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| Quote ="Leaguefan"The fact that overseas players are being signed should be a cause for concern, but myopia is alive and well in RL as a lot of posts show.
Slowly, slowly................'"
In what way?
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| Quote ="Bertie"AFAIK, the quota rules are exactly the same for every super league .'"
Wrong. Hka have a special dispensation
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
I think it's the players that have the dispensation.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
See Barnicle's reply GF.
Face it, Fulcrubronquins Experiment have had more help over the years then any (real) club in the history of SL. Shouldn't even be in the league IMO.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
Happily given by the RFL , so they obviously understand why it is needed
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"I think it's the players that have the dispensation.'"
You may do, but you would be wrong.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"You may do, but you would be wrong.'"
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Quote ="JB Down Under"yep every season! Call me selfish if you like but if at the start of every season someone said to me:
your choice is
A) Have more English players in your squad this year but finish 13th and have diminishing crowds
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B) Have more foreign players and finish in the play offs with increasing crowds
I know which one I'd be taking every time!'"
Indeed. But Hull KR have more foreign players and decreasing crowds (for the second year in a row), so it's not that straightforward.
www.slstats.org/t15/Hull+Kingston+Rovers/
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Quote ="JB Down Under"yep every season! Call me selfish if you like but if at the start of every season someone said to me:
your choice is
A) Have more English players in your squad this year but finish 13th and have diminishing crowds
or
B) Have more foreign players and finish in the play offs with increasing crowds
I know which one I'd be taking every time!'"
Indeed. But Hull KR have more foreign players and decreasing crowds (for the second year in a row), so it's not that straightforward.
www.slstats.org/t15/Hull+Kingston+Rovers/
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Having your average crowd fall be 3.74% over two years and during a very bad recession doesn't sound that bad a performance.
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Having your average crowd fall be 3.74% over two years and during a very bad recession doesn't sound that bad a performance.
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| we'll just go out and sign English players, if the RFL ever grow some balls and actually act to reduce overseas players.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"You may do, but you would be wrong.'"
Ah, so when Vella and Galea retire Hull KR will be free to sign two more Aussies if they want?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"You may do, but you would be wrong.'"
Interesting quote from Makali Aizue regarding special dispensation:
"I feel at home at this club. I am so grateful to the RFL for giving [ume[/u special dispensation," he said.
Full story here: [urlhttp://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_4117072,00.html[/url
That sort of suggests the dispensation is given to the player and not the club.
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"To take advantage of the extension of the exemption a [uplayer[/u must apply to the RFL to be ‘federation trained’ at the end of their current contract. They also must have registered with the RFL prior to 1 February 2008, the date when the club trained rules were introduced".
Full thread.
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?t=438174[/url
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here you go fella,
[iThe Crusaders will also be granted special dispensation over the overseas quota in order to make them instantly competitive, with Wood making it clear recently-promoted sides Hull KR and Castleford - as well as the Catalans - were also given exemptions.[/i
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... _Snap.html
this quota exemption meant that at the time the quota rules changed, Hull KR had more overseas players signed, than other teams could have.
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here you go fella,
[iThe Crusaders will also be granted special dispensation over the overseas quota in order to make them instantly competitive, with Wood making it clear recently-promoted sides Hull KR and Castleford - as well as the Catalans - were also given exemptions.[/i
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... _Snap.html
this quota exemption meant that at the time the quota rules changed, Hull KR had more overseas players signed, than other teams could have.
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"here you go fella,
[iThe Crusaders will also be granted special dispensation over the overseas quota in order to make them instantly competitive, with Wood making it clear recently-promoted sides =#FF0000Hull KR and Castleford - as well as the Catalans - were also given exemptions.[/i
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... _Snap.html
this quota exemption meant that at the time the quota rules changed, Hull KR had more overseas players signed, than other teams could have.'"
And Castleford and Catalans , or are you suggesting HKR are alone in being given an exemption ?
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"here you go fella,
[iThe Crusaders will also be granted special dispensation over the overseas quota in order to make them instantly competitive, with Wood making it clear recently-promoted sides =#FF0000Hull KR and Castleford - as well as the Catalans - were also given exemptions.[/i
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... _Snap.html
this quota exemption meant that at the time the quota rules changed, Hull KR had more overseas players signed, than other teams could have.'"
And Castleford and Catalans , or are you suggesting HKR are alone in being given an exemption ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"And Castleford and Catalans , or are you suggesting HKR are alone in being given an exemption ?'"
how would i be suggesting Castleford and Catalans didnt get an exemption?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"how would i be suggesting Castleford and Catalans didnt get an exemption?'"
But you also didn't spend 59 pages arguing against it , did you ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"But you also didn't spend 59 pages arguing against it , did you ?'"
Neither are using it now. So it would be weird for me to be arguing against an exemption that Catalans and Castleford werent using. Catalans are currently at 8, Cas at 4.
If Hull KR were at 8 or 4 i wouldnt argue against their amount of overseas players.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Neither are using it now. So it would be weird for me to be arguing against an exemption that Catalans and Castleford werent using. Catalans are currently at 8, Cas at 4.
If Hull KR were at 8 or 4 i wouldnt argue against their amount of overseas players.'"
But the RFL obviously dont see a problem with it , and as the RFL cannot do any wrong in your eyes , then surely they have good reason to allow it , lets face it we wouldn't want all clubs treated the same would we ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"But the RFL obviously dont see a problem with it , and as the RFL cannot do any wrong in your eyes , then surely they have good reason to allow it , lets face it we wouldn't want all clubs treated the same would we ?'"
They obviously do, otherwise they wouldnt have changed the quota rules with expressed aim of forcing clubs to employ fewer overseas players.
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| If you stop employing overseas players and develop your youth you get results like this one
[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/australian-schoolboys-swept-by-poms/story-e6frexnr-1225969625309[/url
Any HKA academy lads in the squad? Not in the England one anyway
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