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| 14-6 down, and the boos are ringing out at the willows.
Don't think it's just the players that need to have a look at themselves.
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| It depends on what you expect. Certainly, getting thumped by the "weakest" team in SL is very worrying- although in my opinion NOT unexpected.
The blind support vs. critical support debate has been done to death previously. As I have stated previously loyalty is a two way street and I for one am currently very disappointed with the club. There is a lack of direction (on/off the field) and no meaningful communication.
What we have is the usual whinge fest vs the shut the f8ck up brigade. For once it would be nice if we and the club all pulled in the same direction. Some evidence of planning and communication would help this happen.
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| Not only poor on the pitch, but i arrived early to watch a rerun of a past match and some entertainment, what do we get nothing and no information as to why.
I think jw has too many amateurs around him and these are pulling the club the wrong way, i would get some advice from Sale about any pre and after match club entertainment because they must be doing something to get the people in.
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| Quote ="nnn"Some evidence of planning and communication would help this happen.'"
Such as?
I'm not having a go here, I'm genuinely interested. Perhaps your ideas are something we can broach to the club.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"14-6 down, and the boos are ringing out at the willows.
Don't think it's just the players that need to have a look at themselves.'"
Indeed.
I had 4 others with me (3 who have been before but a not yet complete converts, 1 who had never been).
They weren't put off by the quality of the RL, or by the Salford performance, but they were significantly less than impressed by the constant booing and general lack of atmosphere (especially after I'd harped on about how much better RL fans were than football fans )
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| and another thing why didnt they use the time before the game to announce to every one that the stadium will start in march, some fans may not have heard this....
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"and general lack of atmosphere (especially after I'd harped on about how much better RL fans were than football fans
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I haven't been to any of the games so far this year but if they've been anything like last year you can hardly expect the place to be rocking.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"14-6 down, and the boos are ringing out at the willows.
Don't think it's just the players that need to have a look at themselves.'"
Why not the boo's were for the same dumb defence that they could have looked at and sorted out a few minutes earlier, the boo's IMO weren't necessarily aimed at how bad in general the team are, (nobody really knew at that point?). Then to concede further tries to the exact same play time and time again I think the boo's were appropriate. FWIW I dont blame any of the players for the defeat as they simply aren't good enough - Crusaders could have put 50 on us! I do blame lack of organisation, go forward and effort, a tiny glimpse of that and the result could have been different. I believe that's the coaches/managers job to sort that out and its obvious they're not up to it, I think the boo's at the end of the game were aimed in that direction of disappointment rather than the team itself.
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| Quote ="The Black Cat"Why not
the boo's were for the same dumb defence that they could have looked at and sorted out a few minutes earlier, the boo's IMO weren't necessarily aimed at how bad in general the team are, (nobody really knew at that point?). Then to concede further tries to the exact same play time and time again I think the boo's were appropriate. FWIW I dont blame any of the players for the defeat as they simply aren't good enough - Crusaders could have put 50 on us! I do blame lack of organisation, go forward and effort, a tiny glimpse of that and the result could have been different. I believe that's the coaches/managers job to sort that out and its obvious they're not up to it, I think the boo's at the end of the game were aimed in that direction of disappointment rather than the team itself.'"
Do you think the new and/or young players (Ratchford, McGillvray, Smith, Holdsworth et al) saw it that way??
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Do you think the new and/or young players (Ratchford, McGillvray, Smith, Holdsworth et al) saw it that way??'"
No, thats why I've tried to explain it on here along with numerous posts that blame McRae and not the team. Hope they read it.
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| The atmosphere in the shed on Friday was eerily similar to the Reebok for the last two years, some of the comments from a group stood behind me were really unpleasant even in the heat of the moment.
I really hope the booing stops because it does little except sour the match day experience IMO.
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| Quote ="The Black Cat"Why not
the boo's were for the same dumb defence that they could have looked at and sorted out a few minutes earlier, the boo's IMO weren't necessarily aimed at how bad in general the team are, (nobody really knew at that point?). Then to concede further tries to the exact same play time and time again I think the boo's were appropriate. FWIW I dont blame any of the players for the defeat as they simply aren't good enough - Crusaders could have put 50 on us! I do blame lack of organisation, go forward and effort, a tiny glimpse of that and the result could have been different. I believe that's the coaches/managers job to sort that out and its obvious they're not up to it, I think the boo's at the end of the game were aimed in that direction of disappointment rather than the team itself.'"
Can understand the booing at the end however when you are 8 points down with 65 mins to play I don't think it is called for. Even the reception at half time was dire despite being just 2 points behind.
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| The booing is wrong, plain and simple. Out of interest do any of the group that inhabit the central area of the shed post on here? A lot of the embarassing fans seem to have taken over that area and most of the nagative cr*p comes from that direction.
I've stood in the middle of the shed for 20 years and find it's the best place to watch the game. However, with the I have to listen to every week from some of the idiots near me I am seruiously considering moving elsewhere in the ground.
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim"Out of interest do any of the group that inhabit the central area of the shed post on here?'"
Plenty of us.
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim"Out of interest do any of the group that inhabit the central area of the shed post on here?'"
I suspect I know where you mean but you may have to be a bit more specific as that coud be anywhere between the 30m lines.
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim" Out of interest do any of the group that inhabit the central area of the shed post on here? '"
Top middle
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| I sometimes go in the middle but a few of them do my head in. There not interested in the game, just the beer
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| Quote ="corvospace"I sometimes go in the middle but a few of them do my head in. There not interested in the game, just the beer'"
The beers just as poor as the team normally are too
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| i cant see why everyone is moanin
The fans lift the team or the team lift the fans, if both need lifting which is where we are then you get stuck in a spiral which without a massive change will continue.
What makes it worse with our young players this will probably hampen their growth and never probably recover.
Half time 2 points behind if the shed was even half bouncin we'd have kicked on and won it, instead they scored twice (one dodgy forward pass but we'll let that one go as well so thats......... dodgy decitions against 2 dodgy decitions for Nil in two games) and us fans just turned on each other which hurt more than the defeat itself.
Seriously considering not goin to leeds, as its my turn to drive i might go and stay in the pub cant see the point in paying to watch a game when both halfs of the whole believe already we are beaten
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| It was the worst Salford performance ive ever seen, apart from holdsworth, not a single player looked interested, our pack got battered, and the backs were nothing short of woeful we have had some over the years at the Willows but Friday evening summed it up, how are we ever going to attract new fans with shows like that, i fully understand why people don't turn up anymore after so much promising the Majority of fans have had enough and i for one cant blame them. How can you defend that abysmal effort on Friday evening IMO they did deserve everything they got. I know people this year who are missing there first game in years simply because they can not be d to waste there hard earned money on that, I was embarrassed today in work people coming up to me asking me how they went on Friday that shouldn't be the case. As a Salford fan i am use to loosing but Fridays game was a insult to us fans.
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim"The booing is wrong, plain and simple. Out of interest do any of the group that inhabit the central area of the shed post on here? A lot of the embarassing fans seem to have taken over that area and most of the nagative cr*p comes from that direction.
I've stood in the middle of the shed for 20 years and find it's the best place to watch the game. However, with the poop I have to listen to every week from some of the idiots near me I am seruiously considering moving elsewhere in the ground.'"
I STAND IN THE MIDDLE WITH MY BROTHER AND WEVE BEEN GOING FOR YEARS. THERE ARE SOME IDIOTS WHO STAND NEXT TO US WHO ACT LIKE D ICKS BUT ITS UNFAIR THAT YOU CALL US BOTH EMBARRASING FANS AS ITS ONLY 4 OR 5 OF THEM THAT ACT THAT WAY. WEVE BEEN GOING FOR YEARS AND LOVE THE CLUB AND ARENT GOING TO LET A LOAD OF P-SS HEADS RUIN IT FOR US.
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| Quote ="corvospace"I STAND IN THE MIDDLE WITH MY BROTHER AND WEVE BEEN GOING FOR YEARS. THERE ARE SOME IDIOTS WHO STAND NEXT TO US WHO ACT LIKE D ICKS BUT ITS UNFAIR THAT YOU CALL US BOTH EMBARRASING FANS AS ITS ONLY 4 OR 5 OF THEM THAT ACT THAT WAY. WEVE BEEN GOING FOR YEARS AND LOVE THE CLUB AND ARENT GOING TO LET A LOAD OF P-SS HEADS RUIN IT FOR US.'"
Sorry CS, didn't want to tar all the shed dwellers with the same brush it's just that the majority of the b0ll0cks that comes from the shed is from a centrally located group (around half way up). All I can add is that a couple of the group are quite vocal "ladies"
Iain/Chico/Adamjk - As above. No offence intended.
I know fans are disillusioned, mysellf included, but some of the comments were uncalled for.
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| Quote ="corvospace"I STAND IN THE MIDDLE WITH MY BROTHER AND WEVE BEEN GOING FOR YEARS. THERE ARE SOME IDIOTS WHO STAND NEXT TO US WHO ACT LIKE D ICKS BUT ITS UNFAIR THAT YOU CALL US BOTH EMBARRASING FANS AS ITS ONLY 4 OR 5 OF THEM THAT ACT THAT WAY. WEVE BEEN GOING FOR YEARS AND LOVE THE CLUB AND ARENT GOING TO LET A LOAD OF P-SS HEADS RUIN IT FOR US.'"
Wind your neck in mate.
SalfordSlim is right, didn't call you or your brother anything and there are far more than 4 or 5 idiots in that area of the Shed.
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim"Sorry CS, didn't want to tar all the shed dwellers with the same brush it's just that the majority of the b0ll0cks that comes from the shed is from a centrally located group (around half way up). All I can add is that a couple of the group are quite vocal "ladies"
Iain/Chico/Adamjk - As above. No offence intended.
I know fans are disillusioned, mysellf included, but some of the comments were uncalled for.'"
Yeah I agree, if I sounded as tho as was bein funny I didnt mean to mate, I know a few of them have been barred from a few away games, I think they should be barred completely tbh
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| Quote ="SalfordSlim"Iain/Chico/Adamjk - As above. No offence intended.'"
None taken.
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