It's still a lawful legitimate protest, like it or not. It's how it's done in a democracy. If we outlawed these protest we would not really be a democracy.

Could be good press

"RL FANS SAY NO TO RACISM (and punch some racist fricks to prove it!)"

I agree it's lawful, as for legitimate, thats open to debate.

13 EDL members against 13 players from any NWC league side, i'd buy a ticket for that!

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 869327.ece Wonder who the 'guest speaker' is

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 869327.ece Wonder who the 'guest speaker' is

I don't see all the fuss, the EDL say that they are a multi racial group that oppose radical islamification of the country. If there multi racial and oppose racism I can't see how they can be classed as racist. From what I understand is that their main grievance was against radical Muslims abusing our troops home coming.

Most of the trouble makers seen to come from the counter demonstrators. It was certainly them rioting outside that mosque in London the other week.

Angela

i don't have any time for the student leftys but the edl are at best a bunch of football hoolies with connections with several casual firms and several with criminal convictions. if thats all we got to represent english culture then im glad im in wales.

I don't think they represent anyone but themselves. But I do believe they have a right to protest, them or anyone. Thats what makes us a democracy.

er no it isnt. the right to elect our legislators is what make us a representative democracy. no-one has the absolute right to gather in large numbers in the street, its entirely and always has been on sufferance of the authorities.
the fact is that the edl is a gang of violent criminals who are determined to stir up trouble. the problem is that there is plenty of fuel for the fire in this country.

A democracy is not the right to close off a whole city centre or to attempt to stir up racial tention in a very multi-cultural city.

I thought it was the police who had closed off a whole city centre.

And why was that required? You ARE joking??

How angry are you?


I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question as you seem to already know the ins and outs of today's goings on.

Just to reiterate SBR's earlier post: this thread is about the effect of today's events on the GF and travel. People who want to discuss the EDL itself can do so on the Sin Bin thread: ie, on the board for non RL discussions.

At the risk of incurring the wrath of the moderators... The EDL was set up by people who are also involved with the BNP. That should tell you all you need to know about these people.

Hopefully everyone got to the game unscathed. It's easy enough to avoid the Piccadilly area to get to Old Trafford if you need to.

All protests involve disruption should all protests be banned then?

The authorities didn't ban the protest from what I understand. The right to assembly in protest is a basic right in a democracy. If you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

Why do you look like Patrick McGoohan in a sandstorm?

I've just done a little research and the EDL clearly state on their website that the are non racial and against any racial discrimination.

The BNP have classed the EDL as a proscribed organisation and have publicly said that they want nothing to do with them.

They would say that, wouldn't they?

You're wide of the mark actually calling them racists. Have you any idea what they are actually protesting about?

Ill informed halfwit Neanderthals would be a more fitting description.

Wonder when this will get locked/moved to the sin bin.

No they don't, certainly not to todays degree and of course all protests shouldn't be banned.
EDF, a gang of football thugs and racists, have brought violence and trouble everytime they have gathered.
Everyone should be against extremists, be they muslim, christian, racist or whatever.

I think, now that the Grand Final is over, there's no further need to discuss this here. I mainly left it until now in case there were people travelling to Manchester who weren't aware of the potential issues.

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