Chrisy Heighington anyone?? NRL legend and proud englishman!

Bit of fun with squad numbers attached, also 23 depends if he's English next year or not.

1-Sam Tomkins
2-Ryan Hall
3-Jack Reed
4-Ryan Atkins
5-Tom Briscoe
6-Gareth Widdop
7-Rangi Chase
8-Sam Burgess
9-James Roby
10-James Graham
11-Ben Westwood
12-Gareth Ellis
13-Sean O'Loughlin
14-Danny Houghton
15-Adrian Morley
16-Chris Hill
17-Gareth Hock
18-Stefan Ratchford
19-Josh Charnley
20-Eorl Crabtree
21-Garreth Carvell
22-Ben Harrison
23-Willie Manu/Andy Lynch

Tomkins
Hall
Atkins
Watkins
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Carvell
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess

Houghton
Hock
Mossop
Hill

Reserves: Hardacre, Reed, Ratchford, Briscoe, Crabtree, Morley, McClorum, L Burgess, O'Loughlin, Myler

Hall and Reed worked well on the right, would imagine moving to the left would help there partnership.

Right - Watkins and charnely

Backs:

Sam Tomkins, Josh Charnley (Wigan), Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Zak Hardaker (Leeds), Jack Reed (Brisbane), Ryan Atkins, Chris Riley (Warrington)

Halves:

Gareth Widdop (Melbourne), Jonny Lomax (St Helens), Danny Brough (Huddersfield), Kevin Sinfield, Rob Burrow (Leeds), James Roby (St Helens, Captain)

Forwards:

Gareth Hock, Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), Adrian Morley, Ben Westwood, Ben Harrison, Chris Hill (Warrington), James Graham (Canterbury), Sam Burgess (South Sydney), Gareth Ellis, Chris Heighington (Wests), Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield)

1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Goulding
4 Reed
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 Brough
8 Morley
9 Roby
10 Burgess
11 Hock
12 Westwood
13 Lockers

14 Graham
15 Hill
16 Lomax
17 Hardaker

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Atkins
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. Chase
7. Brough
8. Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Manu
12. Westwood
13. Ellis

14. Sinfield
15. Hock
16. Mossop
17. Lynch

18. Carvell
19. O'Loughlin
20. Lomax
21. Crabtree
22. Briscoe
23. Hardaker

Widdop, Reed, Heighington all notably around there too. Could have likes of Hill and Larne Patrick; Josh Jones, Daryl Clark, Liam Watts, Joe Westerman, Scott Taylor, Yeaman, McIlorum, Danny Houghton, Tickle, Luke George, Luke Robinson, Kieran Dixon, Dan Sarginson and Craig Huby all around and knocking on the door too.

I think it's time to stop using the tried and tested likes of Wilkin, JJB, Morley and so forth.

Chris Riley over Tom Briscoe



There are 3 English wingers who are a cut above the rest and that is Briscoe, Hall and Charnley. If I were to pick the two, it would be Briscoe and Hall. Charnley is a top winger but plays in easily the best team in the league and has many walk in tries. Like I said he's very good but not as good as the other two.

Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Atkins
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
S. Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Is my 13, squad members

Houghton
Lynch
Hock
L. Burgess
Watts
Hardaker
Hill
Watkins
Charnley
Farrell
Carvell
Ratchford

No doubt I've missed others.

anyone who leaves out Burrow is an idiot. The only better attacking runner in the northern hemisphere is Tomkins.

I'd go:-

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Ben Westwood
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Lee Mossop
15. Chris Hill
16. Gareth Hock
17. Andy Lynch

Danny Houghton & Daryl Clark are both better hookers.

23 man squad:

Backs:
Tomkins, Hall, Reed, Atkins, Charnley, Briscoe, Hardaker

Halves:
Chase, Dobson, Brough

Hookers:
Roby, Houghton, Clark

Forwards:
Hill, Graham, S. Burgess, L. Burgess, Mossop, Manu, Ellis, Westwood, O'Loughlin, Crabtree

Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Atkins
Charnley
Chase
Dobson
Graham
Roby
S. Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

L. Burgess
Houghton
Crabtree
Manu

could be a dark horse if he has a great year at saints but alex walmsley he is a great talent give it 18 months him and chris hill will be english props with larne patrick and mossop

I'd throw Chris Green into that dark horse bracket too, maybe not next year but certainly in the future. Peter Gentle thinks very highly of him and he knows a thing or two about what makes an international player.

Mossop
Watts
Taylor
Green
Patrick
Hill

Along with the current young stars such as the Burgess brothers, LMS will be the forwards for the future of England RL.

1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Brough

8. Graham
9. Roby
10. S. Burgess
11. Hock
12. Westwood
13. Ellis

14. Burrow
15. Hill
16. Manu
17. Mossop

1st Line-up:-
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Ryan Atkins
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Kevin Sinfield
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin
Bench:-
14. Rob Burrow
15. Eorl Crabtree
16. Gareth Hock
17. Lee Mossop

2nd Line-up:-
1. Zak Hardaker
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Michael Shenton
4. Darrell Goudling
5. Ben Jones-Bishop
6. Danny McGuire
7. Jonny Lomax
8. Gareth Carvell
9. Danny Houghton
10. Craig Huby
11. Elliot Whitehead
12. Danny Tickle
13. Jon Wilkin
Bench:-
14. Daryl Clark
15. Larne Patrick
16. Chris Hill
17. Kyle Amor

Team of young wildcard's:-
1. Greg Eden
2. Kieran Dixon
3. Josh Jones
4. Ben Crooks
5. Tom Makinson
6. Gareth O'Brien
7. Joe Mellor
8. Nathan Massey
9. Adam Milner
10. Scott Taylor
11. Chris Green
12. John Bateman
13. Stevie Ward
Bench:-
14. Paul McShane
15. Jonathan Walker
16. Tom Burgess
17. Liam Farrell

This is the frustrating thing, we have some top quality players and i genuinely believe we have a squad capable of winning the WC. A forward pack of Graham Roby Burgess Hock & Westwood is frightening! Our back line is also looking exciting, Briscoe, Broughton, Charnley, Hall, Tomkins, Watkins.

The problem we've got is Mcnamara keeps picking players who have proved time & again they aren't good enough at international level, yet still keep getting picked because of what they have achieved in the past AT CLUB LEVEL.

Mcnamara has to forget the likes of Mcguire, Sinfield,, JJB & Wilkin. Their achievements at club level has been excellent. But they have never done it at international, what makes him think they are going to do it at 30+. They're not good enough. I would rather have a John Bateman or Stevie Ward than Wilkin or JJB.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Reed
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Crabtree
15. Hill/Mossop
16. Hock
17. Burrow

18. Ratchford
19. Briscoe
20. Watkins
21. Chase
22. Hill/Mossop
23. Carvell

Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Atkins
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Hock
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Mossop
Hill
Westwood
L. Burgess/LMS/Patrick/Taylor

For once, I do actually think we have decent strength in depth apart from full back and the halves. Lomax hasn't kicked on to be the international 7 everyone was hoping, Chase could fit in there but his off the cuff style nullifies Tomkins' threat from the back IMO. Sinfield is never an international 6 (although McNamara will pick him there). Players like Myler and Smith need to improve and become more consistent and rounded to be considered.

1. Hardaker
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby (c)
10. S. Burgess
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Crabtree
15. Hock
16. Burrow
17. Manu

We need experience in the side but you could argue that Graham Roby and Burgess provide that now having been there for a number of years.

Tomkins
Charnley/Briscoe
Watkins
Reed
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
S Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin capt

Subs from:

Hock
Hill
Mossop
Luke Burgess
Charnley/Briscoe
Houghton/McIlorum
Crabtree
Chase/Matty Smith (been excellent so far for Wigan)
Hardaker
Farrell

1. S Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Lomax
8. S Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Hock
13. Ellis

14. Burrow
15. Hill
16. Crabtree
17. Manu

18. Hardaker
19. Mossop
20. Atkins
21. O'Loughlin
22. L Burgess
23. Brough

Depending on how he performs next season, I can see Jack Hughes pushing for a place. Cant remember him having a bad game this season, and he's got a lot of potential.

This is the reason we have the Knights. Unless he's a Chris Hill style revelation on the SL stage, let him gain international experience with other youngsters who also have plenty of potential. Can you honestly see him ahead of a fit Ellis, Westwood, Hock & Manu (if he's English next year) for example?

Spot on. He's a prospect, but he's behind our own Hock, O'Loughlin and Farrell for back row spots at our club, never mind the country.