Nothing to do with passports or where you're born Ronnie, for the 3rd time now.

We have 7 Non-Fed players. Clubs are allowed 7 Non-Fed players. No dispensation required.

Rely heavily?

Talanoa, Tuimavave, Fonua, Michaels, Manu, Kelly, Minichiello

So 7 out of 28/29 players we have used this year - hardly a heavy reliance.

What about dispensation for matongo, must be something there. At the end of the day, you're trying to say rovers use way more overseas players then others and we need them. Yes we do need them like every other club, but we have a couple who probably won't play when the 8s start.

Ahh, another example of a Rovers fan knowing absolutely nothing about the Non-Fed rules.

Let me say this again sloooowly for you Moxi. FEDERATION TRAINED. Hull FC are in the RLEF Federation and Masi Matongo has been registered at Hull a number of years. It has nothing to do with whether he was born in Harare or Hull, or what his passport says.

Why must there be something there?

Hull KR have and do rely on overseas players more than most clubs, they have a poor history of youth development and a long history of using as many overseas players as they can get past the RFL.

You no sweet fa sunbeam, so take your drivel somewhere else.

I'm surprised no ones mentioned the Willie Mason/Michael Dobson run around.

So you have 8 players that are not of British nationality but make out we get dispensation for a squad of 40 players all of who are not of British nationality because we rely on getting dispensation from the rfl.

Quote ="moxi1"So you have 8 players that are not of British nationality but make out we get dispensation for a squad of 40 players all of who are not of British nationality because we rely on getting dispensation from the rfl.'" This is getting tiresome. Masi's nationality, passport or birthplace has NOTHING to do with the Fed/Non-Fed rules. Also, just because he was born in Zimbabwe doesn't mean he's not a British National, but that's another point & not relevant in this discussion. Do us all a favour Moxi and read the rules will you? Here they are, all you got to do is click the link and go to section 14. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section% ... %20PDF.pdf

Quote ="moxi1"So you have 8 players that are not of British nationality but make out we get dispensation for a squad of 40 players all of who are not of British nationality because we rely on getting dispensation from the rfl.'" This is getting tiresome. Masi's nationality, passport or birthplace has NOTHING to do with the Fed/Non-Fed rules. Also, just because he was born in Zimbabwe doesn't mean he's not a British National, but that's another point & not relevant in this discussion. Do us all a favour Moxi and read the rules will you? Here they are, all you got to do is click the link and go to section 14. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section% ... %20PDF.pdf

I know the difference between no and know!

Quote ="DGM"This is getting tiresome. Masi's nationality, passport or birthplace has NOTHING to do with the Fed/Non-Fed rules. Also, just because he was born in Zimbabwe doesn't mean he's not a British National, but that's another point & not relevant in this discussion. Do us all a favour Moxi and read the rules will you? Here they are, all you got to do is click the link and go to section 14. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section% ... %20PDF.pdf'" I'm not arguing against the rules! It's the point scoring your trying to achieve by speaking as if rovers rely on dispensation for loads of overseas players when your own club would struggle without them too!

Quote ="DGM"This is getting tiresome. Masi's nationality, passport or birthplace has NOTHING to do with the Fed/Non-Fed rules. Also, just because he was born in Zimbabwe doesn't mean he's not a British National, but that's another point & not relevant in this discussion. Do us all a favour Moxi and read the rules will you? Here they are, all you got to do is click the link and go to section 14. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section% ... %20PDF.pdf'" I'm not arguing against the rules! It's the point scoring your trying to achieve by speaking as if rovers rely on dispensation for loads of overseas players when your own club would struggle without them too!

You can't bend the rules if your playing by the rules which we always have done haven't you more overseas players than us

At the moment, rovers have the best youngsters in the city, the likes of: Oakes, Cator, jubb, Wardill, Moran, Harris, Lawler and Marsh. FC have no one near the quality we have. Keep hold of the likes of them and we won't need to rely on too many overseas players in the future.

That's nonsense we have the lines of Turgut, Abdul, Fash, Matonga, Litten, Wray, Lane, Brown, Sanderson etc, all those above are equal if not bette that's why the first few are becoming established SL players. I'll also back Hull to do a better job at bringing those players through than Rovers.

Your best young player is Oakes, who you nicked from Wakey.

All you've done there is copy the names in the exact order that the hull kr website published them, that have played a game for hull kr first team in the league below super league. Doesn't necessarily mean they are the best youngsters in hull.

Regards

King James

Well we've released one of our non-fed players. That makes 7 plus Moss who had dispensation due to the Bradford situation. Is that better for you Dave? DGM?

I really don't understand why you are so bothered tbh.

I didn't say I was bothered If you actually read the thread properly I was putting a couple of Rovers fans right regarding the actual rules.

Makes sense.

We know Chris' parents and he's a decent guy doing his best for his family ... playing a sport he loves.
We have had many similar people in the Ttinity shirt over the years... our fans even refer to some of them as legends!

Your post hints at conspiracy and misrepresentation on his part! It was intentionally provocative and unnecessary

Bit rich that Dave considering Abdul was nicked from Rovers. As for the other players you've mentioned....bang average kids.

You haven't released him, it's a loan move so as he is still on your books I'd guess it still counts?

This is a rugby forum for all clubs to discuss things like this, I'm interested in rugby that's why we are discussing it, not sure why that's difficult to understand?

Abdul isn't our best young player to be fair and yes we took him from you, he was at Leeds first though if you want to get technical.

Just want to check I'm correct, apart from Abdul (who is on loan at Rovers) all out other young players are bang average and yours are brilliant, if you think this you have seen the likes of Litten or Brown.

I've heard the same thing from Rovers fans for years, but I've only seen Taylor and Wilkin come through your system to make a big impact of the game and both quickly moved to bigger clubs.

Having watched a lot of the academy and young players at both clubs, there are some with great potentialat both clubs, let's just how each clubs develops them.

Who's gone?

Considering you've slated Rovers for using too many overseas players, you really don't understand the rules do you. If he is no longer at Hull KR then how can he be counted on the non-fed list? We only have 7 players classed as non-fed who can play for us the for rest of the season so why would he still count? You could have 15 non-fed on your books but if only 7 are registered to play then you aren't breaking any rules.