do we need to start one?? please leave your views here.Me personally thinks yes we do need to start again with someone new. any views??

Yes you should get rid...he misses tackles...he cant catch....

I don't think it would make any difference to be honest! The powers that be have made this club what it is and they've suggested they will be at the promised land for far too often. To be a Salford fan you have to put up or shut up as there isnt a solution as far as I can see.

Who would you bring in there is no one available i agree he aint a good coach but there aint anyone good enough to replace him in the job at this moment in time so we are stuck with him

I can't say I always agree with getting rid of a coach when a team starts to play poorly as in a great many respects it is the players who are at fault.
But for me we have played poorly for a great deal of lastseason aswell, at times in NL1 we struggled and the excuse that we were every teams cup final doesnt wash with me.
I actually would see if Mcrae was better at Simms job and get in new head coach, I can't see any great new British talent coming through so you again have to look down under and Ricky Stuart is the name that springs most to mind other than that maybe Wayne Bennett if he could be persuaded to come, the coach we appoint this time again has the squad prepicked so his handsare tiedfor a season and with the no relegation he has a certain luxury (Bennett for me is the 1st choice as look at some of the incredibletalent has unearthed in Australia).

A benefactor needs to befound o givea good coach a good salary and not resort to the need for him to be a sidekick on Sky in Mcraes case or the BBC in Robbie Palus case.

I doubt any of this will happen.

LOOK this first season back in Super league is all about learning and with no threat of relegation I firmly believe we should all get behind our head coach McRae and let him get on with the job.

IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING PATIENT IN 2009.

Perhaps fan power is the answer this season. The club have already capitulated to fan power twice this season. 1st with the shirt and then with Alker. Both wrong options IMO.

My question is if it could work who would take over? Theres no one of real quality who would 1- take the job, 2 - we could afford.

Lets face it at the moment we need to be a little more realistic on what our expectations for the season should be. Some of the neanderthals in the shed need to open their eyes to the real situation. SL is a whole different kettle of fish from when we were last here.

If this was football he would have gone ages ago, and it wouldn't have mattered how much it would have cost, because if the manager is costing you money and stopping you from progressing further, and not wining, and pottentially losing your players confidence, and not gaining any more fans, i mean there giving away tickets for christs sake, how many more signs do you need to show you that this club needs to take drastic steps now, before its to late before this club ends up back in NL1, after being give the chance to grow iinto the club that it should be, i know we have three years, but if we keep saying that then where just going to be throwing money away, and letting the rot get an even better hold of the club than it already has, we need somebody i dont know who so dont ask me, to get a hold of this team and undo the mess mcrae has made, your gonna say but the managment has something to do with it, yes but its mcrae who says who goes were and who plays on match days.

you starting a petition i'm on it

I agree, who's going to sign my petition for compulsory use of punctuation to make reading your posts easier

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I dont actually worry that SM is a bad coach I worry that his tacticle nowse is not what it should be, he seems hell bent on being totally rigid with his use of the forwards - look at Cashmere he is actually asking for more game time as he thrives on it, look at the weather and conditions he is usedto playing in and contrast with whatwe have at the moment and if anything he wants to keep on the pitch to keep warm.
No for SM would do a much better job upstairs, I know this will get me ridiculed but I think that at some point Goulding will become a quality coach and the notion of Hanley being approached just came to me.

Simple answer no! But you can start one to get rid of Simms! I'd sign that one......

And how many football clubs who chop and change their managers constantly find success? Look at city, they've had a revolving door on the managers office for a while and the lack of stability has brought them nothing. Compare and contrast with United, they stuck with Ferguson even though results were crap, the club was going nowhere and the fans were calling for his head. That stability behind the scenes, the patience from the board and giving his plans time to settle and work paid dividends.

Sacking the manager/coach isn't always the golden answer it first seems. We sacked Harrison and nothing changed - in fact, it became quite clear at the end of that season that it was down to the players. Would getting rid of McRae be any different? I doubt it. Not to mention there's not really anyone out there who could/would be willing to come in and change things for the better.

Get Ian Millward as yer new coach

i dont understand why everyone is like this towards SM,

a woman stood at the back of the shed was shouting verbal abuse towards him at half time against wigan, along the lines of 'you fat bas$tard' etc, when she obviously hadnt looked in the mirror that morning.

Give him more than 6 games into the first of a 3YEAR licence FFS

IMO......it's a bit out of order calling for someone's head on an internet forum.
I don't imagine any of us would appreciate it.

According to a Sunday paper a few weeks back (can't remember which one though) Millward was linked with the job should SM get the boot.

In answer to the original post, NO, I wouldn't sign a petition to oust SM.

GT's post is probably the most sensible post i've read on here for ages! How often do you get to say that about one of his posts?



Some people need to get their heads out of the clouds!!

Firstly,
we need to give him time in SL. I think we played badly at times last season but the squad was very young and inexperienced.

Secondly
the team needs stability, whether long term Shaun is the answer or not this team need time in an atmosphere that is healthy without the backbiting etc.

The players need to accept responsibility.

Cashmere may want more time, but he needs to make the tackles, he isn't doing so at present, this in turn may have more to do with the lack of game time.

The biggest thngs are:
Shaun needs to make some tough calls and dropping a couple of players is a start.

Shaun needs to stop making himself and the club look stupid in the press and on the radio, he sounds as if he is surprised and lacks solutions to the problems.

Steve Simms needs to think about the way he bigs up the players, yes praise Myler but not in the way he did last week.

Short answer is no sacking or petition.

I think I have resigned for capacity to attend away matches, because what i see on the park is making me very angry, i want this club to be up with the best with big crowds watching entertaining rugby. This season the effort on the field as all but disappeared, the rugby is very boring and predictable and the stadium situation just is a long running farce, I am actually sick of the club at the minute if the truth be known. I stood in my usual spot for the wigan game with a wigan fan and his comments were very correct about the team and I felt pain because the truth hurts, and somebody at the club should make some sort of statement about what exactly we are doing and where we are going. I just see despair all around me and going to matches is not fun anymore, perhaps we could up the crowds by making attendance at a Salford match part of a Community Sentence just a thought.

Well, Martin Edwards said not, but I think everyone knows it did. But that proves my point. United stuck with Fergie, Robins scored that goal, we won the Cup that year and it went on from there. If we'd sacked him when everyone was calling for his head, when the supporters wanted him out, it's quite possible none of our success would ever have happened.

I'm not saying that, in five years time, Salford will be beating all before them. But a bit of stability would do us a lot of favours.

Having read numerous posts over the past few weeks with regard to Salford’s disappointing start to Super League, I find it heartening that like myself our club has so many passionate supporters that so desperately want so see the team perform well and compete at this level. Personally I can only speak for myself when I say I want to come away at the end of a game feeling proud in the knowledge that my team have competed, performed to the best of their ability and played an entertaining brand of rugby.

I can appreciate we are new to the league and that we are only a few games into the new season but the performances thus far have left me feeling embarrassed, frustrated and totally pessimistic about coming up to speed soon at this level.

I can also understand the need to point fingers by questioning and criticising individuals within the club, and let’s face it nobody has been exempt from this. Having taken time to reflect I think you have to look at the whole picture and appreciate that the playing field is not level because:-

1. Our fan base, income and profile are too low compared with other SL clubs.
2. Our salary cap budget is considerably less than most. (400-500K) and our squad lacks the quality and depth of other clubs.
3. The development area doesn’t produce enough quality young players at the moment. (I understand we now have a big team working hard in the Schools but it will take several years to see the full benefits of this work)
4. Attracting better quality players to the club – We mainly get players the top clubs don’t want or average at best overseas players.
5. The new stadium delays have definitely caused apathy and frustration within the club. It’s absolutely vital for the future that it starts to happen this year. Unfortunately our destiny seems to be totally in the hands of Peel and Salford City Council.

I’m not looking to defend nobody or make excuses for people but these are all facts that have a negative effect on the ‘bigger picture’ if the club are to improve. These are obstacles that have to be overcome if our club is to progress to greater heights.

Is the level of criticism fair towards Shaun McRae or is it similar to expecting Ginger McCain to train a donkey to run in the Grand National? although Karl Harrison seemed to achieve this until we fell painfully at the last hurdle?

Well i cant say im impressed with anything about us this year, tactics,quality, the never ending saga of our stadium..the list could go on and on but i dont see how sacking our coach would help right now. Yes we are absolutely awful at present and a new guy may get more out of us but we just dont have the money to pay him off and get another bloke in. Plus just who would be available. Yes it all sucks at the moment but its a dead season to all intents and purpose i am resigned to having to wait to see just what direction,if any, we as a club go in.

In a nutshell . I agree entirely.

What was you thinking would happen this year?, salford would finish top eight.


Give it a rest and get behind your team you've got 3 years of stabillity so use this year as a learning year.
Take a look at Castleford (rest my case)