've i've i know i know we would have liked start better today, I know were we'd like to be ya know at the end of the season but its ya know ..
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[u=#FF4000This moment has now GONE... its like most things in life its just GONE its FINISHED[/u
[u=#BF40BFThats right Shaun. You don't care and your not bothered.. and trust me It shows pal. It shows in your body language, it shows on the pitch, and most of all it shows on the scoreboard. How can any manager in any sport in any league come out with that and not at the very least be suspended[/u
[u=#00BF00Yes Shaun, you know why, because you have no belief in your own talent (not that you have any) you know full well you cant coach and you've been clever in sitting back and not passing comment on the new signings. A child could decipher that from your outburst. [/u
[u=#00BFFFNo Shaun, we don't know, please explain. Explain how you manage to turn talented individuals into a disjoined unenthusiastic team ? How you struggle to get a team to play the basics of Rugby League. How you have yet to accept responsibility for any one of our many drumming's and admit your tactics or coaching skills don't work.
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[u=#FF4000Yes its GONE Shaun, Yes its FINISHED... Like all our ridiculous performances its gone, yet still after so many you fail to address any of the team's problems. Why? because you cant, you don't know how to, and most probably because you don't care. Yes Shaun its GONE like you should have GONE a long time ago, and yes it's FINISHED.. FINISHED like you should be after your disrespectful and tarnishing outburst.[/u
[u[size=200MCRAE OUT NOW.[/size[/u
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Couldn't agree more. At this moment in time Malc as cover would be sufficient and more effective than McRae, they would respect his game plan and order's more so, and I think we'd get a similar response to when Karl was sacked (beating Huddersfield 14-12 at home with Hodgson and Wilshire linking up to score a full length try)
I remember Mal on Sky after the game apologising to Karl saying it wasn't his fault and the players were to blame. I think that shows the level of respect they had for him. I couldn't see the same happening if McRae got the boot could you ?
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| Rather than booing if we are on the end of a hiding on Friday, I suggest a rousing rendition of Love Salford/Hate Mcrae instead.
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| Very good post but i hate to say it i can not see john wilkinson sacking mcrae even though its what we all want. i do agree that we should chant mcrae out but agin will it go on deaf hears. I would bring brian noble in if we could afford him.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Rather than booing if we are on the end of a hiding on Friday, I suggest a rousing rendition of Love Salford/Hate Mcrae instead.
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| Quote ="the wizz kid"Very good post but i hate to say it i can not see john wilkinson sacking mcrae even though its what we all want. i do agree that we should chant mcrae out
but agin will it go on deaf hears. I would bring brian noble in if we could afford him.'"
Your Chairman would be better clearing the loans the club has already before thinking about spending money the club ain't got for another coach.
Worry not whilst your in super douper league your teflon coated,just be thankful it's a closed shop competition.
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| Quote ="Marshy1"Your Chairman would be better clearing the loans the club has already before thinking about spending money the club ain't got for another coach.
Worry not whilst your in super douper league your teflon coated,just be thankful it's a closed shop competition.'"
Good point. It's still heartbreaking however. Like watching your car/pride and joy Being banged about and abused to an inch of it's life.
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| Could Alker be ready to step in ?
Up his salary slightly for the extra responsibility... and pay the big fella off what we would have paid him anyway... One thing for sure is that he couldn't do a worse job, so we would surely be better off... plus... there is no way on this earth that Alker would disrespect our club. He would command the respect of the players without question.
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| No not Alker. Although he has been a great servant to Salford he's not ready yet. Can you imagine it will be mad Monday every week. A more experienced coach i think.
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| I find it odd that anyone would put Malc's name forward right now when he's currently part of the coaching setup and already has an influence on the teams performance. Give him more time to adjust to coaching and to learn his trade.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"Could Alker be ready to step in ?'"
Wondered how long it would take!!
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| Quote ="The King Of Birchwood"Wondered how long it would take!!
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I'm not suggesting that this would be my preffered choice... just throwing it in as an option for discussion. People are talking about not being able to get rid of McRae due to financial restrictions... When we have an 'option' that wouldn't cost the club the earth... and certainly be a better option for both us and the players than what we have right now.
You have to look at what's available right now for the club.
Noble ?
At Bradford and Wigan he had good players to work with.... He wasn't really a success at Crusaders due to not having as much to work with. Perhaps the Crusaders job tripped him up a little and found him out. Could he bring more to the dressing room at minimal cost.
Millward ?
I think he's burnt his bridges with the whole Assistant coach farce.
Anybody else ?
What we have to remember here is that this is the last season at this ground... and I find it hard to believe that McRae is the coach that is going to take us out of it... I find it insulting to all that have played here and watched here that we have a man with such a lack of loyalty taking us away from our home.
If you were on your death bed... would you want a stranger there talking to you with no emotion... or somebody who loved you and respected you ?
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| I'd rather they had the Genius step up in a caretaker role rather than Alker. Maybe he'd do it if they promised him his youth role back at the end of the season. The club could then take their time and spend he year getting together what would hopefully be a good portfolio of potential coaches for the job.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"Noble ?
At Bradford and Wigan he had good players to work with.... He wasn't really a success at Crusaders due to not having as much to work with. Perhaps the Crusaders job tripped him up a little and found him out. Could he bring more to the dressing room at minimal cost.'"
I'd say he'd have a lot more to work with at Salford this year than he had at Crusaders last. I think it's very harsh to say he wasn't a success given that he took them to the playoffs the year after finishing 14th in the competition.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"Noble?At Bradford and Wigan he had good players to work with.... He wasn't really a success at Crusaders due to not having as much to work with. Perhaps the Crusaders job tripped him up a little and found him out. Could he bring more to the dressing room at minimal cost.'"
I'd say he was very successful at Crusaders. He took a team expected to come bottom to the playoffs. Thing is though, they clearly overspent through the year. He did quite well at Wigan but I suspect their supporters would tell you this is the club where he underwhelmed the most.
Quote ="LoyalFan"Anybody else ?'"
Kear? Wouldn't surprise me if he jumped ship with the rest of the rats.
Lam? Part of Wayne Bennett's coaching team.
Jowitt? A Harrisonesque choice but did well to keep Dewsbury up in a tough Championship division last year.
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| Please,Please No to Alker.
He is part of the coaching set up now and a fat lot of god it has done so far.
We need to get rid of the losing mentality in the club and bring in a fresh face who is keen to impress.
Bradford,Wigan,Saints, Crusaders,Harlequins have all done it and we are still stuck with a Dinosaur and a old boys network which just does not work.
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| As posted already, think Alan Hunte could do a great job for us, stepping into the role if Mcrea went, think he could deliver for us, he has massive respect for the club.
Another option, what about trying to entice John Cartright over here, think he could be immense for us & take us into the new stadium. I know he is doing well at Goldcoast, but he may relish coming over to take over & guide us to where we want to be.
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| both excellent suggestions - in particular I'd love to see John Cartwright back at Salford, one of my favourite Aussie imports as a player, even though we got him well to the end of his career
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| I've been saying it for ages, Cartwright would be my dream choice for coach and his contract at Gold Coast is up at the end of the season (having said that so are Des Hasler (Sea Eagles), Ivan Cleary (Warriors), Shane Flanagan (Sharks), Wayne Bennett (Dragons), Matthew Elliott (Panthers), Rick Stone (Knights), John Lang (Rabbitohs),Tim Sheens (Tigers)), but just a few things,
One: John will probably be offered new deal at the Titans or another NRL will snap him up, he's been doing a great job.
Two: Could we even afford him?
Three: Let's face it he would only come at the end of his current contract, now therein lies the problem for me, I see no point having a temporary coach for this season and then chaging again in the winter, however if he is tempted I'm sure that view could change!
How about Kevin Ashcroft, Alex Murphy or Maurice Bamford?
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| Could we entice Stevo away from sky?
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| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"Another option, what about trying to entice John Cartright over here, think he could be immense for us & take us into the new stadium. I know he is doing well at Goldcoast, but he may relish coming over to take over & guide us to where we want to be.'"
Quote ="King of the Shed" Cartwright would be my dream choice for coach and his contract at Gold Coast is up at the end of the season'"
Pie in the sky peeps. He signed a five-year deal with the Titans yesterday. We'd only have a chance of getting assistants or those out of work.
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"=#FF0000Could Alker be ready to step in ?
Up his salary slightly for the extra responsibility... and pay the big fella off what we would have paid him anyway... One thing for sure is that he couldn't do a worse job, so we would surely be better off... plus... there is no way on this earth that Alker would disrespect our club. He would command the respect of the players without question.'"
In a word no, sorry but I for one doubt Alker will ever be a Super League head coach, rather someone who carves out a brilliant career as a 2nd in command. No for me if we're going down the new younger coach road I'd look at Crompton.
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| As someone else has said Kear wouldn't be a bad bet now would Noble.
Can anyone really see the post being anything other than a temporary measure until the end of the season when hopefully as I've wished for before we get a big name Aussie in to take us into a new era.
Is Stankovich (or however you spell it) worth looking at?
Sod it push the boat out and get Sean Edwards back in RL, get the feeling the first RL team he coaches will be unbeatable.
Found it odd that Betts went to Widnes unless they have already been tipped off that they are the new SL franchise, if not maybe one of Salford's brightest sons would be a good call.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Sod it push the boat out and get Sean Edwards back in RL, get the feeling the first RL team he coaches will be unbeatable.'"
No chance. His stock is too high in a much higher profile sport.
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