He's not a native of Perth.

Of course you do. Because it suits. Blake Green hasnt had a regular gig in the NRL. He couldnt get one.
. You are a mid-table side. You are a mid table side because the teams who have put the time and effort, and introduced their youngsters have produced better players than the ones you have brought over from Australia. Now if we could get other teams to do the same, then we would have a better quality league, and as a by product, a better international team.
Webster is a very average centre, he is strong and fast but has the agility of house and the turning circle of an oil tanker.

Well you are much easier to please than I am. I would expect better for a 'outstanding' and 'very good' players who ease quality than 0 Finals and mid-table finishes.

Bollocks, If they were that good, they would have acheived something whilst they were here other than mid-table mediocrity

no they wont. What would improve the competition is for Hull KR to bring through the players Leeds, Saints, Wigan, Warrington, Castleford are, for them to be spending their numerous multi-millionaires money on young British players like Huddersfield have done. They arent they are papering over the cracks. Ben Fisher adds nothing to the league, Rhys Lovegroves are ten a penny, its a short term cover for a club which has and still is neglecting their responsibilities to the game as a whole.

we dont have to, we didnt f'ck it up and drop through the leagues, and go through a CVA. Hull KR arent unfortunate that their history has left them struggling, they are struggling because they were pants, they have no-one else to blame but themselves and shouldnt expect sympathy and dispensation to gain advantage on clubs who are putting the health of the game ahead of their selfish short-term interests.

The health of the game? Since when has that been any clubs responsibility? The game is just as healthy with these players playing here. I do not know one youngster that would choose not to play the sport because there are too many Aussies playing over here.

Yes we are a mid-table side, that is pretty good after only a few seasons back in the top flight. How long did it take Leeds to win something during the SL era? At least we are trying to be competative rather than be happy to just be in the league like Wakefield, Salford...etc

Sure it was Rovers fault for their downfall, that doesnt take anything away from what they have done since their revival. You can say we are not doing the game any good with having this many foreigners in the side but is it really doing the game any harm? If a player is any good they will keep the Aussie/Kiwi out the side. Liam Watts, Kris Welham and Scott Murrell have all kept away Aussies. Wigan have Josh Charnley so why not cry that they haven't released Pat Richards?

Leeds, Wigan, Saints...etc have all had the time and money to bring through their youngsters yet you expect Rovers to do it since 2007? What makes you think it is so easy to do? We have Scott Taylor coming through among other players who have a pretty high pedegree. Our juniors are competing against some well established academies in such a short space of time so I do not see that we are doing the game any harm at all.

it has always been their responsibility, as part of the RL familyno it isnt, to rely on overseas players has become to the detriment to young british players and as such is damaging the life blood of the game. It is building a house not only on sand, but sand someone else, who has no vested interest continually needs to supply. of course they dont, its simply that many dont get the chance to fulfil their potential.

as Crusaders proved last year, it isnt that difficult to put together a team of overseas players which can reach mid table. Christ they did it in a matter of days. 3 years. oh well, as long as you are better than Wakefield.

yes it is, it blocks the way for young british players, it stops them reaching their potential, it harms the structure of the game, it harms the international side, and it has the added disadvantage of incentivising other clubs to do the same.
so you think other clubs doing the same thing to a much lesser degree mitigates Hull KR massively going against the spirit of the rules. Wigan have fewer overseas players than last season, Hull KR have more. One club is going in the right direction.

no, i dont expect you to have academies of the same level as Leeds, Wigan, Saints etc. but i expect you to be contributing. I expect that if your club has chosen for so long to neglect youth development and scouting it doesnt having the playing strength to compete at the top, then it doesnt. It doesnt get to try to take a short-cut to the detriment of the game and the league. You need to find players from elsewhere like Huddersfield have done. Not simply rely on cast offs from the NRL. Crusaders last season simply highlighted what a poor 'achievement' it is to qualify for the play offs with a team filled with overseas players. It doesnt justify anything expect to the short-sighted, one club fans.

We do contribute and will be contributing more over the coming years. We did not choose to not contribute we just could not afford to due to the neglect of lower league clubs by the RFL. Although improving it still happens now yet SL club supporters fail to see life out side of the top flight.

Leeds still took until 2004 to win the SL title, this is 8 years after its inception. Back then you had 5 over seas players in the squad, why has this not reduced to 1 over 6 years??? Surely in that time the mighty Leeds Rhinos should have produced a wealth of English talent to replace these Australians and Kiwi's??? Rovers have broken no rules but you see that we are doing something detremental to the sport so why are Leeds not doing more???

what do you contribute? another game? You may argue you have decent home attendances, but other clubs earn nothing from your home attendances? what do you contribute apart from another game. What does any club contriibute apart from another game if they arent bringing players through.

Bollocks, it didnt stop you paying people like Mike Smith when you were in the 2nd tier. You could have put 5 players through scholarship/academy with his wages. You chose not to. Dont blame the RFL for the choices Hull KR made.

Do you know why? because in 2001/2002/2003 we didnt employ stack loads of overseas players. We gave game time to Danny Mcguire, Rob Burrow, Ryan Bailey, JJB, Matt Diskin, Danny Ward, Chev Walker, Mark Calderward who all became internationals, not to mention Richie Mathers, Gareth Carvell and Ewan Dowes. We didnt stop them getting experience because of overseas players, thats why we went on to win the league in 2004, and reach the cc final in 2005 and the gf in 2005 and win the comp in 2007/2008/2009. Because we built towards it. Because we sacrificed short term success for long term success and long term and as a by product contributed a huge amount of players to other clubs, (including scott murrell, Jamie I'anson, Tommy Gallagher, Gareth Morton, and Peter Fox to you) and the international side.they have broken the rules, they rules as they were no longer work. We now have more overseas players than the RFL wanted and the rules were put in place to secure. Because Hull KR took a short-termist, myopic and selfish stance in their desperation to bring in a spent 30 year old, messed up a crocked 32 year olds passport application, and couldnt lose any of their 10 overseas players from their mid-table squad.

regardless, Leeds are doing more, they have a massively better youth system, more youth products in the team, more youth products throughout the league, and fewer overseas players, but it is still not their job to 'do more' so that Hull KR can try and sneak an advantage over those who are 'doing more' by 'doing less'

Look, even Mild Rover has given up the "jam tomorrow" mantra. Face it, KR's squad in 5 years' time will be Kris Welham, 7 other token academy players "promoted" to make up the homegrown quota and binned off after 12 months, 5 Aussies, and 12 Tongans/Aussies with exemptions.

What nationality is the hunk pictured in your avatar Mrs B

Why when Leeds in 1998 had 5 overseas players playing in their grand final team against Wigan who also had 5 playing are they 13 years later still employing overseas players?? Surely 13yrs ago they should have hand picked about 50 10yr olds and brought them through to be Leeds superstars?

Leeds are doing nothing and have done nothing to reduce their overseas numbers for well over a decade, yet although Rovers have increased the numbers this year we have also increased our home grown numbers and have invested heavily into our structures. So the RFL want to bring all clubs in line with Leeds but do not want to effect anything the Rhinos do then?

You can speculate that Rovers will keep finding loopholes to get away with having more than anyone else but once players like Vella, Galea and Fisher leave we will be down to a figure more in line with everyone else.

Yes we paid Michael Smith a good salary but by that time we were rebuilding our youth structures, it was long before this that we suffered and were forgotten like all the other clubs out side of the Super League.

again i ask why did Wigan, who have one of, if not, the best jnr set ups in the country have to rely on 8 overseas players to win the GF last year?

because the rules allowed them to,end of.

Bulls now 5 - Glenn Hall released.

???????
He was born in Perth and played all his jnr RL in Perth for North BEach SeaEagles till being signed at 16 by St George. He's as native a sandgroper as you get!

I was under the impression that to really qualify as a Perth person, you had to be born in KwaZulu-Natal, Western Cape, Vrystaat etc?

Why? Why is it Leeds responsibility to employ an purely english side? no-one else has! Why do they have to cover for the failing clubs like Hull KR?

Besides no-one has argues we should have 0 overseas players. Some are fantastic players who add to our league, are at the peak of their careers and it is a good thing they come over, Ali Lauitiiti, Trent Barrett, Jamie Lyon, People have simply said it is is a failure for a club in the heartlands of our game, to need to be scratching around, finding loopholes to fill their squad with overseas players to cover for their lack of youth development and poor scouting in this country.

our overseas numbers are too high, we have too many. But that doesnt excuse having even more. Nearly all clubs need to bring down their overseas totals. Only one is finding loopholes because they have 9, want 10, and maybe 11. That is why they are criticised.




no you wont, even in a couple of years when these people leave, and even if you go against everything you have done so far, you will still have more or the same amount of overseas players when Galea Fisher and Vella leave than all clubs except 2 other heartland sides are now. Thats if you dont bring in an 11th as is rumoured. But yes, in a few years you maybe where everyone else is now.


You were forgotten by your own fans, dont blame anyone else. It was 8 thousand people who attend now who let you sink so far. Dont blame the RFL. It isnt their fault.

And maybe if you hadnt pauid Michael Smith such a good salary 5 years ago, your youth systems would have been rebuilt and you wouldnt need to rely on so many overseas players now.

either Suff Afruca, or Manchester or Hull!

the simply answer is they didnt. They had to rely on 5 overseas players to win last years GF

apparently one way to qualify as an Aussie opening batsman is to be born in Bloemfontaine - ie.Keppler Wessels (and then return to play for SA !)

huddersfield leading the way

Louis Anderson is 25 and has only played for New Zealand Warriors and Warrington. I think you're thinking of Vinnie who is at Salford.

Not according to Daniel Holdsworth he wasn't, unless of course you know more than him about where he was born.

According to Wiki he was born in Perth and I know for a fact he played all his jnr RL at North Beach until moving East at 16 into the Penrith jnrs before making first grade with St George.

Either way he is a product of the WARL and we will be happy to have him back in 2013 thanks.

He was born in Tweed Heads. Anyway, according to the knowledgable posters on this thread he's rubbish anyway so you won't want him.

He's got a couple of years to come good under the, no doubt, world class coaching of Salford!