No ban. Club fine and a token fine from the RFL will be sufficient. The hysteria about Tomkins on here is ridiculous. Mind you, so is the assertion that he's world class. He's done nothing to show that yet - hopefully he will, and hopefully he'll stay in league.

People tend to ignore that side of him. I served him on many occasions working at starbucks, he is a very nice guy.

On the pitch he is arrogant and people only look at that, it is part of what makes him the best player in the country.

He shouldn't have done it but part of me is glad he did. I just can't make my mind up on the whole issue really.

Wigan and Sam have made a statement, as Cadoo says, case closed.

And for the record, Briers, Mathers, Myler, Eastmond, King etc. have all done the same and not got a ban... so why should Tomkins.

Ridiculous? I don't think so. He is clearly a once-in-a-generation talent and has consistently done things on the field that no other player can do. On that basis, you can certainly argue a case for him being world class - if he isn't, then who in the northern hemisphere is? What else could he do?

Or maybe you are one of those who can't make your mind up until someone has played 50 GB / Aus /NZ internationals? Get off the fence man!

As for his 2 fingers:

Takes a man to make an unreserved apology, and given the fact that it was Leeds morons' ape-like goading (when he was theoretically playing on their side) that wound him up and obviously got to him in the first place, they should let it go. Though being utter morons, they of course won't.

i suspect the morons who goaded him in leeds wont be at the lsv for the England Wales game,i also suspect his talents will be more appreciated in leigh.

Did ‘Chris Joynt’s voluntary tackle’ thread have a poll? This is certainly the most participated in poll I’ve seen on RLFANS. The hysteria over Sam Tomkins can only be good for our game surely?

The hysteria surrounding this incident is happening on a rl message board,the rest of the world doesn't care.
Real hysteria followed blood gate in ru.

Well done to him and Wigan. The RFL will take this into account in their decision.

In a strange way this may well be a springboard for him to move on and silence his critics with his skills rather than other antics.

I remember visiting Leigh as an away fan and seeing Tommy Martyn diffuse abuse by a piece of dazzling skill or a simple smile and chuckle.

Complete bull! You could say that banning ST is unfair on the rest of the Wigan team/club - why should they be punished for ST's personal stupidity? Wigan were the best team on Saturday and deserved the victory - there are dodgy ref calls in virtually all matches.

For bringing the game into disrepute he deserves a ban, same as Rooney got a ban for swearing into a sky camera.

Unfair on the rest of the team ?? That's like saying a player shouldn't get a ban for a spear tackle cos its unfair on the rest of the team. A bit of an odd point of view.

Dodgy calls by the ref should be debated, we all know they happen, its when they happen beyond normal that it warrants further debate and this match was both unusually important, nationally watched and dodgy decisions played a part in the result, so worthwhile commenting.
So your complete bull remark was complete Bull !

That's a bit simplistic, don't you think?

It's a team sport - his Chairman, Coach and Captain have a responsibility to manage and moderate his behaviour; when they fail, the whole organisation is vicariously liable, just as when he scores a try that wins a match, they all share in his success.

Of course he should, I've never said once I condone what he did.

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Sam tomkins has dishonored himself and dishonored the squad. I have tried to help him. But I have failed. I have failed because YOU have not helped me. YOU people, have not given Sam Tomkins the proper motivation! So, from now on, whenever Sam Tomkins s up, I will not punish him! I will punish all of YOU! And the way I see it ladies, you owe me for ONE JELLY DOUGHNUT! NOW, GET DOWN ON YOUR FACES! [/i

Precisely - I couldn't have put it better myself.

Now you'd better square your ass away and start ting me tiffany cufflinks, or I will DEFINITELY you up.

Only a suspended fine because he plays for Wigan, Wigan are the games ambassador in the RFL's eyes and anything Wigan do that's negative must be seen as trivial. I wish the RFL would crack down hard on idiots like Tomkins, Bailey and the violence/trouble at Cas or it's only going to get worse.

Or maybe they should crack down on the big fat bag of nothing that Wakefield bring to the game. You should be out on your ear, and it's a pity your not, Halifax would bring a great deal more to Super League that Wakefield could ever dream of.

It would be interesting to see where Wigan would be today had they not been allowed to cheat their way out of relegation in 2006.

Lol, weren't you the one who said it was quieter in Horbury now! ...they must have cracked down!!!!
P.S. I wasn't the one who started it! Some plonk from the Manorfields insisted I cranked my sub up for him or else.

I think we've been an embarrasment to the sport at times, like a lot of teams have but juxtaposing Halifax with us wouldn't see much differences. I'd like to see us both in tbh, Fax - Trin derbies used to be very passionate, for the love of god RFL get Fax and Feath out of the same division.

Great swathes of the Wigan 'fans' who are revelling in their recent success won't have a bleeding clue what you're talking about.

We'd have come straight back up. The RFL would have seen to that.

Quote ="bren2k"Great swathes of the Wigan 'fans' who are revelling in their recent success won't have a bleeding clue what you're talking about.'" 2006 - Average Attendance 14,465 (Despite being bottom of the league Rd 7 to Rd 19). 2011 - Average Attendance 16,129 www.slstats.org/t2/Wigan+Warriors/ Let's not let facts get in the way eh?

Quote ="bren2k"Great swathes of the Wigan 'fans' who are revelling in their recent success won't have a bleeding clue what you're talking about.'" 2006 - Average Attendance 14,465 (Despite being bottom of the league Rd 7 to Rd 19). 2011 - Average Attendance 16,129 www.slstats.org/t2/Wigan+Warriors/ Let's not let facts get in the way eh?

Tomkins will have the weight of Englands hopes on him in the Four Nations.

His flapping running style with arms and legs flung out at wide angles will see him with a broken Limb eventually, his unorthodox running style has been noted by the Southern Hemisphere teams, even Saint George on a quick end of season up shut him down.