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| just wanted to say he is the most over rated player in super league, he will get battered over there in the nrl. the games he played over here against the aussies he was poor and was easily found out by the aussies. people rave on about him over here but he's just average at best, the aussies will kill him over there and he will find it hard because the aussie refs wont listen to him whingeing all the time, good luck james you'll need it!!!
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| What a desperately lonely,sad,inadequate little individual you must be.
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| Quote ="pud"just wanted to say he is the most over rated player in super league, he will get battered over there in the nrl. the games he played over here against the aussies he was poor and was easily found out by the aussies. people rave on about him over here but he's just average at best, the aussies will kill him over there and he will find it hard because the aussie refs wont listen to him whingeing all the time, good luck james you'll need it!!!
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12 posts in, I would have thought you would have trolled in with a bit of stealth.
This could be the quickest moderator kill......to date.
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| Disagree. Got injured in the first game and played well against the Kiwis. Our entire pack got battered in the Final, but to be fair he was playing with an injury.
Quick, good defence, great handling and can play 80 mins.
The Aussie refs won't listen to him whinging? They listen to Johnathan Thurston.
If Luke Burgess, Kylie Leuluai and Jarrad Hickey can hold their own over there, he'll be fine.
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| Even as a Wigan fan I have to admit Jammer is immense. He is a machine and just doesn't stop. He'll do well in NRL.
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| Quote ="pud"just wanted to say he is the most over rated player in super league, he will get battered over there in the nrl. the games he played over here against the aussies he was poor and was easily found out by the aussies. people rave on about him over here but he's just average at best, the aussies will kill him over there and he will find it hard because the aussie refs wont listen to him whingeing all the time, good luck james you'll need it!!!
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Good luck to Graham, hope the guy makes the grade time will tel.
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| get battered? he'll get sunburnt.
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| Just like Gareth Ellis and Sam Burgess.
Why oh why do our players go over to the nrl just to be shown up so often?
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| Just wish he'd drop the ball-handling prop role and go back to being the machine who drove it in hard. Was a better player and I actually think this change of aspect in his game has actually lowered his performances. Players know what he is going to do now.
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| England's best forward in the four nations. He was immense against the Kiwis and took the Aussies on single handed at times in the final.
Going off international performances if Gareth Ellis can win Wests player of the year 3 times on the trot then Graham should rip it up. A far better player.
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| Quote ="Fully"Just wish he'd drop =#FF0000the ball-handling prop role and go back to being the machine who drove it in hard. Was a better player and I actually think this change of aspect in his game has actually lowered his performances. Players know what he is going to do now.'"
He gets it right at times and gets team mates smashed at others, needs to learn when and where to throw a pass.
Oh and a fantastic prop by the way!
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| the only problem graham will have is that not all the players on hes team will want a nickname ending in SY, for example jamal idrisy if he is staying at the doggies or micheal ennissy. but other than that he will do good but i cant see him making as many meters in the nrl.
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| i honestly think he'll be back at st helens after a year.........good luck to him though
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| It depends on how they use him. If they spot his robotic workload and herculean effort tbey will use him for 70 minutes a game and he'll do just as well as he does in SL.
If they reduce his game time it might increase his impact. It will be interesting to see how he goes, but he's clearly the best player from SL that has ever gone to the NRL. He's far better than either Burgess was or is and they've done well.
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| he's not better than burgess.........
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| The OP is the worst troll ever.
OK England didn't play well in the final, but to clarify how good Graham's game is, watch the first England/Australia game from this years four nations. Whilst Graham was on the pitch England were completely dominant, this was partly due to the tempo Graham plays at.
He's not got to smash players with raw aggression like Burgess or Morley, and I honestly don't think he has the same attritional qualities as Peacock. On the other hand he's very quick, for a prop, always makes metres, always gets a quick play the ball and is natural rugby player. He would have fitted into NSW team that played so well in the second SoO game this year, and improved it.
When comparing League to Union I used to say league was the purist form of Rugby; doing the physical aspects of rugby better, without haing to worry about where your forwards are. I wouldn't disagree with that, but Graham shows how important it is for a player to get their technique right and play at a high tempo. In that respect he's very similar to Paul Gallen. Though, I really hate the whinging.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"he's not better than burgess.........'"
Different players. Burgess, on a day when everything clicks, could destroy most teams in the world, but he would need players like Graham around him to make that happen!!
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| In the game against the Austrlians he took the first drive off our line in the second half, why the hell would he set off running and then give the worst pass ever out to no one. In my days you hit the line as hard as you could to get the ball away from your own line.
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| Quote ="pud"just wanted to say he is the most over rated player in super league, he will get battered over there in the nrl. the games he played over here against the aussies he was poor and was easily found out by the aussies. people rave on about him over here but he's just average at best, the aussies will kill him over there and he will find it hard because the aussie refs wont listen to him whingeing all the time, good luck james you'll need it!!!
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Given the tackling technique displayed by the Aussies in the 4 nations , I would suggest you are right , smashing people in the face will batter him
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It depends on how they use him. If they spot his robotic workload and herculean effort tbey will use him for 70 minutes a game and he'll do just as well as he does in SL.
If they reduce his game time it might increase his impact. It will be interesting to see how he goes, but he's clearly the best player from SL that has ever gone to the NRL. He's far better than either Burgess was or is and they've done well.'"
Not better than Ellis either, as good but not better.
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| Paul Gallen in the Four Nations final:
ran 141m
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Graham:
134m
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35 tackles
To put things into perspective:
peacock ran for 62m
ellis 64m
matt scott 46m
Hardly a bad game, was it?
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| Jammer will go fine in the NRL,tough bugger who can take anything thrown at him,his team mates and coach will think he is a godsend IMO.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Jammer will go fine in the NRL,tough bugger who can take anything thrown at him,his team mates and coach will think he is a godsend IMO.'"
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| Looking foward to see how he goes over there, I hope he does well. He has shown he can mix it with the best of Australia and NZ so im sure he can cut it in the NRL.
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