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| How can the club be charging some much for a 440mL can of Carlsberg!!!
Serve some good beer on draught or drop the price for a snide can of beer!!
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| It's not our fault.
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| No one is forcing you to buy it.
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| Quote ="shizonamy"How can the club be charging some much for a 440mL can of Carlsberg!!!
Serve some good beer on draught or drop the price for a snide can of beer!!'"
I agree woudln't pay 25p for that green canned swill
not when they could be selling these [url=http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/acatalog/Beers_of_Europe__Joseph_Holt_415.htmlbeers of europe[/url for these at the new place
there's a few Local boozers 5 minutes from the ground for the more discerning , or the Willows Tavern , Willows Fans bar , Conny Club, Chandos even etc TBH pretty well catered for .
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| I was charged £4 for a pint of Carling at Craven Cottage this season.
Carling is horrid, but this was a bad pint even by those standards
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| I'm sure the majority of fans attending any sporting/music event consider the price of refreshments and such OTT to say the least. And rightly so.
To expect Joe Public to pay so much for standard fare is in essence, blatant robbery.
However, there is little point bleating on a forum about it. As previously mentioned, nobody is twisting your arm up your back, so either 'fill your boots' and be happy or just don't fall for it. Most people choose the latter.
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"To expect Joe Public to pay so much for standard fare is in essence, blatant robbery.
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To be honest, I wouldn't be too upset at being overcharged for standard fare. The problem is that at most venues you get overcharged for blatantly sub-standard fare. You can't get much worse than Carlsberg in a can.
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| Whilst there's plenty of time to have a drink before and after the game it amazes me somewhat that people feel the need to drink throughout the game itself? I personally go to watch 80 mins of RL without the need for a drink or even trips to the loo. I see people coming and going in and out of the shed for the duration of the game, mainly the same people and wonder what they bothered turning up for as they miss most of the action.
However on the point of the price of the beer, why not just nip to Morrisons or the off licence before the game, wear a big coat and fill your boots with as many cans as you can carry? Job done!
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| Have heard that we are charging £3 per can for Swinton home games.
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| The point I am trying to make really is how much more could be made if they sold a good selection of beers like Erdinger or Warsteiner, £3 wouldn't be too bad if it was that.
And for those who are saying just don't buy, well it's less money in the Willows coffers, they should do the 2 pint pots like at HJ stadium!!!
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| Quote ="shizonamy"The point I am trying to make really is how much more could be made if they sold a good selection of beers like Erdinger or Warsteiner, £3 wouldn't be too bad if it was that.'"
The club is tied in with Carlsberg-Tetley, I guess. Thus ruling this out.
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| Can you not get a pint in the willows before thr game anymore. When I came yo watch you lot against Haven the other year you could get a pint of Stella.
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| £2.50 per can is scandelous to say the least.....saying that tho, we do pay £3.20 for a pint of pi$$ water at the kc......now thats a scandel...
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"£2.50 per can is scandelous to say the least.....saying that tho, we do pay £3.20 for a pint of pi$$ water at the kc......now thats a scandel...'"
Everything's a bit more expensive at the KC from what I can remember. Don't know how you all afford it.
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| I think beer pricing has become totally distorted due to the shear volume supermarkets sell. I remember having to pay about £4.50 at an off-license for 4 cans of lager 25 years ago. A friend of mine in the industry tells me the supermarkets absolutely screw their profit margins to the floor. He told me there is no negotiation, the buyer names his cost and says take the business or walk away. It's all about extremely high volume and low margin to the supermarket chains.
Supermarkets also don't have anywhere near the same running costs as a pub on a litre for litre or pint for pint basis. I think most people realise this and accept that pubs need to make more profit to cover their costs. As bizzare as it sounds independent drinking establishments could actually buy cans and bottles much cheaper from the supermarket than directly from the brewery. (But can't because their contract with the brewery would be terminated if they got caught) And they need the brewery for the draft beers and spirits.
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| Quote ="theredshed"I think beer pricing has become totally distorted due to the shear volume supermarkets sell. I remember having to pay about £4.50 at an off-license for 4 cans of lager 25 years ago.
A friend of mine in the industry tells me the supermarkets absolutely screw their profit margins to the floor. He told me there is no negotiation, the buyer names his cost and says take the business or walk away. It's all about extremely high volume and low margin to the supermarket chains.
Supermarkets also don't have anywhere near the same running costs as a pub on a litre for litre or pint for pint basis. I think most people realise this and accept that pubs need to make more profit to cover their costs. As bizzare as it sounds independent drinking establishments could actually buy cans and bottles much cheaper from the supermarket than directly from the brewery. (But can't because their contract with the brewery would be terminated if they did) And they need the brewery for the draft beers and spirits.'"
Near perfect analsysis there. My only point would be to emphasise that in many cases, pubs are owned by 'pub companies' and not breweries although I recognise this is pure pedantry on my part as the cause and effect is just the same. (That's not to say that the brave aren't capable of buying the odd barrel or two from external 'white van man' suppliers in exchange for an accounting headache and improved profit margin.)
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| "the cause and effect is just the same"
I know from where you are coming but several pub companies operate in the same bullying fashion as supermarkets.
Well you can drink fizz that only is palatable when it is so cold your taste buds are handicapped, or the stuff that allows proper appreciation of a heritage and excellence from craftsmen and women.
Bazens.
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| Quote ="shizonamy"How can the club be charging some much for a 440mL can of Carlsberg!!!
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(1)Probably due to the fact that some people will pay that price.
(2)The Chairman/Club need to raise money to fund the playing side etc.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red""the cause and effect is just the same"
I know from where you are coming but several pub companies operate in the same bullying fashion as supermarkets.
Well you can drink fizz that only is palatable when it is so cold your taste buds are handicapped, or the stuff that allows proper appreciation of a heritage and excellence from craftsmen and women.
Bazens.'"
I was referring to independent club/pub licensed establishments like the Willows rather than pub chains.
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| I'm saying something here which will hopefully stimulate its own separate topic.
There's a virtual dearth of drinking establishments near the new ground. If one does appear in the future, it's most likely to be a 'Brewers Fayre' type, I would suggest. Nothing wrong with these places, they certainly are OK in the right location - half decent grub without ripping you off, sometimes even cask beer, but again, nothing to get excited about!
So, is there anybody out there, group and/or individual, with the energy, expertise, financial backing, etc. to remedy the situation?
I'd back the right venture with finance (not a huge amount though I'm afraid). I'd imagine that only the Peel Green area would be viable, as it's (just about) walkable from there. Any more ideas? We've got around 12 months, remember - let's have some decent, drinkable beers/ciders available....
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| Quote ="crowngreenbowler"I'm saying something here which will hopefully stimulate its own separate topic.
There's a virtual dearth of drinking establishments near the new ground. If one does appear in the future, it's most likely to be a 'Brewers Fayre' type, I would suggest. Nothing wrong with these places, they certainly are OK in the right location - half decent grub without ripping you off, sometimes even cask beer, but again, nothing to get excited about!
So, is there anybody out there, group and/or individual, with the energy, expertise, financial backing, etc. to remedy the situation?
I'd back the right venture with finance (not a huge amount though I'm afraid). I'd imagine that only the Peel Green area would be viable, as it's (just about) walkable from there. Any more ideas? We've got around 12 months, remember - let's have some decent, drinkable beers/ciders available....'"
There has been various chats over the past, what 10 year, regarding a boozer near the ground, we've come up with a few grandiose ideas but it all comes down to finance and none of us involved have anywhere near the backing to make this happen, it's worse now with the economic climate, boozers shutting down at a rate of 5k a week I've read and besides who wants to run a pub in Salford, you'd have to be mad these days. Oh and it'd be dead most of the year and only really match days would make any money.
Now if Sir Joseph Holt (yes I know he’s dead) was interested in opening a pub near the ground that would be most satisfactory!
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| Quote ="crowngreenbowler"I'm saying something here which will hopefully stimulate its own separate topic.
There's a virtual dearth of drinking establishments near the new ground. If one does appear in the future, it's most likely to be a 'Brewers Fayre' type, I would suggest. Nothing wrong with these places, they certainly are OK in the right location - half decent grub without ripping you off, sometimes even cask beer, but again, nothing to get excited about!
So, is there anybody out there, group and/or individual, with the energy, expertise, financial backing, etc. to remedy the situation?
I'd back the right venture with finance (not a huge amount though I'm afraid). I'd imagine that only the Peel Green area would be viable, as it's (just about) walkable from there. Any more ideas? We've got around 12 months, remember - let's have some decent, drinkable beers/ciders available....'"
I'm sure the pub/hotel near Barton Aerodrome on the A57 was up for sale recently? This could be ideally placed for the new development and Port Salford?
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| Quote ="theredshed"I'm sure the pub/hotel near Barton Aerodrome on the A57 was up for sale recently? This could be ideally placed for the new development and Port Salford?'"
Which one, The Unicorn in Peel Green?
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| Sometime in the next couple of months, I'm hoping to talk to someone involved in The Star Inn & Bazens Brewery cooperative venture. That should give us some insights. A pipe dream? Probably; but insights nonetheless.
If anyone knows The Star Inn lot or is on the committee, don't be shy in getting in touch!
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| Quote ="king of the shed"Which one, The Unicorn in Peel Green?'"
Think he means The Ellesmere KOTS. Would be an ideal spot for pre/post match boozing. Handy for young offenders at Barton Moss as well
Re: The Star Inn, are we talking the tiny little boozer next to The Horseshoe in Higher Broughton? I lived 50 yards from there until I was 16 but moved out before I got to sample my first (legal) pint!
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