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| Quote ="Wildthing"Yes funding is in place.'"
A funding model is in place and the SoS has pretty much said that the developer has to prove this by 15th August, along with a few other legal agreements.
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| Well done Wakey and York.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Just remember that , " Build it and they will come " was just a movie , to operate you will need to run at around 80 % capacity all the time , that wont happen unless some serious work is done pre , during and post building of this stadium'"
That may be true, we (the humble fan) don't know the mechanics of the operation yet or the costs and neither do you, so picking a figure out of the air and trying to pass it off as a fact make you look (as has already been pointed out), somewhat bitter!!
We are having a good day, a well deserved good day i might add, and numpty's such as yourself cannot spoil it!
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Good stuff.
So, like I said, what's the next step?
Is there anymore red tape to get through, or can (in theory) work on the site begin as soon as?'"
There is some more red tape, but it's actually good news for us - the developer is required to firm up the delivery plans for the stadium (106 agreement) and submit that to the SoS; everything should be boxed off in 8 weeks time.
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| Quote ="bren2k"A long road ahead, but the early indications are that WTW will be anchor tenants in a new 12k capacity stadium for the start of the 2015 season.
I understand the words of caution but as far as I know, the stadium will be owned by a nfp Trust; that being the case, the likelihood of the club being crippled by the management costs and loss of revenue from sales is significantly reduced.
Happpy day for WTW fans!'"
A very good day for them, it's astonishing the progress that's been made at the Club in the past 12 months.
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| Quote ="bren2k"There is some more red tape, but it's actually good news for us - the developer is required to firm up the delivery plans for the stadium (106 agreement) and submit that to the SoS; everything should be boxed off in 8 weeks time.'"
sounds to be still alot of 'ifs' 'buts' and 'shoulds' in that.
But i hope all goes well for you. This year your crowds have improved massively and Wakey are an example to how a club on the brink can turn it round (all be it with a rather large investor coming on board)
You might be getting a call from Bradford soon to ask if they could possibly share homes! in this situation - NO! is the answer.
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| Quote ="Iain"Well done Wakey and York.'"
Just out of interest , how positive has your experience of Barton been Iain ? , and what words of advice would you give our friends in Wakefield ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Just out of interest , how positive has your experience of Barton been Iain ? , and what words of advice would you give our friends in Wakefield ?'"
God you really are a sour old trollop! Let us have our day! - we all know that Barton hasn't been a bed of roses but I fancy that they are more secure now than they were at the Willows.
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| Quote ="Starbug"icon_biggrin.gif
Stadium costs arent something that will be drastically different and the 10,000 figure is widely accepted as the requirement in SL even if you own your own venue and control and recieve all its income streams
Generally when these projects are costed people tend to be over optimistic on revenue [ just part of wanting something to happen when in reality it is rare that the figures are achieved , as I said the main income control you will have is bodies through the gates , that is where the most work needs to be done , but not with cheap ST s though
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Lease costs unknown, arrangements for food and drink concessions unknown, uptake in support unknown.
Based on, everything being an improvement on where stand today which i THINK it will be, we will be in a far healthier state than what we have been, anything more is a guess.
Who knows our lease costs could even be halved yet!!!!
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| Quote ="Guerrier"A very good day for them, it's astonishing the progress that's been made at the Club in the past 12 months.'"
It is, better than we can have dreamed in all honesty. Good times
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| Quote ="Starbug"icon_biggrin.gif
Stadium costs arent something that will be drastically different and the 10,000 figure is widely accepted as the requirement in SL even if you own your own venue and control and recieve all its income streams
Generally when these projects are costed people tend to be over optimistic on revenue [ just part of wanting something to happen when in reality it is rare that the figures are achieved , as I said the main income control you will have is bodies through the gates , that is where the most work needs to be done , but not with cheap ST s though
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I think the fact that we've achieved a 30% increase in attendances this season would suggest that Mr Glover is working to a much-improved marketing strategy; a few decent signings, real progress on the stadium and a continuation of the good work he's already doing should see us taking 10k to Newmarket without too many problems.
There's a lot to happen between now and then, but your prophecies of doom are misplaced and unwelcome.
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| Quote ="Starbug"as I said the main income control you will have is bodies through the gates , that is where the most work needs to be done , but not with cheap ST s though
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Away support should be up at the new stadium. The number of away fans who currently boycott our 'third world' Belle Vue will have nothing to moan about and therefore no excuse not to come. They can drink beer from shiny new bars, eat burgers from shiny new kitchens and crap in our shiny new toilets.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I think the fact that we've achieved a 30% increase in attendances this season would suggest that Mr Glover is working to a much-improved marketing strategy; a few decent signings, real progress on the stadium and a continuation of the good work he's already doing should see us taking 10k to Newmarket without too many problems.
There's a lot to happen between now and then, but your prophecies of doom are misplaced and unwelcome.'"
While i agree largely with what you've said bren, if our STs were still "normally" priced our gates wouldn't look quite so impressive.
We really have got to get the mix right, that is the reality.
Anyway back on track WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!
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| I can see my ' reality check ' posts are causing a little upset and bad feeling , that isnt my intention , I like Wakey as a club and your fans , and I'll miss belle Vue when its gone , so as not to be a ' party pooper ' I'll leave it there
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| Quote ="Starbug"I can see my ' reality check ' posts are causing a little upset and bad feeling , that isnt my intention , I like Wakey as a club and your fans , and I'll miss belle Vue when its gone , so as not to be a ' party pooper ' I'll leave it there
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No need. However we got the point first time - no illusions for us I can assure you.
What is for sure is the only other alternative simply wasn't an alternative.
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| Quote ="Starbug"I can see my ' reality check ' posts are causing a little upset and bad feeling , that isnt my intention , I like Wakey as a club and your fans , and I'll miss belle Vue when its gone , so as not to be a ' party pooper ' I'll leave it there
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Indeed, go and rain on someone elses parade!
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| Quote ="Starbug"I can see my ' reality check ' posts are causing a little upset and bad feeling , that isnt my intention , I like Wakey as a club and your fans , and I'll miss belle Vue when its gone , so as not to be a ' party pooper ' I'll leave it there
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| Well done to Wakey fans for keeping the faith through difficult times!
How big is the stadium going to be?
Please say it won't be all-seater!
What's the plan for when it'll be ready?
Without wanting to cause a mutual b1tch-fest, what's the likelihood of it ending up being a ground share with Cas?
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| Quote ="Him"Well done to Wakey fans for keeping the faith through difficult times!
How big is the stadium going to be?
Please say it won't be all-seater!
What's the plan for when it'll be ready?
Without wanting to cause a mutual b1tch-fest, what's the likelihood of it ending up being a ground share with Cas?'"
12k
Don't think its going to be
Not sure I_A/TRB will be able to advise I'm sure
Not sure, possibly I guess.
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| Quote ="vastman"No need. However we got the point first time - no illusions for us I can assure you.
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| That was the alternative!!
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| Quote ="Him"Well done to Wakey fans for keeping the faith through difficult times!
How big is the stadium going to be?
Please say it won't be all-seater!
What's the plan for when it'll be ready?
Without wanting to cause a mutual b1tch-fest, what's the likelihood of it ending up being a ground share with Cas?'"
1. 12k, but I think that can be improved with corners, like Wire I believe.
2. It won't.
3. Sir Rodders has said that we should start the 2015 season in it, but he hopes for it to be ready even sooner.
As for Cas sharing it - it's a Community Stadium, so I imagine they'd be more than welcome.
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| Quote ="Starbug"I can see my ' reality check ' posts are causing a little upset and bad feeling , that isnt my intention , I like Wakey as a club and your fans , and I'll miss belle Vue when its gone , so as not to be a ' party pooper ' I'll leave it there
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I understand where you’re coming from regarding a new facility, it’s a bit like Wakefield fans preaching to the Bradford fans about going into administration, been there, done that. All we can hope is that lessons can be learnt from the Leigh scenario,
But just today let us get a little giddy. It’s not like we see our team every win stuff, just constant relegation battles followed by the threat of not receiving a licence, intersected by deaths of serving players, this is as good as it gets I’m afraid.
Come on Starbug, be happy for us, with your lead maybe Smokey will follow .
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| Seems Wakey are improving in all areas, well done, its great to see!!!
Imagine if they'd got the boot from SL and Crusaders had stayed in....................
Ah well - onwards and upwards, and well done again, from a Fax fan!
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