are you saying he's not of this world

Are you Australian then?

If not, you're a complete idiot.

The Eastmond incident has also been referred to as being similar. Eastmond was suspended by Saints while it was investigated, hardly treated lightly by the club.

It will be interesting to see the stance that Wigan take.

He was clearly just letting everyone know that Charnley had scored the try with broken fingers.

i undertsand some people are a little upset, but coming out with crap like 'i cant wait for the aussies to smash him' does nothing except give more defensive ammunition to those who would blindly defend this completely unacceptable behaviour. Nor does the punishment(or lack thereof) given to someone else in a completely unrelated incident in a different game, involving different teams have any real bearing upon sam tomkins actions yesterday. precedent is a cop out, what he did yesterday is just unacceptable regardless of what lee smith last season or the guy who bullied you at age six got away with.
its just not on, it cannot be reasonably defended and the actions of others at other times are no justification for doing it or going unpunished.

Why did you have to bring that up again



Anyway, he ain't stole the crown jewels, stole anyones daughter or bummed a cat (not that know of anyway)!. Get his wrist slapped and move on until the next non story happens.

Wigan fans want consistency - how serious an injury should Tomkins receive?

If he was good looking, had some charisma and wasnt a complete dick he would be the perfect poster boy for RL. Even his petulance and childish behaviour like this would be excused.

But he has the unfortunate correlation of both looking like a scratty little kid who would have his tracksuit bottoms tucked into his socks and coming across like he has the personality of table with a persecution complex.

Sam Tomkins could have been RL's David Beckham, he is unfortunately closer to RL's Phil Neville.

Congratulations to the rugby gods on another job well done.

With a name like Grego you would probably do best to be careful when joking about injuries and such obtained during the course of Rugby League being deserved.

Some broken fore fingers would do for starters.

Unfortunately, however good he is at rugby, he has the brain of a piece of seaweed.
Doing it is bad enough, but denying it when it's so blatent is unbelievable.

agreed

Victory sign, what's wrong with that?

Since when did we start injuring players for swearing... unless you're trying to equate a player hurting himself during foul play with it or something, in which case had Tomkins broken his fingers trying to swear, that too would have had more than a hint of poetic justice.



If you don't refer to the McGuire incident I'm sorry but the comment was lost on me.

If you can't take it don't give it out. Trotting out the 'family game' stuff when the lad gets all kinds of abuse from the terraces is laughable, family game when it suits. A nothing incident that is being blown up out of all proportion.

Good point, I personaly think he could deal with the abuse in a clever way with some witty comment or by just playing harder & better. I would be unhappy with any action against him untill the hundreds of morons at all clubs who think it is normal to hurl vitriol & spite at players are got rid of as well. Maybe he could bring charges against the next person in the crowd who swears at him? now that would start somthing.

The Wigan fans lack the intelligence to realise why he's hated. He acts with no class at all and is an embarassment.

What does he gain from acting like that?

The truth with Tomkins is that he's not able to cope with the abuse he's getting. He cannot channel it well and it is affecting him. It might be a relatively minor incident but it's one that further downgrades how the public perceive him. He has guaranteed that he will be booed when he next plays for England next and he is backing himself into a corner with all these acts of utter petulance. And he's got no one to blame either, it's his own fault people will abuse him.

It doesn't seem to be affecting him that badly as he adds another medal to his collection. Why should he care what those on the terraces think about him and why should he not be able to give a bit back? It seems that those who are most upset by his behaviour are those that try and provoke him in the first place and I would suggest it is them who have the problem not Tomkins.

Because one side pays their money, the other is paid their money.

Tomkins would do well to remember he is a paid representative of the game, and his behaviour will be judged so. If Tomkins cant behave in a way befitting a professional player he will be punished for his transgressions (though in proportion to his offence, 1 game and £500 is probably about right in this case)

So because you pay your money you have the right to use foul and abusive language and/or gestures? However, if you are being paid then you have to accept foul and abusive language and/or gestures? Absolute rubbish always makes me laugh when those dishing it out get a bit back nad then go crying to the stewards/police/mummy/internet forum. If people are seriously offended by what Tomkins did and find it a disgrace then I suggest that they stop going to rugby games as it must be a very traumatic experience.

I agree, the punishment should fit the crime. It's just whether any punishment is forth coming.

Within reason, pretty much. No, you dont have to accept it. You just arent allowed to behave in a way which makes the game look bad. Its part of your contract. I dont find it a disgrace. Tomkins made himself look stupid. He looked like a petulant baby hiding behind someone else and sneaking a V up. Its something most people grow out of when they are about 8 years old. A 1match ban and £500 fine would probably be a fair punishment for his behaviour. Im not sure we should be involving the police or mummy (especially as its Sunday, she should have a roast on the go)

It is for how it has made our game look to the casual viewers on the BBC that he should have the book thrown at him. The RFL play heavily on the family game aspect for TV rights, sponsorship etc and he has damaged that.

I can think of plenty of things that make the game look far worse than a player sticking 2 fingers up at opposition supporters. Looked like he was just giving a little bit back so the 'petulant baby' stuff is an ott response to a bit of banter.