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| Enough is enough
Just this minute got back.Along with the 100 die hard reds there today I think after watching that s$$t today that the club are ledt with no option!
No more excuses,needing time to settle in etc etc...we are already a laughing stock.
The only reason we beat Celtic was cos there players had only been in the country a week,they would hammer us now,at least they have give most teams they have played so far a run for there money!Where as we have been laughed at week in week out!Our defending is getting worse and worse.Something is serious wrong in the camp,I don't mind seeing my team lose but forking out £40 quid and driving 200 miles to see this is getting rather to depressing now.Would much rather have had a nice afternoon in the garden with the kids and missis.
How any team can go from 12-12 at half time and getting 36 points put past us in such an easy manor is beyond me!Correct me if i'm wrong...Did we even get inside there 20 second half??
Do us all a favour and trot off back home the pair of you!
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| It's a shame that a good club like Salford are being dragged down by the two numpties in the shape of Mcrae and Simms.
Get shut and the improvement will be instant.
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| Can understand people calling for the coaches head when the team are performing so badly, but don't get the calls for Simms to go?
When Chelsea fans wanted shut of Scolari they weren't looking to get rid of Peter Kenyon too?
I know that some of Simms' comments in the press have wound people up but can't think what else he could've said.
I have no reason to want Simms at the club but equally can't think of any reason why we'd be better without him?
He wouldn't be replaced by another coach - his work would have to be picked up by other off-field staff (eg. David Tarry). Can't see how this will change the quality of our on-field performances?
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| Wardleyred, You may come to the same conclusion as me & a great many other die hard fans, you just stop going.
As far as Simms is concerned he has been the common denominator thoughout this stagnant period, we need fresh idea's with a fresh team. Although I have not been a fan of McRae & Simms it is only recently I have made my mind up.
Well done Wardlyred it must have been painful.
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| As an outsider I think you really need to get rid of McRea, you looked clueless in the second half today, any coach worth his salt would of built on a 12-12 half time score, I fear the worst for you guys this season. People say give it time things will get better you have 3 years etc etc, but there is only so much you can take, money is tight at the moment and watching your team get pasted every week is an expence you could do without.
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| It was painfull very painfull!!Ask any other of our dwindling support!
Well that support is defo going to be one down next!As I am not going over there again!Onetrip to the wastelands of Dull is bad enough,never mind 2 weeks on the trot especially after watching the last 6 games
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| Next week will by third time this season! The Joys.
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| Sorry but did any of you seriously expect anything different to what is happening
You have 3 years to get things together , so thats just another 70 odd games , enjoy
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| Quote ="wardleyred"Enough is enough
Just this minute got back.Along with the 100 die hard reds there today I think after watching that s$$t today that the club are ledt with no option!
No more excuses,needing time to settle in etc etc...we are already a laughing stock.
The only reason we beat Celtic was cos there players had only been in the country a week,they would hammer us now,at least they have give most teams they have played so far a run for there money!Where as we have been laughed at week in week out!Our defending is getting worse and worse.Something is serious wrong in the camp,I don't mind seeing my team lose but forking out £40 quid and driving 200 miles to see this is getting rather to depressing now.Would much rather have had a nice afternoon in the garden with the kids and missis.
How any team can go from 12-12 at half time and getting 36 points put past us in such an easy manor is beyond me!Correct me if i'm wrong...Did we even get inside there 20 second half??
Do us all a favour and trot off back home the pair of you!'"
100 turned out correct, but isn't it shocking when you compare the amount that we took to salford in our 1st season in SL, and the amount they brought to us today.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Sorry but did any of you seriously expect anything different to what is happening
You have 3 years to get things together , so thats just another 70 odd games , enjoy
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In all honesty yes! I didn't expect us to be higher than 13th but I did expect us to play with passion and conviction. The team whilst not up to scratch are not the inexperienced team certain people like to make it out as being. NRL payers who need time to adapt! Give me a break the game isn't THAT different to what they have been playing upto now. Players with enpough experience already in SL who aren't playing to the levels they \re able to.
We don't have 3 years to get it together we have 2 until we have to apply for franchise licence renewal.
a crap team = a smaller attendance = less money to spend = less competetive team = no franchise renewel. simple as.
But I promise to enjoy it in a S&M type way
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| You cannot compare the two, all Salford fans ask, is it's team play & compete for 80 minutes.
Fan are not going to waste there hard earned cash for a team who cannot or will not play together, so why should the fans support them.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"100 turned out correct, but isn't it shocking when you compare the amount that we took to salford in our 1st season in SL, and the amount they brought to us today.'"
but you had not been there before so it was a novelty, we have been there and back a number of times and with the team playing with no conviction why should us fans bother going away and paying £20 to get into what is a crap cold ground.
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| I lost all respect for McRae when he re-instated Alker as captain.
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| as a huddersfield fan,i know how these pastings hurt every week so you have my sympathy.
i dont really rate mcrae as a coach personally and was surprised salford brought him back when they did.
so whats the problem? is it just the fact that you are not ready for super league despite last season's relative success?
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| Quote ="wardleyred"It was painfull very painfull!!Ask any other of our dwindling support!
Well that support is defo going to be one down next!As I am not going over there again!Onetrip to the wastelands of Dull is bad enough,never mind 2 weeks on the trot especially after watching the last 6 games
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were do you live......sandals resort. if you could move salford it would,nt look out of place in iraq.
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| Can you get a new coach for next week please...and get the "new coach factor" for your cup game.
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| Quote ="redmuzza"were do you live......sandals resort. if you could move salford it would,nt look out of place in iraq.'"
Iraq is nicer than Hull
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| Where you guys saying this last year when Salford won the championship grand final, finished league leaders and also won the northern rail cup.
I think not.
What you need to appreciate is that it is a huge step up from NL to SL.
Castleford found that out last year, and Hull KR before that, however they were patient with their coaches and its payed dividends in the long term.
You need to look at how the fellow promoted side are doing, and a quick look shows they havent won a game at all.
This year is not the time to criticize your coach, next year is the time to do so, if you are still getting thrashed.
With a further off season and recruitment, Salford should be able to strengthen their team. Players will also have learned of the fitness demands of Sl and should have put the extra effort in to ensure they can compete physically.
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| If you cant do the basics right then your in trouble.The players look shattered there is no confidence in the team or conviction to each other you only have to look at Alkers reaction to Wilsheres mistakes. Then you get the same old crap coming from Baron Greenbacks mouth! Its his team he coaches them he picked the players so if he cant give us the answers get someone in who will!
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Where you guys saying this last year when Salford won the championship grand final, finished league leaders and also won the northern rail cup.
I think not.
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Actually, I'll think you'll find people were. No one's been impressed with McRae's standard of coaching and the team's playing style even last season at a lower level.
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| the difference is the players at Cas and HKR looked like they wanted to play, Salford do not look like that, there is no effort and we have signed second rate Aussies again, this has a knock on effect with the English lads, McRae was a very bad coach in Aus, infact some of our Aussie players who were here when he came had never heard of him, these players were quickly got rid off for McRae to bring in some of his players from aus, remember he won the wooden spoon two years on the trot over there, got the hat trick with us, then we were lucky in the NL and won despite his coaching. Heres to his fourth wooden spoon because with ordinary players he has to earn his crust and he can not do that.
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| And yet, as I think I've said on here before, with us McRae won silverware. That tells me it's your team, not you're coach that is the fundamental problem.
McRae was not the strongest defensive coach we have had and maybe defences are on top more often now so perhaps you could do with a greater defensive effort. However, the coach can be Mr Supremo Coacho yet if he's got a bunch of blokes who have no sense of being part of a team working towards a greater goal then he's on a hiding to nothing no matter what he does.
I know Cas and Hull KR have been cited before but Cas only won four games in their whole first season in SL and they had been here before too. Also, at the end of that season, they shipped 10 of that team out, recruited well (because they were now in a position to do so, being in receipt of greater funds as teams are in SL) and now look at where they are in the table. They've won more matches so far than they did the whole of last year. Hull KR aren't doing too badly either!
If you need to compare yourselves to anyone, compare like for like. Compare yourselves to Celtic and to the Cas of last year and Hull KR of the previous year because that is the realistic thing to do. Comparing your Salford, even with only a year (?) out of SL, to established SL sides is only going to lead you to disenchantment when to go down that road could mean you lose out on the better times when they come, which they will.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"And yet, as I think I've said on here before, with us McRae won silverware. That tells me it's your team, not you're coach that is the fundamental problem.
McRae was not the strongest defensive coach we have had and maybe defences are on top more often now so perhaps you could do with a greater defensive effort. However, the coach can be Mr Supremo Coacho yet if he's got a bunch of blokes who have no sense of being part of a team working towards a greater goal then he's on a hiding to nothing no matter what he does.
I know Cas and Hull KR have been cited before but Cas only won four games in their whole first season in SL and they had been here before too. Also, at the end of that season, they shipped 10 of that team out, recruited well (because they were now in a position to do so, being in receipt of greater funds as teams are in SL) and now look at where they are in the table. They've won more matches so far than they did the whole of last year. Hull KR aren't doing too badly either!
If you need to compare yourselves to anyone, compare like for like. Compare yourselves to Celtic and to the Cas of last year and Hull KR of the previous year because that is the realistic thing to do. Comparing your Salford, even with only a year (?) out of SL, to established SL sides is only going to lead you to disenchantment when to go down that road could mean you lose out on the better times when they come, which they will.'"
who did he take over from i bet there was a good team already in place how long was he there and when at hull did he not inherit a very good brian smith team dont think he lasted too long at them clubs did he not 5 years anyway in both jobs jointly maybe the problem is when he brings his own methods in it all goes wrong
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| And yet, as I think I've said on here before, with us McRae won silverware. That tells me it's your team, not you're coach that is the fundamental problem.
with due respect to the saints players,my mum could of coached the players that were at saints when fat boy was a coach there, all he had to do was turn up, pick a few players and that was it, no coaching involved.
there again i dont think he is doing any at salford either .
time for him to go and take simms with him and the aussuies he signed,
who to bring in ?????
maybe let the players who want to stay and play for the club and the fans,
coach themselves, train themselves, and be honest with themselves and pick the team themselves,
i dont care what but fat boy has got to go and the players who dont want to play aswell.
we have got some good youngsters at the club and if we dont get it sorted by september they will be gone,
and i like most on here think the youngstrers we have got are the future of salford, we just need the rite coach and mcrae is not that coach.
end off, and like a few others i did not go today but had to put up with bbc humber no manchester on the internet??????? why???
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