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Roosters to win 30 - 12

'sans' means 'without'....moron.

It was a serious question, Wigan without Tomkins, how will they get on in this game, against the best club team in the world.

It wasn't wrongly capitalised, I was wittily changing the club name from Wigan Warriors to Wigan Sans Tomkins. A bit like Wigan Saint Patricks if you will.

I incorrectly assumed the readers of the forum would know that 'sans' meant without.

I was clearly wrong.

you?

Aren't they only the best club team in the World if they win the WCC?

Only if the NRL team wins it. If the Super League team wins it then it's just a meaningless pre-season distraction.

Im a Wigan fan but must say i think we will be looking at a tonking, but i won't let that ruin what should be a great test and experience for the players. I think the rooster will just have to many big players and will over power a very young a light wigan pack.

im actually laughing at this, i got it straight away

bien fait que l'homme

ROOSTERS!!!!

Couldn't care less who wins, just cant wait for the game.

I fear the Roosters may win very comfortably, but hope I'm wrong. A good close game in Oz would be great for the competition.

I really do hope Wigan win. In fact I hope Wigan win comfortably. I think Sky would absolutely love, and would pay handsomely for an expanded yearly WCC, and that really could be big enough to take the game to the next level (if we were able to get a WCC big enough, they may even be prepared to share 1 game per round with FTA to act as advertising for them, as they did with ITV and the Champions League) the NRL are the reticent party in this because they don’t think we would compete and as such the competition would struggle. A comfortable Wigan win against an NRL glamour club, in their own Back Yard would be a fantastic start to changing that. For one day and one day only, and ill probably need a shower and some bleach after, but ill be a cherry and white.

Is it on Sky?

I'd absolutely love an extended WCC, but with the timings of both seasons I really can't see it happening unless it is October/November, at the expense of an international competition. I think the best we'll get is the proposed 3rd v 3rd, 2nd v 2nd, 1st v 1st over one weekend.

Cant see past a big win for the Roosters, but a win for wigan would at least open the door a little to an expanded WCC.
How should the teams be decided for the expansion? League position or playoff semi finalists?

If it was 4 teams from each competition, then Grand finalists, league leaders/minor premiers and challenge cup winners (obvs SL only), then league placings if one team qualifies through multiple routes.

So this year would be Wigan, Warrington, Huddersfield and Leeds from SL and Sydney, Manly, Souths and Melbourne from NRL.

That’s what we are getting next year, and over the next five years(every other year) as kind of a tester, but i agree i think it needs to be in october/november. I think if it is well attended and well viewed then we would go for a proper tournament. If there was the will it could be fitted in.

my way of fitting it in would be to play it in whichever country is hosting the international tournament that year. Move the end of the season back one week and Beginning the week after the GF’s (which should be played the same weekend) in 2011 for instance the NRL GF was the 2nd of Oct and the 4 nations started the 28th of Oct. So move that back a week and it is played 25th of Sept, Melbourne and Brisbane could fly to the UK 18th of Sept. Nz and Manly would fly to the uk 27th Sept. Split in to two groups where you only play the 2 overseas sides.
1st Oct We would have Leeds (1st) V Brisbane (4th), St’s(2nd) v Melbourne(3rd) Melbourne and Brisbane having been in the UK 2 weeks at this point.
7th Oct We would have Warrington (3rd) v NZ (2nd) and Wigan (4th) Manly (1st) NZ and Manly having been in the Uk 2 weeks at this point
15th a super weekend with 2 double headers with the fixtures reversed. So Leeds v Melbourne, Sts v Brisbane. And Wire Manly, Wigan NZ.
Top two in each group go through to semi finals played on 22nd and 23rd.
Final on the 29th
4 Nations begins one week later on the 5th Nov. Fits in 11 extra games, but a maximum of 4 per club and only extends the season by a week.

Ambitious ....

I really don't think you could fit both an extended WCC and a full international tournament, not properly anyway. I'd work on a 5 year cycle where the 5th year is the WCC, after a WC year. I know the development of international RL is important but as long as we only have 3 competitive international teams the end of season competions become stale IMO, plus there would be plenty of interest in a WCC in both hemispheres.

In terms of structure, I'd make it so each SL team played each NRL team once, followed by semi finals and a final. Something like:

NRL 1 – NRL Champions (Pool A)
NRL 2 – NRL Runner Up (Pool B)
NRL 3 – Minor Premiers (A)
NRL 4 – Next-Highest League Position (B)
SL 1 – Super League Champions (B)
SL 2 – Super League Runner Up (A)
SL 3 – League Leaders (B)
SL 4 – Challenge Cup Winners (A)
(Next-Highest League Position if a team qualifies via multiple criteria)

Week 1
• SL1 v NRL1/ SL2 v NRL2/ SL3 v NRL3/ SL4 v NRL4

Week 2
• SL1 v NRL2/ SL2 v NRL3/ SL3 v NRL4/ SL4 v NRL1

Week 3
• SL1 v NRL3/ SL2 v NRL4/ SL3 v NRL 1/ SL4 v NRL2

Week 4
• SL1 v NRL 4/ SL2 v NRL1/ SL3 v NRL2/ SL4 v NRL3

Week 5
• Winner Pool A v Runner Up Pool B
• Winner Pool B v Runner Up Pool A

Week 6
• Final

I agree it should replace the internationals on alternate years

possibly so. I was using the 2011 post GF positions though so there was some semblence to reality.