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| Good luck to him, but to me he's an out and out league player and will struggle in union. By the same token, someone like Lee Bryne who is an outstanding RU fullback would be an average Sl fullback.
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| Quote ="django"...David Young...John Gallagher...Mark Brooke Cowden immediatly spring to mind
...and all for the same club!'"
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| I think he's referring to Leeds' majestic record in signing Union players. Others picked up the likes of Davies, Offiah, Devereux. We got Gallagher, Young, Brooke-Cowden, Simon Irving, Andrew Staniland etc. John Bentley was probably the best convert Leeds had.
As I say, whilst not particularly wishing ill fortune on the kid himself, I hope he ends up pottering around in reserve grade in Union. The more stuffed-up signings from league the better, as they'll be less likely to throw wads of cash at young league players in future.
I think people write off 'loyalty' - both to clubs and the game as a whole - far too easily. We are in direct competition with Union for a number of revenue sources, and produce very very few quality backs, so when any player turns to Union for money (or the 'challenge') I think its sad.
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| Quote ="Matt23"Good luck to him, but to me he's an out and out league player and will struggle in union. By the same token, someone like Lee Bryne who is an outstanding RU fullback would be an average Sl fullback.'" Agreed, I reckon he'll be back within 18 months with his tail between his legs. The games are now too different for all but an exceptionally talented player (Smith's good, but not that good) to make the transition.
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| I can't see any problem with this in any form.
It's just like any other business where anyone can change jobs, career direction, get head hunted , move for better prospects etc., etc..
Good luck to the lad.
The ONLY downside, if any, is recuperating the costs of "training" the lad , but hey at least we know that his original amateur club will have been well and truely screwed!
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I think he's referring to Leeds' majestic record in signing Union players.
Others picked up the likes of Davies, Offiah, Devereux. We got Gallagher, Young, Brooke-Cowden, Simon Irving, Andrew Staniland etc. John Bentley was probably the best convert Leeds had.'"
Better than Alan Tait?
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| Lewis Jones is Leeds best ever Union signing surely!!!
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| No one cares what you think.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"No one cares what you think.'"
Only those who reply flower
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| Basically Smith is sick of being hounded by people in Leeds, and he's fed up of not being able to go out with getting surrounded by total strangers. He was offered a deal by Wigan, but he sisn't want to play for another club against Leeds. Plus his bird lives in London at the minute, and he wants to be closer to her.
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| Quote ="The Nihilist"Basically Smith is sick of being hounded by people in Leeds, and he's fed up of not being able to go out with getting surrounded by total strangers. He was offered a deal by Wigan, but he sisn't want to play for another club against Leeds. Plus his bird lives in London at the minute, and he wants to be closer to her.'"
Had nothing to do with the money?
I'm sure Quins would have been more than happy to accomodate him if it's living in/near London he wants.
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| What amuses me is that some on here think he is a better than average RL player!!
He has an aopportunity!
Good luck to the lad
But to me he was/is a petulant player and there are far better at Leeds and elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"What amuses me is that some on here think he is a better than average RL player!!
He has an aopportunity!
Good luck to the lad
But to me he was/is a petulant player and there are far better at Leeds and elsewhere.'"
Sounds like your amused very easily.
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| Quote ="bobm"Lewis Jones is Leeds best ever Union signing surely!!!'" Agreed.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"No one cares what you think.'"
Actually despite being a goon, catalancs has some interesting insightful stuff to say, so people do care what he thinks. You on the other hand are a pathetic occer troll, who is under the delusion that he is funny, and no one cares what you think.
HTH.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Had nothing to do with the money?
I'm sure Quins would have been more than happy to accomodate him if it's living in/near London he wants.'"
As I said in my post above he didn't want to play for another club against Leeds. The money obviously was a big factor but not neccesaryily (can't spell) the deciding one.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"disappointing, but the key thing here is what McLennan says:
"His leaving will create an opportunity for someone else next year"
if he doesnt want to play in RL, let him go and give another young lad the opportunity to stake his claim.
no doubt the Wiganers will jump on this as a sign that the end of the world has arrived and its all the salary caps fault - but there will always be leakage between the codes, and there is nothing we can do to stop taht.'"
Why dont we make our youngsters, that come thought the clubs youth system, make them not count on salary cap.
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| We spent 100 years arguing for a free gangway, allowing players to move between the two codes of rugby. We finally won. Where's the problem?
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| Quote ="RED FLAG RISING"Why dont we make our youngsters, that come thought the clubs youth system, make them not count on salary cap. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif'"
Agreed. It would provide more incentive for clubs to produce their own players.
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"Agreed. It would provide more incentive for clubs to produce their own players.'"
if we make it a real rule we could bring better aussie over and could have more english players in our teams and stop our young players form switching codes.
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| Quote ="RED FLAG RISING"if we make it a real rule we could bring better aussie over and could have more english players in our teams and stop our young players form switching codes.'"
...so you want British players not to count so you can sign more Aussies.....mmmmm
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