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| Should Forever Reds call a meeting,to discuss this crisis.After all Its the only forum we have got, as we do not have a
supporters club as we have had in the past.Then supporters could air there views,about what his going on at the club
then any criticism If any can be put to the club,because I don,t think Mr Wilkinson is sat reading the Turkey.
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| The only crisis at the Club is whether the 3 Directors will continue funding the deficit each year so that you and I can continue to support the Reds.
Unless you have suddenly found a Lottery winner mad enough to take the cub forward any meeting is a complete waste of time.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"The only crisis at the Club is whether the 3 Directors will continue funding the deficit each year so that you and I can continue to support the Reds.
Unless you have suddenly found a Lottery winner mad enough to take the cub forward any meeting is a complete waste of time.'"
Thank God someone that comes on here still uses their brain. How about a meeting for all those who were suckered in by a loud mouth Aussie who showed his committment to our club by running back down under the minute he got a sniff of another job. And while you're having that meeting, John Wilkinson will be giving up more of his own time and own money to get the next coach you can bleat about next time we lose a game.
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| Oh give the Wilky loving a rest ffs it doesn't wash anymore.
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| Quote ="White Rose Red"Thank God someone that comes on here still uses their brain. How about a meeting for all those who were suckered in by a loud mouth Aussie who showed his committment to our club by running back down under the minute he got a sniff of another job. And while you're having that meeting, John Wilkinson will be giving up more of his own time and own money to get the next coach you can bleat about next time we lose a game.'"
It was only a suggestion,so you will not be coming.
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| Quote ="Solly"Oh give the Wilky loving a rest ffs it doesn't wash anymore.'"
Thank you.for your support.
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| You deserve each other Lance - Wardley will be there and a few others who havent a clue how funding a Rugby League club operates.
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| Quote ="Solly"Oh give the Wilky loving a rest ffs it doesn't wash anymore.'"
Please see Barton Flyers post on "Club Funding", if it doesn't wash anymore change your washing powder.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"You deserve each other Lance - Wardley will be there and a few others who havent a clue how funding a Rugby League club operates.'"
Then I take It you are sanguine,with the situation.also you know how a club is run.Who shown you Mr Tarry.
I know you can have a thousand pound and spend It well,or you can have one hundred pounds and spend It well.Yes we
only have the hundred pounds,you tell me If we spend It well.No there will be no meeting,but If there was take It from
me there will be more than you think there.By the way are you one of the few,who think Mr Simms is worth is salary,I say not.
Who in the right mind,would take orders from him.In the last few seasons we have had McCormick Harrison McRae and
Matt Parish who have left, But Teflon Ted,s still with us.Get rid of him,and then you could say we have started to spend
are hundred pound well.Surely you agree.
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"Please see Barton Flyers post on "Club Funding", if it doesn't wash anymore change your washing powder.'"
Sorry I'll bow down to good ol' 'Sir' John how dare I question his running of the club.
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GUYS THIS WAS SET UP IN 5 MINS JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES AND IF IT GOES WELL I WILL REWRITE A KMEW ONE I URGE YOU TO SIGN
www.ipetitions.com/petition/get- ... ford-club/
Petition GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !
www.ipetitions.com
This is petition for GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !. Join the movement! Sign now!
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GUYS THIS WAS SET UP IN 5 MINS JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES AND IF IT GOES WELL I WILL REWRITE A KMEW ONE I URGE YOU TO SIGN
www.ipetitions.com/petition/get- ... ford-club/
Petition GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !
www.ipetitions.com
This is petition for GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !. Join the movement! Sign now!
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| Quote ="Early Bath"The only crisis at the Club is whether the 3 Directors will continue funding the deficit each year so that you and I can continue to support the Reds.
Unless you have suddenly found a Lottery winner mad enough to take the cub forward any meeting is a complete waste of time.'"
What he said!
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Quote ="adamred4life"GUYS THIS WAS SET UP IN 5 MINS JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES AND IF IT GOES WELL I WILL REWRITE A KMEW ONE I URGE YOU TO SIGN
www.ipetitions.com/petition/get- ... ford-club/
Petition GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !
www.ipetitions.com
This is petition for GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !. Join the movement! Sign now!'"
I remember something along these lines happening when some friends tried to get rid of a teacher when I was a 12 year old in secondary school.
Thought it was pathetic then too!
Grow up!
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Quote ="adamred4life"GUYS THIS WAS SET UP IN 5 MINS JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES AND IF IT GOES WELL I WILL REWRITE A KMEW ONE I URGE YOU TO SIGN
www.ipetitions.com/petition/get- ... ford-club/
Petition GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !
www.ipetitions.com
This is petition for GET STEVE SIMMS OUT OFOUR SALFORD CLUB !. Join the movement! Sign now!'"
I remember something along these lines happening when some friends tried to get rid of a teacher when I was a 12 year old in secondary school.
Thought it was pathetic then too!
Grow up!
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| Quote ="lancetodd"
Then I take It you are sanguine,with the situation.
No I am just very grateful that the Board continue to fund the daily losses.
also you know how a club is run.
Not a clue. I am merely a supporter.
Who shown you Mr Tarry.
I know you can have a thousand pound and spend It well,or you can have one hundred pounds and spend It well. Yes we only have the hundred pounds,you tell me If we spend It well. No there will be no meeting,but If there was take It from me there will be more than you think there.
I think what you are saying if it takes the Board of 3 to fund £10,000 weekly loss then you will find 30 to fund that weekly loss. Your postings are bizarre and not thought out at all.
By the way are you one of the few,who think Mr Simms is worth is salary, I say not. Who in the right mind,would take orders from him.In the last few seasons we have had McCormick Harrison McRae and
Matt Parish who have left, But Teflon Ted,s still with us.Get rid of him,and then you could say we have started to spend are hundred pound well.Surely you agree.
If its the Boards wish to employ Mr Simms then as they are the 'Pipers' who play the tune and thus I would follow them rather than your ill thought through plans of a mass input of funds from parties unknown.
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Lance - your continued vitriol indeed hatred of Mr Wilkinson and Mr Simms continues unabound.
Just sit down to consider - if there was no further funding from the Board the club would go down the pan. For me we are at the edge of the abyss at the moment and it requires support from the masses rather than this continued diatribe against the Board.
You should be spending your time finding that Fairy Godmother you feel is out there.
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| the point of the forums is to discuss issues and lancetodd asking the same questions as other fellow reds are asking.Wilky doing a good job putting mony into the club,its people round him i think are the problem.
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| Early Bath
even when you broke up that posting into bite-sized pieces, it still did not make sense.
I've tried to put it through a google translation but it remains GIGO
Can someone explain what the hell he's going on about. I think there was a poor reference to a Dickens quotation in there but lost the thread immediately after.
27 years down the drain.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Lance - your continued vitriol indeed hatred of Mr Wilkinson and Mr Simms continues unabound.
Just sit down to consider - if there was no further funding from the Board the club would go down the pan. For me we are at the edge of the abyss at the moment and it requires support from the masses rather than this continued diatribe against the Board.
You should be spending your time finding that Fairy Godmother you feel is out there.'"
Last season we got the Sky money like every other Super league club,plus the sponsorship money,plus odds and ends,
so are you telling me the board put money in,do you no this for a fact,if you don,t.Then the only money we got is on the top line. If you was the chairman of the club,in the state we are in,would you be spending money on a Football Director
or where It should be on players.I don,t think a fairy godmother would come in and let this lot spend her money,
I bet you would,t either,
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| "do you no this for a fact,if you don,t.Then the only money we got is on the top line. "
Does anyone own a babel fish that I could use for LT?
At least Australians can and do speak English.
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| I'd say the last few seasons supporting the Reds for the supporters has been a question of faith over common sense.
The last season and last 6 months in particular has made more than just the ' hot headed ' question, not just the leadership on the coaching staff and field, but of the club as a whole.
Surely we can make public our concern's and fears over where the management of the club has taken us without being shouted down by the ' [iwithout JAW we wouldn't be here [/i' veto,
Since at least 2004 the New Stadium has ben touted as almost a Nirvana destination , a made real emerald city and that once there all our troubles will be behind us.
The Barton Stadium is a very different proposition than the one first muted , It carries an hefty financial burdon on the Club as Primary tenant, and doesn't appear to open ' massive income streams'? In fact it appears the Club are cutting back for their inaurgural season there. yet in our franchise bid [i(The club has set itself ambitious performance targets in the new stadium which are based upon solid commercial, marketing, and media plans in what will be an excellent facility)[/i ( We the Fans don't Know ).
The decision over colours of seats in the stadium has brought home how little say we will have in the ground , how much say? ( We the Fans don't know ).
Are Sale RUFC being courted as Joint Tenants and what the relationship with the Stadium Management and the Primary Tenant be ? ( We the Fans don't know ) .
The lack of forward planning towards the move - Marketing ? , next season Shirts , Travel/ Parking and transport arrangements , who is in controls of this the Club or the Stadium management ? ( We the fans don't know ) .
The decision of the 'hiearchy' of the club in choosing an unknown Aussie coach , and the embarassing situation we are in now , will the club apologize or explain, and will anybody be culpable ? ( we the Fans don't know ).
The bizzare departure of Malcolm Alker from the Club and the protracted end of Shaun Mcrae , goes on record on BBC mcr he has no interest in another high profile coaching position and two days later is announced as Hull's Director of Rugby.. you guessing? we don't know.
The clubs hammering by the Franchise commitee we need invest further in its playing squad and player development programmes , whilst it is well know we are the worst invested player development program in the league , what are the clubs plans ? ....
The statement that playing kit has not been made available to the senior squad dispite it being publicised the team were returning on 31st Oct ....
So there seems to be enough questions that can be asked, and to deserve an answer of without neccessarily demanding the mass resignation of the board.
We are only human to be concerned for the club we love and to receive more than ' there will be no further comment on this issue'.
I'm sorry but this is a contemptable attitude and will only foster futher speculation if not addressed.
No I don't wish the Chairman to resign , no I haven't got a spare 10m quid stashed away, but yes I do think the club should come clean about it's performance to it's major stakeholders ... it's fans
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| Good post middleman.
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| Quote ="Iain"Good post middleman.'"
Seconded.
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| Middleman some interesting points, but I would reckon Salford are one of the unluckiest clubs going, every time we seem to be taking a step forward we end up three steps back and as with the new stadium some of this is not the clubs fault. The iconic stadium, its funding stopped by the Casino lottery, the next funding stream the retail park, objections from Manchester Council led to a public enquiry adding more expense before a sod was cut. Then along comes the credit crunch and nobody wants the hotel that was to fund the ground. Next the playing side of things, we are told that players don't have proper medicals, so in the last few years we have signed players who are too injury prone, is that our fault well you take a risk, but the signing of Moon and the weekend it is announced, he breaks his ankle well that could not be foreseen.
The inability to get home draws in the CC to generate some extra gate money, some of us fans must have done something bad in our past lives to take on Salford. Oh and one more thing we suddenly get more fan competition as City are bought by a billionaire and their wayward fans return to them and United in this period have been winning trophies galore.
We even had Lib Dem candidates calling the club as an attempt to win a seat in the local elections. I am sure others can add to this, Leeds the semi against Sheffield the club just self destructed when losing was the hardest thing to do.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Early Bath
even when you broke up that posting into bite-sized pieces, it still did not make sense.
I've tried to put it through a google translation but it remains GIGO
Can someone explain what the hell he's going on about. I think there was a poor reference to a Dickens quotation in there but lost the thread immediately after.
27 years down the drain.'"
Which bit HR ?
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| Quote ="Bigpev"The iconic stadium, its funding stopped by the Casino lottery, the next funding stream the retail park, objections from Manchester Council led to a public enquiry adding more expense before a sod was cut. Then along comes the credit crunch and nobody wants the hotel that was to fund the ground. Next the playing side of things, we are told that players don't have proper medicals, so in the last few years we have signed players who are too injury prone, is that our fault well you take a risk, but the signing of Moon and the weekend it is announced, he breaks his ankle well that could not be foreseen.
The inability to get home draws in the CC to generate some extra gate money, some of us fans must have done something bad in our past lives to take on Salford. Oh and one more thing we suddenly get more fan competition as City are bought by a billionaire and their wayward fans return to them and United in this period have been winning trophies galore.
We even had Lib Dem candidates calling the club as an attempt to win a seat in the local elections. I am sure others can add to this, Leeds the semi against Sheffield the club just self destructed when losing was the hardest thing to do.'"
Sorry Pev, apart from a couple of points re the 'iconic' stadium thats got to be the most codswallop of an excuse to back the club that I've ever read.
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| Quote ="lancetodd"Last season we got the Sky money like every other Super league club,plus the sponsorship money,plus odds and ends,
so are you telling me the board put money in,do you no this for a fact,if you don,t.Then the only money we got is on the top line. If you was the chairman of the club,in the state we are in,would you be spending money on a Football Director
or where It should be on players.I don,t think a fairy godmother would come in and let this lot spend her money,
I bet you would,t either,'"
Lance - ask yourself who makes up the £500k deficit? If its not the Board then there will be some very kind creditors. The simple fact is we lost Half a MIllion in the year.
As for the Football Director. JAW is happy to have SS do the contracts and everything else HE might have to do so he can concentrate on his businesses.
Keep looking for that Fairy Godmother please or send an email to Mr Done. If he can spend £800 Million to buy the Tote Salford is just chicken feed. The `Bet Fred Dome` etc. Go on - sell him the idea. JAW would be pleased to release control if you can manage it.
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