NO NO AND NO

[uTranslation[/u: A 10 team SL doesn't provide enough whipping boy SL rabble opposition for Leeds Rhinos to flat-track bully during the regular season.

yep a ten team sl is future for European RL.i would let it be known that this is the direction we're going in and it will be introduced in 2017

Catalan,Toulouse, 1 more French club.
London.
wigan
warrington
st helens
leeds
hull
huddersfield

That would give the RFL/RLEF £4.5 million ish to assist london and the two new french clubs with there development for 3 or 5 years,after that they're on there own, and the money then goes towards assisting new franchises from any new areas that come forward.

just so people don't get me wrong i would love for all the clubs in super league to be profitable and competing but they just aren't and the longer it goes on the longer it will take to fix.

Don't forget to retain the Top 8 play-off system in a 10 team SL comp. It's important to maintain the interest and intensity of all SL clubs throughout the regular season.

That is going too far. Salford need a spot so Koukash can spend his money, and so do Hull KR,

I would have:

[iWigan
St Helens
Warrington
Salford

Leeds
Bradford
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield

London

Catalans
Toulouse[/i

That is 12 clubs, which is a realistic number for 2015.

However we shold work to expand in France and southern England and Wales over the coming years.


We go to 14 clubs with [iAvignon/Vaucluse [/iand [iSheffield[/i in 2018

We go to 16 with [iLondon II [/iand [iNorth Wales[/i in 2018


[uA 16 team Super League:[/u

[iWigan
St Helens
Warrington
Salford

Leeds
Bradford
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield

Sheffield

London Broncos
London Storm

North Wales Crusaders

Catalans
Toulouse
Avignon[/i




We go to 18 with [iParis[/i and [iSouth Wales [/iin 2021

We go to 20 with [iLyon[/i and [iOxford[/i or [iCoventry[/i in 2024

We go to 24 with [iOxford[/i or [iCoventry [/i, [iMille[/i, [iNorth Italy[/i and [iBarcelona[/i in 2027


Once we reach 24 each club plays each other club once, with home and away draws alternating each year.

welcome back William, we missed you.

Thanks.

It was never my intention to waste 6 weeks on these forums while there was a RLWC tournament on my doorstep to attend.

I suspect my next attendance fix at pro-level will be down under in 2014. It won't be Super League, that's for sure.

I agree about Koucash but he needs to deliver before he should be trusted,if they grow off and on the field between now and 2016 ,then make SLE an 11 team comp.

HKR arent needed.What is needed in that region is a school of excellence and 20k plus packed in the KC every other week.bradford arent needed for the same reason with regards to leeds & huddersfield

Its not ten full time teams it would be 20 over two divisions with p&r

That increases the number of players and creates an elite whilst creating the ambition to be part of that elite for those both inside and out.

27 fixtures, 13 home games plus magic. Top 5 play off.

SL2 would get access to about £600k with diluting SL1 or any extra Sky/TV income, and consist of bottom 4 current SL, 5 Championship and Toulouse. Min standards of ground must apply ie be fit for SL, and a min salary spend of £1m to a max of 50%

2x12/3x8 is better than we have but 2x10 makes complete sense

I know the end of the RL world has been nigh for decades, but... I am concerned that something has to give soon. The flat cap was set more than a decade ago and hasn't gone up since. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... -1.8m.html That is (very roughly), something like 30% cut in real terms. Despite keeping such a tight rein on labour costs, most clubs continue to struggle or rely heavily on benefactors. If clubs and the sport as a whole can't raise more revenue, an adjustment needs to be made. None of the options are particularly palatable, but nor is stumbling from one crisis to another.

I know the end of the RL world has been nigh for decades, but... I am concerned that something has to give soon. The flat cap was set more than a decade ago and hasn't gone up since. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... -1.8m.html That is (very roughly), something like 30% cut in real terms. Despite keeping such a tight rein on labour costs, most clubs continue to struggle or rely heavily on benefactors. If clubs and the sport as a whole can't raise more revenue, an adjustment needs to be made. None of the options are particularly palatable, but nor is stumbling from one crisis to another.

It would if we had anywhere near 20 clubs capable of being SL clubs. But we don’t, so the 2nd tier would just become a rebranded championship and the 4 teams demoted from SL would fall to the level of the 6 they join.

No it wouldn't, it would be a vibrant FT comp populated by the ambitious. The championship is a part time comp that is becoming more reliant on SL shirt tails to field teams whilst its crowds dwindle as there is nothing meaningful to play for.

The promised new structures for 2015 allowed the ambitious clubs to generate the cash to improve the squad for 2014, Fax, Fev and Leigh have upped the ante already, with the grounds at Fax and Leigh already much better equipped for SL than those they would strive to replace in 2016.

Elite must be elite.

and the likes of Leigh, Halifax and Fev are in no way whatsoever set up to be elite. If Leigh were to be promoted in 2016 they would be no more set up to be elite than they were in 2005.

Leigh, Fax or Fev are nto much better equiped than anyone except London (at the moment) They are three clubs in three areas which have never been able to sustain full time sport. sticking them in 'super league lite' isnt going to change that

If the only meaning in the lower levels is to get out of the lower levels then they are already beyond hope.

If you weren't so clueless I would respond, instead I will buy a big issue and think of you.

If you werent so clueless you would be able to .

Disregarding the calamity which is engulfing the current "elite" league I agree entirely with this statement. Whilst I may scoff and barrack "Super" League clubs like Bradford and more recently Salford and Wakefield, I do not think it a worthwhile endeavour for current Championship chairmen to aspire to get out of the Championship and hope for the best in SL. The awful state of the bottom half of "Super" League should be a warning to anyone with half a brain and only a couple of million quid that constantly languishing outside a play-off spot in SL is going to quickly soak up any spare cash from a half-hearted benefactor. Why would anyone want that?

Concentrate on making The Championships a viable semi-pro comp. Prove the worth of their administration and their ability to grow the game in their community. Featherstone are doing a sterling job in this regard. What is wrong with what they have achieved over the last four years? Why would you jeopardize that for a place at a table which quite frankly is half occupied by retarded monkeys and complete basket cases?

Cut to 12 and rename the comp SUPER 12

That's why a full time SL2 would work, the gap between FT and PT is too great to make a quantum leap, the same for the reverse with a current SL club reforming at the bottom with no guaranteed way of getting back.
Do your numbers, £1m squad in SL2 will be £650k above what Fax/Leigh spend now - the sky deal proposed would bridge all but £100k of that, if that and much more cant be generated then that club should not be putting itself forward.
We have a situation probable in 2014 where Bradford, Cas, Wakey and London would probably not be spending over £1m in the elite comp.

I decided to get him a brew as well

What you don’t seem to get is that a contraction of SL and this SL 1 and SL 2 you are banging on about doesn’t reduce that gap, it increases it.

And yes Fev, Fax and Leigh will receive an extra 650k in funding, The 4 who are relegated would lose about £800k in funding.

The difference between London/Salford and Bradford in playing strength last year was huge, Fax, Leigh, or Fev on £800k less funding than they were aren’t going to be any closer and if we change to 2 leagues of 10, that’s the level they need to be at. 2 leagues of 10 would mean the team promoted from SL2 would need to be the standard Bradford were last year to stay up. To think any of those teams would be anywhere near that level is laughable.

more like you was shocked by how well the rugby league world cup and attendances went.

Cas are spending 1.6m. And are moving significantly forward off the field after several years of underperformance. We have a squad of 28 players, all of which have played in the SL or NRL.

I wish people would stop making poor assumptions and do some research before making claims.

Well, if it ain't the [i"I only attend RLWC games or subscribe to Premier Sports if it's half price"[/i merchant from Shuddersfield.

How the hell are you?

should of put more of that 1.6m into getting a new ground. Rather than making false promises to get a Super league license