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| Ha, i thought today was fantastic myself
i thought our forwards played well
our half backs controlled the game
we offloaded well
we tackled
we broke the line
we destroyed crusaders !
We were a disgrace
no passion
no fury
we can't even wrap a ball up for christ sake ! it happened every tackle !
and whoever clapped them off your a mug, that lad who threw the programme ok, that was silly, but they deserved a boo-ing at least
the forwards were patting the other players on the back on a tackle
WHY !
we want to get in there faces ! scare them a little
McRae has got to go
like people were shouting and me myself " McRae has proved his worth now grow a set Wilky and get rid !!! "
ALSO !
That load of crap he said on the radio ! - i dont know where we went wrong, WAIT aren't you the coach ?
also he said its not that far to travel !
i wish i didn't bother after that !
Rant Over haha
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| I never boo the team as that is counter productive, but I would never clap them after a performance like that either.
There were fans there and I use the word loosely who again were hurling abuse at the players (it is always the same ones BTW at the end of a defeat) what will that achieve ?
As for the clown who threw the programme, I hope you are proud of yourself.
I am amazed Patten is coming to Salford and that Holdswortrh talked him into it.
Bet he will look forward to getting abused and objects thrown at him.
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| they are professionals after all they've got to take the stick and yeh the fans are right !
they deserved it.
and its silly if they dont, what should you do just take it like they do !
we've got voices use them.
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| Today we were a joke....completely 1-17 a joke.....one of those games were you cant really take ANY plus points
the only plus point...is the large number of reds fans who made the journey.
However, I think the biggest joke is some of our fans. You need to get your brains in gear and LISTEN to watch our coach is saying
"he doesnt know what went wrong" .......if the teams trained well all week, have been given a game plan, but then go out and knock on....miss tackles....and all have an off day...........how CAN he explain that. Its not possible to explain.....what can he say.......all 17 players are crap and shouldnt be playing this level? If the coach has prepared the players well.....but they still perform crap like today.....well its down to the players to say why they havent followeed the instructions and have played rubbish
PEople saying MCrae should go.....give it a rest. He may not be the best coach....(maybe he is...i dont know) but God couldnt coach some of the players we have cos there NOT super league standard. McRae is doing best he can on a budget......we have players who make mistake after mistake and need to retire or move to a lower level...and until this happens........no coach we will bring in ...could do any better with the players we have.
I can understand why some fans boo'ed...but it achieves nothing.....youll be the same fans moaning when the players dont come and clap you...or dont sign new contracts....or dont get there quality mates to come and sign for the club.
Im as frustrated as anyone, but some of our fans....are very blinkered.....just my opinion of course
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| Yeh i understand where your coming from
about budget and what not
but when he says i don't know what went wrong !
FOR A START HE DOESN'T EVEN TAKE TRAINING
Alker rang him last week and said will you get the cones out of the container, his reply was how do i do that, can you not ask one of the other coaches
HE JUST STANDS AND WATCHES
so how can he say we trained well
HE WOULDN'T KNOW !
he's a waste of space we sacked Karl Harrison basically for the same reason
i'd employ him again ! over McRae !
Us Fans, are patriotic, passionate, furious with what we see when all we see is a bunch of jockeys running around a field not one bit bothered just like today
the only player i see this in is LITTLER, he puts his heart and soul into everything, why cant others be like him
ok they dont have to be the best like littler, but you do that, your undefeatable
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| AT ANY OTHER CLUB MCRAE AND SIMMS WOULD BE OUT, BUT NOT HERE,
SO WILKINSONS TO BLAME THE BUCK STOPS WITH HIM.
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| Oh yeah, lets boo the players off because of 1 bad display, mate no wonder big names don't want to come to Salford if our fans attitudes are like that.
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| Quote ="RED1"Today we were a joke....completely 1-17 a joke.....one of those games were you cant really take ANY plus points
the only plus point...is the large number of reds fans who made the journey.
However, I think the biggest joke is some of our fans. You need to get your brains in gear and LISTEN to watch our coach is saying
"he doesnt know what went wrong" .......if the teams trained well all week, have been given a game plan, but then go out and knock on....miss tackles....and all have an off day...........how CAN he explain that. Its not possible to explain.....what can he say.......all 17 players are crap and shouldnt be playing this level? If the coach has prepared the players well.....but they still perform crap like today.....well its down to the players to say why they havent followeed the instructions and have played rubbish
PEople saying MCrae should go.....give it a rest. He may not be the best coach....(maybe he is...i dont know) but God couldnt coach some of the players we have cos there NOT super league standard. McRae is doing best he can on a budget......we have players who make mistake after mistake and need to retire or move to a lower level...and until this happens........no coach we will bring in ...could do any better with the players we have.
I can understand why some fans boo'ed...but it achieves nothing.....youll be the same fans moaning when the players dont come and clap you...or dont sign new contracts....or dont get there quality mates to come and sign for the club.
Im as frustrated as anyone, but some of our fans....are very blinkered.....just my opinion of course
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"Oh yeah, lets boo the players off because of 1 bad display, mate no wonder big names don't want to come to Salford if our fans attitudes are like that.'"
Yeh it should drive them on to improve to get the fans back !
look at any other clubs !
it would happen they would improve!
look at football also it happens !
in my expierence i know about 50 mates and there family who wont come because of things like this.
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| didnt go to the game but my mate said it was a joke today! the only excuse i can think off why they played poor is that they got nothing to play for now, its the wrong attitude if thats the case! but you got to look at the results this seeason 50-60 points passed us from wigan saints warrington crusaders,this shouldnt be happening!it is time for a change yet it will be hard to get a well know good coach at the club unless we can get millwood from leigh!
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| Quote ="faddy860"it is time for a change yet it will be hard to get a well know good coach at the club unless we can get millwood from leigh!'"
Millwood? I assume you mean Millward??
After today's heavy defeat for Leigh against Dewsbury, leaving them with just 2 wins in their last seven games, their forum is possible the only place in the World that's even more miserable than the Scarlet Turkey at present.
If Salford's 'performance' today is all down to McRae it makes me wonder why you think IM would be a better option???
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| Salford performance is just not about today FFS! All you turkey w@ankers need your head testing, there is no doubt everyone loves SALFORD RLFC, i have clapped salford of every game this season and not missed game for 5 years so don't call me, but im sorry today comes a point where they don't deserved to be clapped of, FFS They couldn't even form a scrum in urgency, Once again Salford play good against the BIG teams and then get a decent following to an away game but it up. Please don't any of you Nob heads come on here and slate me down every1 is entitled to an opinion. The fact is everyone is FED up of the same old, same old, I have known fans for 60 years Mr F B tonight and we agree its noting short of woeful. ok we don't have the biggest budget ever, but getting beat like that is a joke.
Dont get me wrong i will support the club ever more, but it summed it up when i wen to the bar at half time, and a guy turns to his mate and says "its my 3rd game, why do i bother?" i await to be shot down by the im bigger than the club fans but get real it needs to change.
And while we are at it, i know next game we will play good and people will clap then off but its typical Salford against the big clubs, CHANGE is needed.
And a fans mate of small member of the board and turkey try's to slag me of, but im the victim.
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| I thought the annual apology from Mcrea was just that but todays public apology equals at least two so far this season.
Can't even be ar*ed getting het up by it, it seems rather than the exception 50/60/70 points is now the norm.
Pathetic.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Millwood? I assume you mean Millward??
After today's heavy defeat for Leigh against Dewsbury, leaving them with just 2 wins in their last seven games, their forum is possible the only place in the World that's even more miserable than the Scarlet Turkey at present.
If Salford's 'performance' today is all down to McRae it makes me wonder why you think IM would be a better option???'"
lol yer sorry i ment milward
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| Quote ="The Original Red Devils"Salford performance is just not about today FFS! All you turkey w@ankers need your head testing, there is no doubt everyone loves SALFORD RLFC, i have clapped salford of every game this season and not missed game for 5 years so don't call me, but im sorry today comes a point where they don't deserved to be clapped of, FFS They couldn't even form a scrum in urgency, Once again Salford play good against the BIG teams and then get a decent following to an away game but love it up. Please don't any of you Nob heads come on here and slate me down every1 is entitled to an opinion. The fact is everyone is FED up of the same old, same old, I have known fans for 60 years Mr F B tonight and we agree its noting short of woeful. ok we don't have the biggest budget ever, but getting beat like that is a joke.
Dont get me wrong i will support the club ever more, but it summed it up when i wen to the bar at half time, and a guy turns to his mate and says "its my 3rd game, why do i bother?" i await to be shot down by the im bigger than the club fans but get real it needs to change.
And while we are at it, i know next game we will play good and people will clap then off but its typical Salford against the big clubs, CHANGE is needed.
And a fans mate of small member of the board and turkey try's to slag me of, but im the victim.'"
Any chance you could re-type that once you're sober?
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| Quote ="faddy860"lol yer sorry i ment milward'"
Fair enough, was just being pedantic about his name.
Meant what I said about him as a potential Reds coach though, Leigh have been dire recently after a decent start to the season and some Leythers are beginning to question Millward, even though he has God-like status at the LSV.
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| do you think we would be any better if noble was our coach personaly i think we would hes done a great job for them. both teams got promoted together weve just stayed the same but theyve improved a lot this year we should not be getting hammered by them! i would like to know tho how they can afford all the new players and 3 decent coaches that they have!
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| there are a lot of sides struggling this year. I am sure Bradford Wakefield and Catalans all thought they would do better than they have done. As a Salford fan i am used to thumpings on a regular basis interspersed with great victories. Yesterday (no i did not go) i guess was as bad as it gets but this season was about shedding dead wood, building the stadium and a little clue as to our ambition. So on those counts 1 players will be leaving,great servants will move on 2 The stadium is on its way 3 The signings of Patten and Holdsworths contract give a clue we maybe starting to think bigger.
My greatest respect to those of you who flog themselves up and down the land following Salford, you have the right to criticise as you make the effort to go. Yes we are ugly at times but the future looks a little brighter.
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| Quote ="mb"do you think we would be any better if noble was our coach personaly i think we would hes done a great job for them. both teams got promoted together weve just stayed the same but theyve improved a lot this year we should not be getting hammered by them! i would like to know tho how they can afford all the new players and 3 decent coaches that they have!'"
The Crusaders team is totally different to the side that came up, as you state how can they afford all the coaches and players they have, well the Rugby League call it expansion, allowing one set of rules for some clubs and a different set for others. But yesterday we would have struggled against SWINTON.
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| If it's a motivation issue for these games then it is 100% the coaches fault. The same players beat Bradford away and gave Leeds a mighty scare. How can they go out and play so badly against an average side (league position proves this btw). If they couldn't get up for one we should win then it is down to what is said at training. If these players can win in other games then they can play a bit. Yesterday was down to lack of ambition and drive in part. Also McCrae has an inability to change things when they are going wrong. He proved that in the home game against the same opposition when conceding 4 tries to the same cross field kick. He is totally inept and must go!
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| Quote ="Exiledred" Yesterday (no i did not go) i guess was as bad as it gets but this season was about shedding dead wood, building the stadium and a little clue as to our ambition. So on those counts 1 players will be leaving,great servants will move on 2 The stadium is on its way 3 The signings of Patten and Holdsworths contract give a clue we maybe starting to think bigger.
My greatest respect to those of you who flog themselves up and down the land following Salford, you have the right to criticise as you make the effort to go. Yes we are ugly at times but the future looks a little brighter.'"
McRae and Alker are our biggest pieces of deadwood.
There are at least 6 more players who should be told now to go and then give youth a chance.
They can not be any worse than the lot who turned up yesterday.
BTW for those of you defending the coach
Why pick two players just back from injury one of who was obviously not fit and the other who needed more game time
Tyrer suprisingly played OK against Leeds but was dropped.
Alker was not fit from the start.
Sneyd dropped when I would have thought Ratchford himself and Matty Smith at hooker would have been a more creative option
Gibson is not happy on the wing and showed this yesterday.
Why do our forwards always receive a flat pass and never run on to the ball
Why do we always run into the markers
All issues directly attributed to the coach.
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| Salford cannot progress while McRae is in charge, privately the players do not rate him but won't say so in public.
BTW, Talau should have retired a long time ago.
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| There's a lot of things going against the Club to do with human fallibility.
The physical demands of the season are more prominent at the end of the season.
The team has nothing to play for as a group.
The Club has plainly got their mindset on next season.
Players minds will be side-tracked by off-field negotiations regarding their future.
They're playing against sides atm that are scrapping to continue their season.
Plus any number of things going on behind the scenes that we are not privy too.
I'm not making excuses or trying to deflect blame (Something that too many fans are quick to jump on) just pointing out a few factors that may be in effect. I'm sure that everybody at the Club tries their hardest but sometimes it just falls short. They don't go out to make themselves look like idiots or attract abuse.
There is nothing wrong with criticism if it is directed appropriately, I just feel that we should strike this one off as a lesson learnt.
Consistency is the key to RL and gaining it is almost like the Holy Grail of coaching. It's a mixture of psychology, coaching, effort, ability, fitness, player interactions on & off the pitch, and a dose of luck to name but a few. If any of these things are missing the chances of consistency drop considerably. Salford can beat anyone on their day, but also get beaten by anyone on the day.
Crusaders was one of the latter.
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| Butcher, that's far too reasonable, I expect you'll come in for a lot of stick for not calling for the coach's, trainer's, director's, water carrier's head on a plate!
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"
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Salford cannot progress while McRae is in charge, privately the players do not rate him but won't say so in public.
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And yet so many players have signed extended deals. What do the people on here know that the players who are working with him every day don't?
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