with respect if he can't see it for himself,what's the point of trying to explain,unless he's playing the devils advocate that is,just here for the wind-up etc

The fact that you haven't even mentioned the leagues below the Championship just shows how poor the attitude is to those leagues.

Not trying to be his Ventiloquists dummy , but surely the ' rest of the lower leagues ' covers that

Yes I think that is something that we all understood very early on , it was however supposed to bring wealth and health to the sport at all levels , like Internationally













A blinding success

It might have done, had the next sentence been "it's impossible to have the SL and nowt else ! the Championship etc couldn't survive without the SL & vice versa"

No I dont, I have literally just told you that!

Maybe this is why you keep misunderstanding the rfl when the are telling you about youth development teams etc.

Compared to pre 96 it has:

But maybe not for the smaller clubs who weren't run very well (which is clearly your agenda) but for everyone else it has

i believe the CC leagues would survive without SLE,after all the CC clubs get very little from that league if anything at all.

with the current financial problems that a unknown number of SLE clubs have got at the moment,how many do you think would go bust or would need to step down to the semi pro leagues if SKY pulled the plug ?.

and what do you think SL gets from the Championships that the championships dont get from SL?

nothing what so ever smokey and this is why i say SLE should go its own way and then everyone knows were they stand including the RFL.

All of them

not sure about tbh.
wigan leeds warrington st helens hull might be able to make a fist of it.
i'd like to say bradford but they'd only mess up again.

If Sky quit, SL would become semi-pro, rather than clubs step down. They could only step down if other clubs were ready to come up.

why should the clubs that are financially sound enough to remain professional become semi pro?

er.....Challenge Cup winners
1984/85, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1994/95,
League Winners
1986/87, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96

Ask anyone in the UK outside the M62 to name an English RL team and 90%+ will say one name........The period above was mostly pre-SKY so the only exposure the nation had to RL was the BBC.........and the BBC showed pretty much nothing but Wigan games.....Wigan winning the final (again)......that sort of 10 year dominance again would kill the sport.

SKY won't pull the plug........they want to control sports viewing across the globe and League gets more viewers in the UK than anything other than wendyball.........

Totally agree! Keeping failing clubs which offer little to the greater game in the stitched up closed Box that's SL is a joke. When Quins RL are regularly fielding the most "British" starting 17 Alarm Bells should be ringing for the so-called Heartlands clubs like Wakey Bradford & Salford. Least Crusaders a giving a good spattering of young Welsh players a chance. How many yound British Players get a game in some SL teams?

so are you saying wigan,hull,leeds st helens,warrington should remain pro or join the semi pro ranks?.

Do you foresee some kind of five team league? Will the Championship ride to the rescue on a white horse?

i dont foresee anything,they were just simple hypothetical questions.
you said SL would go semi pro,i asked,why should the bigger clubs go semi pro instead of remaining professional.thats all.

Seems a pointless route you're taking then.
I'll change my answer to SL being part full pro and part semipro. Does it really change anything?

I am saying that SKY won't stop paying. They have too much to lose and too much already invested......

quite right nothing changes.

fair enough.
lets hope for the sake of SLE SKY continue pumping money in.

the biggest 'porblem for SKY is the Catalans - they are contracted to cover two SL games from Perpignan each season which is a masive drain on their budget,that's why there are no games shown from TO13 in the Championship - the last thing SKY want/need is for the Dragons to reach the play-offs and play at home which seems ironic when the RFL is bending over backwards to encourage a Europa League style set-up.WE,the fans are lucky cos' RL is a minority sport buy SKY keeps pumping he money in - thank you SKY
SKY has been great for the Championship also with their thursday night coverage - ask ANY CC chairman to confirm that
As for SL going it alone - I personally can't see any point,what would change for the SL or CC ?

exactly.