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| MONDAY 3/8/09
MANCHESTER EVENING NEWS.....
[url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby_league/READ HERE[/url
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| Lazy journalism.
We have all know this for months.
If he had said "new signings on the way" then I might be interested.
A player leaving due to not being happy with where he plays is another warning to McRae.
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| "Looking for a scrum half if Myler goes"
Does this mean that Smith/Ratchford isn't the expected half back pairing or are we looking for backup?
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| Quote ="Iain""Looking for a scrum half if Myler goes"
Does this mean that Smith/Ratchford isn't the expected half back pairing or are we looking for backup?'"
We better had be looking for better than Smith if we generate a rake of money from the sale of Myler.
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| needs to happen and expected it really(except myler and turner). Would have been disapointed if it didnt. Thnk some people wanted it to happen at the start of this season which was never gonna happed after spending a season in nl1
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| Perhaps Smith could be Paul's replacement.
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| Quote ="Chico"Perhaps Smith could be Paul's replacement.'"
Would be the best move IMHO.
Why does the coaching team not try it out for the remaining games.
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| ![FRUSTRATED icon_frustrated.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_frustrated.gif) Seriously smith at hooker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![FRUSTRATED icon_frustrated.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_frustrated.gif)
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| Quote ="Captain Planet"icon_frustrated.gif Seriously smith at hooker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Seriously Smith at stand-off!
Seriously Smith at centre!
Where does it end?
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| Quote ="Chico"Seriously Smith at stand-off!
Seriously Smith at centre!
Where does it end?'"
Hopefully when they show him the door
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| With nowt to play for there is NO point at all playing players who are leaving. Put the kids in now Shaun - aabsolutely nothing to lose.
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| Quote ="Chico"Seriously Smith at stand-off!
Seriously Smith at centre!
:2v815n40Where does it end?'"
when he's back in NZ ![PRAY icon_razz.gifRAY:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_pray.gif)
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| Another MEN exclusive along the lines of "Christmas day falls on 25th December, Shock"
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| Quote ="Bigpev"Another MEN exclusive along the lines of "Christmas day falls on 25th December, Shock"'"
But if the alternative is no RL news in the paper then I suppose we take this. Is it a journalist's responsibility to find stories, or the club's to put stories out there?
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| Quote ="Iain"But if the alternative is no RL news in the paper then I suppose we take this. Is it a journalist's responsibility to find stories, or the club's to put stories out there?'"
Indeed. Barker is always keen to put his name at the top of reports which appear to have been directly lifted off here, so why don't the club take advantage of this apparent laziness, and shove a press release in his face 5 times a week?
I'm delighted that the MEN are willing to run RL stories on a regular basis, when they have 2 big Premier League sides and several other professional sports to report on within their catchment area.
However, I am disappointed by the poor quality of those reports. Why can't Salford improve the quality by doing Barker's work for him? As much as he loves to blame other people for the inaccuracies in his reports, if the club were to email him a press release and accompanying photo (of the right player?!) surely the reports would be better, more relevant and hence more interesting.
That might even persuade me to buy the MEN again ... as would sacking Barker.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"With nowt to play for there is NO point at all playing players who are leaving. Put the kids in now Shaun - aabsolutely nothing to lose.'"
Who are 'the kids' that you want to put in?
As for 'nothing to lose' isn't one of the criteria for new franchises about quality on the field?
Therefore, jeopardising our league position, win ratio and/or points difference, for the sake of throwing in a bunch of kids, would count against us?
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Who are 'the kids' that you want to put in?
As for 'nothing to lose' isn't one of the criteria for new franchises about quality on the field?
Therefore, jeopardising our league position, win ratio and/or points difference, for the sake of throwing in a bunch of kids, would count against us?'"
vaughan jewitt walton palfrey
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| Quote ="mctiques headband"vaughan jewitt walton palfrey'"
Instead of ... ???
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Who are 'the kids' that you want to put in?
As for 'nothing to lose' isn't one of the criteria for new franchises about quality on the field?
Therefore, jeopardising our league position, win ratio and/or points difference, for the sake of throwing in a bunch of kids, would count against us?'"
Swings and roundabouts though - what about the junior development boxes to tick. I think the "contribution to competition" criteria was about finishing about 8/9 - now, there's no way we are going to finish above 12th this year... but, we have a chance to blood some youngsters who can assist us in proving that we have adequate junior development structures.
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| Quote ="Iain"Sbut, we have a chance to blood some youngsters who can assist us in proving that we have adequate junior development structures.'"
Surely they can only prove our systems are adequate if the youngsters come in and have a positive impact?
If we dropped our oldest 4 players to bring in the 4 youngsters names above, then get absolutely battered in each of our remaining games, surely that makes our youth system worse than doing nothing at all?
Age doesn't mean much IMHO.I've always believed in 'if you're good enough, you're old enough'. My concern is whether these youngsters named are good enough??
You could argue that we'll never know unless we give them a chance, but I have always been wary of throwing kids into unsuccessful sides (especially a few youngsters at the same time) as it can have a very negative effect on their development.
My other concern is that the youngsters who seem to be pushing for first team football seem to be largely in positions where we either already have a youngster, or we have one of our best, older players.
It would seem daft to drop a youngster who is developing in the first team just to blood another youngster, and also to lower the quality of the side by dropping an experienced player who is doing well.
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| Quote Iain wrote: Sbut, we have a chance to blood some youngsters who can assist us in proving that we have adequate junior development structures.'"
Quote Early Bath wrote: With nowt to play for there is NO point at all playing players who are leaving. Put the kids in now Shaun - aabsolutely nothing to lose.'"
Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Instead of ... ???'"
... As more ably intimated by Iain & Early Bath, No point in continuing to select players who are going to be moving on at the end of the season , lets play people in their preferred positions and blood some of the younger squad :- Alker Jnr , Palfrey , Nazir etc
Just a liable to make errors as the current , but likely to have a spring in their step & a point to prove ,
+ our fellow supporters are likely to give them better encouragement.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Who are 'the kids' that you want to put in?
As for 'nothing to lose' isn't one of the criteria for new franchises about quality on the field?
Therefore, jeopardising our league position, win ratio and/or points difference, for the sake of throwing in a bunch of kids, would count against us?'"
From Memory I think Fitzy has another year so :-
Comparing with last Friday :-
Alker Marlon for Alker Malcom
Fitzy for Littler (Fitzy at FB/Wilshere at centre)
Palfrey for Myler
Ratch to SO & Walton to #5 with Henry moving inside.
Jewitt for Stapo
Alker Malcolm for Lulu
Smith for Paul
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| Quote ="Early Bath"From Memory I think Fitzy has another year so :-
Comparing with last Friday :-
Alker Marlon for Alker Malcom
Fitzy for Littler (Fitzy at FB/Wilshere at centre)
Palfrey for Myler
Ratch to SO & Walton to #5 with Henry moving inside.
Jewitt for Stapo
Alker Malcolm for Lulu
Smith for Paul'"
Walton on the wing?? ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| So,
Fitzy
McGillvray, Walton, Henry, Wilshere,
Ratchford, Palfrey,
Jewitt, Marlon Alker, Cashmere,
Sidlow, Adamson,
Swain.
Smith, Sibbit, Nash, Mal Alker.
How would that team go in our remaining fixtures?
Would it keep the fans happy to see this team, even if they were getting beaten heavily?
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"So,
Fitzy
McGillvray, Walton, Henry, Wilshere,
Ratchford, Palfrey,
Jewitt, Marlon Alker, Cashmere,
Sidlow, Adamson,
Swain.
Smith, Sibbit, Nash, Mal Alker.
How would that team go in our remaining fixtures?
Would it keep the fans happy to see this team, even if they were getting beaten heavily?'"
From what I have seen of Marlon Alker he is too much like his brother.
Now a lot of people would say that is a good thing, but do we want another No9 who can just tackle?
Smith to Hooker,Malcolm Alker 2nd Row
I would still rather see Vaughan at FB than Fitzy as unfortunately I think the bad injury Fitzy had and the resulting little niggles he keeps getting mean he will never be the player he was in 2006.
That team may get beat but at least there will be players on the park who will be at the club next year and will want to impress the coach.
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