Cumbria ought to have a team included if this structure is implemented - it's a great rugby league area with thriving amateur teams. Difficult to do it, though. All three teams in Championship 1, and Whitehaven and Workington would be slightly less willing to merge than, say, the soccer clubs MCFC and MUFC, Southampton and Portsmouth, or West Ham and Millwall.

Or Salford and Oldham for that matter, casting our minds back about 15 years.

I wasn't having a pop, I was just saying, as much as I'd like to be a SL club in theory we are mile apart from the top 4-5 sides, in both playing personnel and administratively.

Fair play, sorry for being a tart, bad day in work n'all that!

What's up a punter not pay because you had sand in vasoline

We'll always end up where we deserve to end up, that's the bottom line. If we end up down there then we end up down there - I don't remember it being that dark. Plus, with that suggested system, it wouldn't be as bad as it is now.

Trust me if you take away the days out and just go to the games like I was doing in 2008 it was dark very dark, we were rubbish, no atmoshere home or away, no big numbers of opposition fans to speak of.

It's a slow slow death imo in the championship get out in 3 years or your history.

KOTS made up league would be better, not as dark but still not exciting.