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| Samoa v Fiji ill be a fair game to decide who is currently the 4th best team in the world. I think the right two sides have made it through.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Of course that would obviously be your response if leeds were playing cas and ryan bailey took at the cas number 6 and 7 off the ball 4 times with a late shoulder charge.
You would be happy for that to go down.
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Where was the clear sending off tonight ??? Leave the players on the pitch and deal with it after the game unless it's a clear cut incident.... That's the way the game should be played.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Let the game be played the way both teams wanted, it seems the main criticism of him is he hasn't run around with a red card in his hand and ruined the game'"
Listen, I'm normally the first asking for a return for a bit of biff and crunching tackles that SL seems to lack these days, but some of those hits in the first half were shocking.
For what it's worth, there was a similar outcry on here after the Fiji Ireland game but I personally didn't think that compared, the Fijians were just hard, Samoa were thuggish.
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| Quote ="salford1970"I had my playing days ended by a cheap shot merchant ( came in late after I had been tackled so I think i have the right to have an opinion on this), Compressed spine (15 years later I still have back trouble because of it) and all for a cheap and late hit whilst I was actually on the ground, by a thug who knew I couldn't defend myself from the hit due to my body position so don't be a turd and say it is brave and noble, it isn't. Being hit and nailed hard in a fair manner is acceptable, hitting someone late and cowardly is another.'"
Did you think about the risks of playing rugby league before you went on the pitch ???
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| Quote ="salford1970"I had my playing days ended by a cheap shot merchant ( came in late after I had been tackled so I think i have the right to have an opinion on this), Compressed spine (15 years later I still have back trouble because of it) and all for a cheap and late hit whilst I was actually on the ground, by a thug who knew I couldn't defend myself from the hit due to my body position so don't be a turd and say it is brave and noble, it isn't. Being hit and nailed hard in a fair manner is acceptable, hitting someone late and cowardly is another.'"
Too right. I thought tackle from behind was terrible, very late and could have resulted in a nasty injury.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Where was the clear sending off tonight ??? Leave the players on the pitch and deal with it after the game unless it's a clear cut incident.... That's the way the game should be played.'"
I'll refer you to salford's post above. If you think that's the way the game should be played - cheap shots putting players at risk of injury, I would say you are clueless.
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| That pass from Baille at the end
I have never seen anything like that before, probably never will. One for the 'what happens next' segment of Question of Sport!
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"I'll refer you to salford's post above. If you think that's the way the game should be played - cheap shots putting players at risk of injury, I would say you are clueless.'"
No it's not and the Samoan will now be banned and probably miss the rest of the tournament, hardly got away with it has he.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"No it's not and the Samoan will now be banned and probably miss the rest of the tournament, hardly got away with it has he.'"
Let's hope so. But i wouldn't be suprised if it's just a slap on the wrist and a bag of gummy bears. We see plenty of cop out from the judiciary as well.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Let's hope so. But i wouldn't be suprised if it's just a slap on the wrist and a bag of gummy bears. We see plenty of cop out from the judiciary as well.'"
He'll get 2-3 matches IMO
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Did you think about the risks of playing rugby league before you went on the pitch???'"
Of course i did, what I didn't reckon on was a world class pr1ck hitting me through the shoulder whilst I was on my haunches regaining my feet after the tackle had been complete. His captain got him off the pitch before the place erupted (it was a friendly see?) and as there had been no malice but a good and hard and fair game to that point why would I expect not be hit in such a p155 poor manner?
Every time you play the there is a chance of injury, that is what makes it such a tough sport to play but what you shouldn't expect is to be attacked in by a C.u.nT on the pitch.
As alluded to earlier, is Ryan Bailey a hard but fair player? No he isn't , he is capable of cheap shots, as is Westwood (cowardly punching in the Grand Final) as is Hock or all the other players who like to be thuggish etc. When Sean Long got belted by Willie Mason in the Tri Nations should Mason have stayed on the field because "it's a mans game, played by men" or would it have been right to send him off there and then.
Ironically, in days gone by Red cards were shown, it is only now in the SL era that it seems to be absolutely the last thing to do. I don't care about 17 v 17, if a player wants to commit an offence that is a red card then it should be so. I think if Perenara would have used the Yellow after the second hit tonight we wouldn't have got the third hit and if we did and he used a red who wouldn've argued wit his refereeing? It was his inability to put an on the spot sanction in place that cause so much annoyance.
You unfortunately are just someone who lacks the intellect to understand between fair and foul. I pity you.
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| Sorry but I loved that, shame it ran away at the end but I really did enjoy the rough physical stuff, bit like going back to the eighties.
I've watched most games now and the team I have a soft spot has been the Samoans, think I'll even get a Samoan jersey, could anyone point me to a place I could purchase one?
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"No it's not and the Samoan will now be banned and probably miss the rest of the tournament, hardly got away with it has he.'"
Lose the halfbacks and you lose structure. The Samoans set out to target the french halves in a thuggish, cowardly way and it paid off for them plus the guy whose sole purpose is to stop this failed miserably. Yes they got away with it. Shame really as they probably had it in them to win fair and square.
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| It's like listening to Eddie and Stevo in here, game was physical and tough, everyone is ok, they all shook hands after the game and the best team won. Move on.
The players will always play the ref, if he doesn't deal with things they'll carry on, the French should have just reciprocated and threw in a couple themself.
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| Quote ="Mystic Yed"It's like listening to Eddie and Stevo in here, game was physical and tough, everyone is ok, they all shook hands after the game and the best team won. Move on.
The players will always play the ref, if he doesn't deal with things they'll carry on, the French should have just reciprocated and threw in a couple themself.'"
Great idea! That'd double the chance of a player sustaining a serious injury, which is just the sort of publicity our sport lacks...
Disgraceful tactics by the Samoans, and the ref bottled it early on, which just encouraged more late cheap shots.
Actually better for England, IMO, to face France in the QF, but at times tonight that was just unpleasant to see.
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| Get over yourself
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| Quote ="salford1970"Of course i did, what I didn't reckon on was a world class pr1ck hitting me through the shoulder whilst I was on my haunches regaining my feet after the tackle had been complete. His captain got him off the pitch before the place erupted (it was a friendly see?) and as there had been no malice but a good and hard and fair game to that point why would I expect not be hit in such a p155 poor manner?
Every time you play the there is a chance of injury, that is what makes it such a tough sport to play but what you shouldn't expect is to be attacked in by a C.u.nT on the pitch.
As alluded to earlier, is Ryan Bailey a hard but fair player? No he isn't , he is capable of cheap shots, as is Westwood (cowardly punching in the Grand Final) as is Hock or all the other players who like to be thuggish etc. When Sean Long got belted by Willie Mason in the Tri Nations should Mason have stayed on the field because "it's a mans game, played by men" or would it have been right to send him off there and then.
Ironically, in days gone by Red cards were shown, it is only now in the SL era that it seems to be absolutely the last thing to do. I don't care about 17 v 17, if a player wants to commit an offence that is a red card then it should be so. I think if Perenara would have used the Yellow after the second hit tonight we wouldn't have got the third hit and if we did and he used a red who wouldn've argued wit his refereeing? It was his inability to put an on the spot sanction in place that cause so much annoyance.
You unfortunately are just someone who lacks the intellect to understand between fair and foul. I pity you.'"
Ignoring the petty insult at the end (which seems to be the case when having a differing opinion on here)....
In RL as in all aspects of life are w@nkers which does not excuse what happened to you however once you are on a RL field your putting yourself in danger. If you were a builder... You know when you go to work there's a chance of an accident that could change your life. If your a boxer you go into a fight knowing it could be the last time your able to walk or worse. It's RL and sometimes late challenges happen and sometimes they are mistimed, sometimes deliberate..... Bosc copped a few shots tonight but ill wager he's given some too in the past, it's a tough game played by tough men who choose the career they want and they know the risks, let's not water down our product.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Ignoring the petty insult at the end (which seems to be the case when having a differing opinion on here)....'"
It was deserved, you belittled what I said when I told you a cheap shot merchant had caused me years of pain
Quote ="Cas Till I Die" If you were a builder... You know when you go to work there's a chance of an accident that could change your life. If your a boxer you go into a fight knowing it could be the last time your able to walk or worse. It's RL and sometimes late challenges happen and sometimes they are mistimed, sometimes deliberate.'"
Where do builders get cheap shots? A terrible analogy. Where do boxers get someone attacking them from an position they can't defend (the boxing ref comes in to stop a pugilist that is getting battered or a towel gets thrown in)
Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Bosc copped a few shots tonight but ill wager he's given some too in the past, '"
Are you saying the end justifies the mean just because someone may have done the same sometime in the past despite there being absolutely no evidence to back up your speculation?
Quote ="Cas Till I Die"it's a tough game played by tough men who choose the career they want and they know the risks, let's not water down our product.'"
You actually paraphrased my summation of you as a defence of the brutality shown. Bravo (Slow hand clap)
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| Quote ="salford1970"It was deserved, you belittled what I said when I told you a cheap shot merchant had caused me years of pain
Where do builders get cheap shots? A terrible analogy. Where do boxers get someone attacking them from an position they can't defend (the boxing ref comes in to stop a pugilist that is getting battered or a towel gets thrown in)
Are you saying the end justifies the mean just because someone may have done the same sometime in the past despite there being absolutely no evidence to back up your speculation?
You actually paraphrased my summation of you as a defence of the brutality shown. Bravo (Slow hand clap)'"
It's obvious your still too bitter about the incident to have a normal grown up discussion without resorting to petty insults and twisting words, may i suggest some form of counseling ???
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| Quote ="Mystic Yed"It's like listening to Eddie and Stevo in here, game was physical and tough, everyone is ok, they all shook hands after the game and the best team won. Move on.
The players will always play the ref, if he doesn't deal with things they'll carry on, the French should have just reciprocated and threw in a couple themself.'"
There were hits to the head and neck on smaller players. The tactic appeared deliberate and cynical. Yes, rugby league is a tough sport and this was a tough match but during the first half Samoa didn't play tough, they played cowardly. Big men hitting late and high on smaller men? That's cowardly, and dirty, and I hope they all get bans.
The second half was much cleaner by Samoa and it was just as tough.
And you don't know whether everyone is ok by the way. I wouldn't be surprised if France had no play makers fit to play on Saturday.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"If your [sic a boxer you go into a fight knowing it could be the last time your [sic able to walk or worse. It's RL and sometimes late challenges happen and sometimes they are mistimed, sometimes deliberate..... '"
Have you ever seen the film Million Dollar Baby? It's a good film, you should watch it.
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| The core skills of the French are very poor at times. Too many passes gone to ground and tackling techniques atrocious. Great spirit but missed opportunity for them - they should have had that one.
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| Personally I enjoyed the game, and just like Eddie and Stevo, people dwell on the negative, I'll leave it at that seeing as the thread is going in circles.
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