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| I was talking to a chap down at Bridgend on Saturday night and he told me he had heard that Salford City Reds were thinking of having a backroom shuffle at the end of this season and if the Wigan Warriors head coach became available he could be on his way to the Willows.
I can't see it myself but you never know in the greatest game now do you.
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| i'd take noble!!
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| No no no. It would be the worst move the club could make.
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"No no no. It would be the worst move the club could make.'"
What ? Worse than McRae to buggers up a winning team ?
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"What ? Worse than McRae to buggers up a winning team ?'"
Noble does that all the time. He has his favourites who get picked no matter what (far worse than McRae in that department), he doesnt like to pick youngsters if he can help it and makes players (again usually the young ones) scapegoats. The majority of Wigan fans want him sacked due to the way he has managed the club over the last few years.
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"Noble does that all the time. He has his favourites who get picked no matter what (far worse than McRae in that department), he doesnt like to pick youngsters if he can help it and makes players (again usually the young ones) scapegoats. The majority of Wigan fans want him sacked due to the way he has managed the club over the last few years.'"
I agree.
The worst thing for our crop of up and coming youngsters would be for Noble to come.
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| Yeah but he'd have to pick them as we don't have the finances to have 9 non-english qualified players (as they had against Hull KR) do we??
It would mean we would continue our boring, dull brand of rugby though.
If we made changes I'd prefer to see someone with a track-record of playing nice-to-see attacking rugby and not more of the same we've had for the past 5 years or so.
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| Allan Hunte the man for me. Always cheerful and a great ambassador.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Allan Hunte the man for me. Always cheerful and a great ambassador.'"
Fantastic call E.B.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"It would mean we would continue our boring, dull brand of rugby though.
If we made changes I'd prefer to see someone with a track-record of playing nice-to-see attacking rugby and not more of the same we've had for the past 5 years or so.'"
Well said that man!
Saturday was an example of how dull and predictable we have become under Mcrae.
Even in the wet conditions at least celtic tried to play rugby , where as throwing the ball wide seemed an alien concept to some of our lads
I want to be entertained when i go to a game but can anyone actually say were being entertained at the moment!
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Allan Hunte the man for me. Always cheerful and a great ambassador.'"
Totally agree.
Just watch the teams he coaches play, it is totally different to the first team.
I would also have Malcolm Alker as an assistant.
The sooner McRae is shifted upstairs away from front line coaching the better for me.
BTW Noble as Salford coach....
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| I agree with what people say about both McCrae and Noble. It would be the worst move we could make and we do play a boring style of rugby under McCrae.
However PIPO, I was royally entertained by the lads against Saints and do you know why? Because they threw the McCrae game plan out of the window in the first half and went for it. Arguably our best performance of the season and it didn't have a McCrae thought in sight.
Pity we reverted back to listening to the dullard on saturday
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| If mcrae moved upstairs, where would that leave father ted?
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| Quote ="red13pjb"I was royally entertained by the lads against Saints and do you know why? Because they threw the McCrae game plan out of the window in the first half and went for it. Arguably our best performance of the season and it didn't have a McCrae thought in sight.
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Quote ="McRae, after the saints game""This victory was just reward for the players' effort. We had a set gameplan and it worked. And I've got to give credit to the players for being able to implement to that plan to a tee.'"
so which one of you is talking out of their backside then?
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| alan hunte no way a lot of players dislike him and neither do i he is a big ego'd to$$er
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| Noble for McRae.............frying pan into fire.
I'd rather have KH back
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| Cullen would be a better choice than Noble.
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| Quote ="redtillamdead79"alan hunte no way a lot of players dislike him and neither do i he is a big ego'd to$$er'"
alan hunte is a rugby genius
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| The club needs a cheating, dirty coach of the like never seen before. We currently adopt a style which is ever so compliant with the rules and regulations but which referees don't seem to recognise.
We'd say that Salford have consistently played by the rules i.e. no forward passes (barring the one in the Hull FC game), no holding down, no deliberate high shots, no offside, no taking out the in-play kicker etc,.
Let's have a coach who treats the rules like all the other more successful coaches and makes Salford a more competitive team!
What was it Alec Murphy used to say " Salford will never win anything because they are too nice" or words to that effect!!!
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| That's for you to decide Baldfella isn't it, but when did we last play that style of rugby under McCrae. His game plans involve 5 dumb-ass forward drives and a kick down field usually straight down the throat of the full back who returns the ball with interest and we end up defending our own line again within 2 tackles.
We even played that way in some games in NL1 last year when we should have been running the opposition all over the park and tiring them out rather than making it easier for them by 1 man s**te up the middle.
Coaches talk about game plans like there's no opposition!!! Kenny Gill never played to a game plan... he just played.... and we won the league twice in 2 years with him at 6.
Here's my game plan for the Cas match on friday. Let Stefan Ratchford boss the show like he did against Saints and lock McCrae and Father Ted in the Willows where they can't do any harm!!!!!
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| well that could be a interesting thing, Noble comes in, succesful at Bradford, ok at wigan will command repect, Mcrae moves upstairs into a Director of rugby role, he is a big name, has coached at the top level for years will entice bigger players with him and Noble at the club didnt he have a simuar role in oz before he came here.
Would leave Mr Simms in a dodgy position tho but at least we would have a comparison to compair with then.
As for having favourites Mcrae has his and plays his too so i dont think that would change too much
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| Good players should not need coaching,they should be allowed to get out there and play their game.
If I was told the plan yet again was to do five drives through the middle run into the markers get nowhere and then kick I would say fook that, lets pass the bloody thing and play the game as it should be.
Noble has the same game plan as McRae.They are dinosaurs in the modern game who should be shunted off to some remote island never to be seen again.
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Noble has the same game plan as McRae.They are dinosaurs in the modern game who should be shunted off to some remote island never to be seen again.'"
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| Quote ="red13pjb"That's for you to decide Baldfella isn't it, but when did we last play that style of rugby under McCrae. His game plans involve 5 dumb-ass forward drives and a kick down field usually straight down the throat of the full back who returns the ball with interest and we end up defending our own line again within 2 tackles.
We even played that way in some games in NL1 last year when we should have been running the opposition all over the park and tiring them out rather than making it easier for them by 1 man s**te up the middle.
Coaches talk about game plans like there's no opposition!!! Kenny Gill never played to a game plan... he just played.... and we won the league twice in 2 years with him at 6.
Here's my game plan for the Cas match on friday. Let Stefan Ratchford boss the show like he did against Saints and lock McCrae and Father Ted in the Willows where they can't do any harm!!!!!'" Kenny Gill may have not played to a game plan but I think you'll find he played alongside slightly better players than we have at the moment.
You talk about 5 drives and a kick,exactly the tactics that beat Saints,its our inconsistency thats our downfall.If we have a good kick/chase (as against Saints),dont give away penalties,and don't knock on,then we are competitive. In too many games this season we've made too many basic errors and struggled because of this.
As for McCrae,any coach that can get wins at Hull.Leeds,Huddersfield and at home to Saints must be doing something right.
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| Quote ="rerykama" .You talk about 5 drives and a kick,exactly the tactics that beat Saints,its our inconsistency thats our downfall.If we have a good kick/chase (as against Saints),dont give away penalties,and don't knock on,then we are competitive. In too many games this season we've made too many basic errors and struggled because of this..'"
i think that is the problem in a nut shell, the players turn over too much ball and get punished against other teams, personally i feel if the players were able to remain as switched on as they were against saints (because they were making a point against one of the bigger sides in the comp) against everyone else i think we would be feared.
Unfortunatley its take a lot phycially and mentally to perform at that level week in week out, that is why we came crashing back down to earth at celtic.
I hope after a weeks rest (that what we'll call celtic mentally) i think the players should be able to produce a simular performance which beat saints
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