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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"not if wellesy has her way. shed rather these teams be given chance after chance on the grounds of mental illness'"
Are you really that desperate that you have to start acting sexist to make yourself feel superior? I know you're failing to bring up a decent argument, but I didn't think you needed to sink THAT low!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"The RFL wouldn't need to. They'd probably go bust.
The fact is, they meet the criteria in a lot of areas and are deserving of their franchise.'"
OMG ..o.k they stop meeting the critia in any fu***g shape or form then...stop trying to twist your argument
or lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places ?
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| Quote ="littlerich"For God's sake STOP throwing this back into these arguments. I don't want to read it. It was 6 years ago. SIX ! Let it go.
bluesox4evaaa - shut the f**k up ! You're forcing people to drag up the horrid past of Halifax RLFC. You're also embarrassing yourself. Enough already. Enough.'"
I am certainly not. in fact i am thoroughly enjoying this.
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| Quote ="littlerich"For God's sake STOP throwing this back into these arguments. I don't want to read it. It was 6 years ago. SIX ! Let it go.
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Sorry, I had no intention of bringing up a bad part of your history to embarrass you!
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| If your ansrew is no...then this is just not the way forward....if you answer yes...I think you lieing to yourself
If they would then yes...maybe this is the way forward, but in a realistic world of RFL thats not going to happen is it?
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"If a club does all of that they will get a license. It was said by Nigel Wood that the best performing NL club will get a license.'"
On or Off pitch , and who makes that decision ?
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"I am certainly not. in fact i am thoroughly enjoying this.'"
........... your lack of substance and basic grasp of reality is making your contributions embarrassing. It's a bit cringeworthy to be honest.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Are you really that desperate that you have to start acting sexist to make yourself feel superior? I know you're failing to bring up a decent argument, but I didn't think you needed to sink THAT low!'"
going with a womans argument on this issue would be more dangerous than allowing a monkey to fly a plane
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| Quote ="classycas2009"OMG ..o.k they stop meeting the critia in any fu***g shape or form then...stop trying to twist your argument
or lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places ?'"
I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"i meant the team that gets stuck up in SL'"
It'll count against them in the next round of license applications.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Sorry, I had no intention of bringing up a bad part of your history to embarrass you!'"
Thanks. I feel better now.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.'"
like the awarding of franchises
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Yes. for the benefit of RL.
those who only care about their own teams or are too stupid to understand what is at stake are voting no.'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"On or Off pitch , and who makes that decision ?'"
Presumably going by the criteria and the decisional will be made by the licence panel.
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| Quote ="classycas2009"If your ansrew is no...then this is just not the way forward....if you answer yes...I think you lieing to yourself
If they would then yes...maybe this is the way forward, but in a realistic world of RFL thats not going to happen is it?'"
If you think a club can be in SL and not achieve ANY of the criteria, you are deluding yourself.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.'"
i dont mean if they dont meet ANY
lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places
Top goes up, bottom goes down....theres no arguments then....make NRL1 more competitve and if your sat at bottom of SL, you need to bck your ideas up or your going down.
Lets not have some people in suits making up ideas of why a team should be there and who shouldnt
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"Presumably going by the criteria and the decisional will be made by the licence panel.'"
Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"going with a womans argument on this issue would be more dangerous than allowing a monkey to fly a plane'"
One, I'm a bloke.
Two, you are an ignoramous.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine'"
well...... [size=200SPOT ON CHAP[/size
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| Quote ="classycas2009"i dont mean if they dont meet ANY
lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places
Top goes up, bottom goes down....theres no arguments then....make NRL1 more competitve and if your sat at bottom of SL, you need to bck your ideas up or your going down.
Lets not have some people in suits making up ideas of why a team should be there and who shouldnt'"
No, they wouldn't swap them, because that's not how the process works.
You really need to understand the licensing process more before trying to argue against it.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine'"
I think it is a hell of a lot more relevant than yours or mine, as these are the people in the positions of power. And I have a feeling that their opinion is a lot more educated and based on a lot more facts than your or mine, hence how they got into these positions of power.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"No, they wouldn't swap them, because that's not how the process works.
You really need to understand the licensing process more before trying to argue against it.'"
yeah, you got that part right....that would be their (RFL's) argument too
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"......their opinion is a lot more educated and based on a lot more facts than your or mine, hence how they got into these positions of power.'"
I did think that about the lads and lasses that ran the banking industry of late
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"No, they wouldn't swap them, because that's not how the process works.
You really need to understand the licensing process more before trying to argue against it.'"
There is no process
You are stupid if you think there is , Franchises are there to expand the sport , nothing more , nothing less
All most want is the RFL to actually announce what they want
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"Congratulations for bringing out 3 examples from the history of super league which argue otherwise. clearly my argument is outgunned by such strong counter evidence. The wakefield/castleford battle, thinking about it, was a complete waste of interest.'"
I think that the interest in that game was that players were playing for their jobs as there would have been no guarantee that the players on the losing team would have been retained due to the big drop in income that came with relegation.
Being relegated from a full time league to a semi pro one meant that the consequences of relegation from Super League could have been too severe for a club without a backer to help them out. The stakes for playing that one game were IMO too high. It could well have convinced the RFL even more that they were doing the right thing in introducing franchises.
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