You clearly don't believe my SL attendance figures are wildly inaccurate, fudged, lies, etc.

Otherwise you wouldn't have utilised them would you?



Nevertheless, I still await your reason(s) for using my SL attendance figures.

Would that be because official sources (or compliant moonie allies in the local media) haven't published them?

I'll hazard a guess and say he's used your figures to stop you disputing anything. And to wind you up of course.

It obviously worked.

So are your figures accurate then? If they are what's the problem?

Aren't you sure whether they are accurate?

If you aren't sure whether they are accurate, then why didn't you utilise an official source instead?

I'll ask it again. Are your figures accurate William? They're your figures. You should know.
Why are you unsure of your own figures? Are you saying they can't be used as a basis for a comparison or debate regarding attendances?

Why are you quoting attendance figures that you cannot validate or vouch for?

Furthermore, why are you quoting attendance figures from a source you are unsure of? A source which, I might add, is regarded by your fellow moonies as agenda-driven, negative, pessimistic, biased and who must really hate rugby league?

Are you really that desperate?



And where are the official verifiable attendance stats which you ought to have sourced instead?

Do they not exist?

If not, then why not?

Stop trying to divert the discussion William. Are you questioning my source for the stat I gave or not?

My attendance stats don't include counting you (or anyone else) as attending 7 fixtures during the Moonie Weekend.

According to my stats, the Moonie Weekend attendance last year was 36,339 + 28,213 = 64,552 which was incorporated into the 2014 SL attendance total.

According to your Moonie logic for working out attendance stats, the Moonie Weekend attendance should surely be recorded as ((36,339 x 4) + (28,213 x 3)) = 229,995

So I'll ask you again... why are you now using my attendance stats as a source if they are compromised and fudged in the manner above which doesn't comply with your particular brand of moonie logic?


I'm not questioning your source at all. The source is almost impeccable IMHO.

However, I am questioning your stat!

Quote ="William Eve"Hasn't the official RFL or Superleague websites declared the SL attendance figures for 2014 yet? What about the Brighouse-based publications? Have they not done so either? '" Think these derive from Moonie Express. www.totalrl.com/opinion-super-le ... e-concern/ I can only assume your disdain for said publication arose from a failure to win the replica HKR shirt awarded as last week's quiz prize

Quote ="William Eve"Hasn't the official RFL or Superleague websites declared the SL attendance figures for 2014 yet? What about the Brighouse-based publications? Have they not done so either? '" Think these derive from Moonie Express. www.totalrl.com/opinion-super-le ... e-concern/ I can only assume your disdain for said publication arose from a failure to win the replica HKR shirt awarded as last week's quiz prize

Are you sure about that quoted Super League total above?
What's your source?





Oh dear

Quote ="Clearwing"Think these derive from Moonie Express. www.totalrl.com/opinion-super-le ... e-concern/'" Moonie Express didn't offer a total SL attendance figure in that link unfortunately. Just a list of average attendances by SL club in comparison to the previous season, of which only 5 out of 14 equate with my figures. You'll not be surprised to learn that I'll take my figures over theirs any day of the week Quote ="Clearwing"I can only assume your disdain for said publication arose from a failure to win the replica HKR shirt awarded as last week's quiz prize '" I'm of the opinion that (apart from the occasional exception to the rule) said publication offers little beyond an uncritical and sycophantic mouthpiece for the RFL (much like the rest of the RL media), which stands to reason as the RFL will be by far their biggest source of advertising income.

Quote ="Clearwing"Think these derive from Moonie Express. www.totalrl.com/opinion-super-le ... e-concern/'" Moonie Express didn't offer a total SL attendance figure in that link unfortunately. Just a list of average attendances by SL club in comparison to the previous season, of which only 5 out of 14 equate with my figures. You'll not be surprised to learn that I'll take my figures over theirs any day of the week Quote ="Clearwing"I can only assume your disdain for said publication arose from a failure to win the replica HKR shirt awarded as last week's quiz prize '" I'm of the opinion that (apart from the occasional exception to the rule) said publication offers little beyond an uncritical and sycophantic mouthpiece for the RFL (much like the rest of the RL media), which stands to reason as the RFL will be by far their biggest source of advertising income.

Ok, it does appear that Him and moonie81 have done a runner with their tails between their legs. Perhaps they've finally discovered their embarrassing error?



The Total SL Attendance figure for 2014 (regular rounds) was 1,540,332

The Total SL Attendance figure for 2013 (regular rounds) was 1,619,701

Him and his lapdog moonie81 utilised my figures as the source, but utilised the wrong yearly figures



That might just affect their earlier comparison with Aviva Premiership attendances.

Erm, I quoted Him, who used your figures.

Quit flapping and move on.

Not at all but please be aware that some of us have jobs.

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Looks like you missed my previous post where I answered you. If your figures are wrong then so be it.

Looking at your contribution to this thread, can I ask does yours include live in accommodation......under a bridge?

I'm not the one erroneously citing 2013 SL attendance figures and passing them off as 2014 SL attendance figures and then shifting the entire blame for the embarrassing faux pas over to his source

Yeah because i'm the troll here

Oh, he quoted the wrong year. How daft.


I'll go back to work with my tail between my legs then, hope I can concentrate through all the shame.

Enjoy your afternoon cloud watching or whatever it is you do when you're not on here.

You've yet to mention McNamara or the kiwi series in any of your posts to date but instead have attempted to out others........you have failed. You're not a very good troll are you?

Oh am I not? The shame of it.

Is this supposed to be winding me up or something? Haven't you got some RU facts and figures you can bore us with instead? I know no-one's asked but that doesn't usually stop you.

Please FFS can Billy and Gutterfax, take a break from RLfans to let others have a decent conversation?

So what it some fans want to blow smoke up their own s to make themselves feel better.
So what if people want to slag off another sport and compare it to ours whether correct or not.
Most people are aware that what they post isn't always 100% bang on the money with cast iron evidence to back it up but most people who read it also know that and don't argue the toss about it.
No amount of arguing and producing stats will change anything apart from peoples perceptions of you.
So please for everyone's sanity, give it a rest.

About 5 pages back I attempted to get this thread back.on topic......if you're going to whine like a girl, then whine about the posters who have made no reference at all to the subject matter.......

But it would never have gone off topic if you hadn't have taken the bait on offer and went into one (like a child btw). FWIW I agree with most of what you post but you regurgitating it isn't going to change anything.