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| Quote ="Starbug"As bad as the Willows is , it is still twice the stadium that Wheldon Road is , they didn't need a change in the rules to get back into SL '"
Been told to put better bulbs in the floodlights is hardly changing the rules now is it?
As for the Willows being better than Wheldon Road, come off it! Other than Belle Vue the Willows has to be the worst ground in the league.
Quote ="Starbug"And unless I'm mistaken , but there is actually a stadium being built at Barton , unlike the ' Mirage ' at Glasshoughton'"
And unless I'm mistaken you're not allowed to build stadia without planning permission....
But, facts don't exactly suit your clear anti-Cas bias now does it?
As for Halifax they'll miss out again in July because matched up with SL clubs they wont beat out anyone but Wakey, and Widnes will be replacing them.
Quote ="Starbug"Good job it doesn't work like that in the Championships then isn't it ,
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Yep, you can get relegated and complain about it and get reinstated when you're in the Championship
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Assuming that Wakey are the favourite to get the bullet, if they are relegated because of their stadium then they have to relegate Cas as well. If they are relegated because of having been in administration then they have to relegate Crusaders. Oh, but hang on, didn't they drop that rule the week before Crusaders entered administration?
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Why?
you do realise that the stadium is only one criteria. Assuming wakey and cas get exactly same score in relation to the stadium criteria that doesnt mean they are both automatically relegated. Its which of the two is categorised as stronger over the entire set of criteria. At a guess I'd say Cas are ahead over the entire criteria set.
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| Quote ="Starbug"... And unless I'm mistaken , but there is actually a stadium being built at Barton , unlike the ' Mirage ' at Glasshoughton'"
And unless I'm mistaken, planning permission is due to be completed next week with building slated to start shortly thereafter.
Quote ="Starbug"Nothing ' Vague ' about it , all the clubs were fully aware of the minimum standards required at the time , and then just like the Administration rules this time , they changed overnight without any publicity ...'"
This is not 'evidence'. A link to some official document or even a proper report in a reputable organ will suffice.
Quote ="Roofs"So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July ...'"
Halifax can, but Barrow cannot, because while the former passed the criteria, the latter did not.
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| Quote ="Mintball"And unless I'm mistaken, planning permission is due to be completed next week with building slated to start shortly thereafter.
This is not 'evidence'. A link to some official document or even a proper report in a reputable organ will suffice.
Halifax can, but Barrow cannot, because while the former passed the criteria, the latter did not.'"
There is still nothing there but a pile of dirt , planning permisiion is just a plan , nothing else , when it is actually built , as was promised it would be for 2008/9/10/11/12 , then come back on here and show us the pictures
There was no document or ' report ' , the RFL changed their own rules , that had been given out to all clubs , and didn't make a fuss about it , because they wanted it to be kept quiet , the lowering of minimum standards is not something you would scream from the rooftops is it ? you lot really like acting ' thick ' dont you
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| Quote ="Starbug"There was no document or ' report ' , the RFL changed their own rules , that had been given out to all clubs , and didn't make a fuss about it , because they wanted it to be kept quiet , the lowering of minimum standards is not something you would scream from the rooftops is it ? you lot really like acting ' thick ' dont you'"
So do you have any proof of this or are you, as we all suspect, making it up and making yourself look like a fool? As for acting thick, there's only you acting thick around here...
The ONLY thing the RFL asked Cas to do was change the bulbs in the floodlights, hardly sweeping changes is it? Lowered minimum standards? Come on then, what did they lower? the ground holds 12,000 and is in a better condition than the Shay, Belle Vue, the Willows...
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| Quote ="Starbug"There is still nothing there but a pile of dirt , planning permisiion is just a plan , nothing else , when it is actually built , as was promised it would be for 2008/9/10/11/12 , then come back on here and show us the pictures
There was no document or ' report ' , the RFL changed their own rules , that had been given out to all clubs , and didn't make a fuss about it , because they wanted it to be kept quiet , the lowering of minimum standards is not something you would scream from the rooftops is it ? you lot really like acting ' thick ' dont you'"
Evidence, please. You've been asked repeatedly. Either you have evidence or you do not. Which is it?
And claiming that, while nobody 'screamed it from the rooftops' you managed to hear it but others completely missed it doesn't count as evidence either.
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| Quote ="Gaslight":20riqfo6So do you have any proof of this or are you, as we all suspect, making it up and making yourself look like a fool? As for acting thick, there's only you acting thick around here...
The ONLY thing the RFL asked Cas to do was change the bulbs in the floodlights, hardly sweeping changes is it? Lowered minimum standards? Come on then, what did they lower? the ground holds 12,000 and is in a better condition than the Shay, Belle Vue, the Willows...'" to 1,500 , which is the exact number Wheldon road has , it was just a coincidence of course that it changed the year you got promoted back into SL
Look Minty started all this , the bottom line is , you're next in line for the drop , but you will survive , for another 3 years , or until you build Glasshoughton
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| Quote ="Starbug"They reduced the seating capacity required from 2,000 [ which Leigh spent thousands of pounds complying with to 1,500 , which is the exact number Wheldon road has , it was just a coincidence of course that it changed the year you got promoted back into SL
Look Minty started all this , the bottom line is , you're next in line for the drop , but you will survive , for another 3 years , or until you build Glasshoughton'"
You could have just said no.
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| Quote ="Starbug"They reduced the seating capacity required from 2,000 [ which Leigh spent thousands of pounds complying with to 1,500 , which is the exact number Wheldon road has , it was just a coincidence of course that it changed the year you got promoted back into SL
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Well considering there's 1700 (and odd) seats you're wrong, again.
And evidence? Oh you have none, you're being a conspiracy theorist.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Evidence?'"
He's been asked many times now to provide evidence and is yet to provide any o ubt he will now because he has none.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"
As for the Willows being better than Wheldon Road, come off it! Other than Belle Vue the Willows has to be the worst ground in the league.
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If you actually compare each stand at The Willows and Wheldon Road you will see The Willows is clearly better. And for the record I love Wheldon Road and hope Castleford stay in Super League.
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| Quote ="pyeman"He's been asked many times now to provide evidence and is yet to provide any o ubt he will now because he has none.'"
It does start to look that way, doesn't it?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Been told to put better bulbs in the floodlights is hardly changing the rules now is it?
As for the Willows being better than Wheldon Road, come off it! Other than Belle Vue=#BF4040 the Willows has to be the worst ground in the league.
And unless I'm mistaken you're not allowed to build stadia without planning permission....
But, facts don't exactly suit your clear anti-Cas bias now does it?
As for Halifax they'll miss out again in July because matched up with SL clubs they wont beat out anyone but Wakey, and Widnes will be replacing them.
Yep, you can get relegated and complain about it and get reinstated when you're in the Championship
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you biased git, wheldon jungle rd or what ever it is now is awful!. 3 little tin roofs over tiny terracing and a main stand more suited the 1950s makes it better than our ground?, the willows might be old but its looked after and has miles better facilities than your dump.
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| Quote ="pyeman"
Out of interest what did castleford do you to upset you so much? you've had a be in your bonnet about us for a few years.'"
At the risk of indulging is solipsism, I'm not sure whether there's anything about the club that upsets him, beyond the fact that it's supported by me.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"icon_lol.gif you biased git, wheldon jungle rd or what ever it is now is awful!. 3 little tin roofs over tiny terracing and a main stand more suited the 1950s makes it better than our ground?, the willows might be old but its looked after and has miles better facilities than your dump.'"
Such high class facilities as terracing that doesn't go up in even increments, a little dark alleyway under a tiny seated stand and the smallest side stand you'll see outside of Belle Vue where all your fans stand...yep high quality facilities there In no way can you really say the Willows is a better ground than Wheldon Road, the only stand I'd even say is better is the big stand you have behind the posts to the right of where the Salford fans stand.
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| Quote ="tb"At the risk of indulging is solipsism, I'm not sure whether there's anything about the club that upsets him, beyond the fact that it's supported by me.'"
Nothing including you ' upsets ' me about Castleford , I have thouroughly enjoyed my visits to Wheldon road , despite losing on every occaision , but it still doesn't change what happened , deny it all you want , as for Glasshoughton , believe me salford have suffered much worse than you about their stadium , you can check out their stadium thread if you like , the one with actual pictures of it being actually built
Not just ' plans '
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| Quote ="Starbug"Nothing including you ' upsets ' me about Castleford , I have thouroughly enjoyed my visits to Wheldon road , despite losing on every occaision , but it still doesn't change what happened , deny it all you want , as for Glasshoughton , believe me salford have suffered much worse than you about their stadium , you can check out their stadium thread if you like , the one with actual pictures of it being actually built
Not just ' plans '
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So come on then, for the last time PROOF, stop making yourself look like an idiot. How can we deny something that only happened in YOUR head? Just because you keep saying it - with no PROOF it doesn't mean it happened, does it? Show us some actual evidence, which doesn't exist for that matter, then we would maybe believe you, but alas, no such evidence exists and you just look like a plank making crap up to try make it come off as rules changed for Cas, you sad strange little man.
You clearly have some beef with Cas for whatever reason it is, I don't know but it's clearly on show here and it's making you look like an imbecile.
As for Salford's plans, how long did it take them to get to where they are? Exactly, and who's funded the stadium? Exactly.
Cas have taken half the time it did Salford and doing it all of their own backs, not getting the council, Peel holdings etc etc to pump money into the project.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Such high class facilities as terracing that doesn't go up in even increments, a little dark alleyway under a tiny seated stand and the smallest side stand you'll see outside of Belle Vue where all your fans stand...yep high quality facilities there
In no way can you really say the Willows is a better ground than Wheldon Road, the only stand I'd even say is better is the big stand you have behind the posts to the right of where the Salford fans stand.'"
Are you kidding? The away end is a great view at the Willows, the main stand stretches the full length of the pitch (unlike Cas) and the terracing in the Shed goes much further back than anywhere at Cas.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Such high class facilities as terracing that doesn't go up in even increments, a little dark alleyway under a tiny seated stand and the smallest side stand you'll see outside of Belle Vue where all your fans stand...yep high quality facilities there
In no way can you really say the Willows is a better ground than Wheldon Road, the only stand I'd even say is better is the big stand you have behind the posts to the right of where the Salford fans stand.'"
The Willows is a far better ground than what Wheldon Road is! Any one of our 3 stands puts any of yours to shame.
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| Well i'm glad my predicted bun fight didn't happen then.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Are you kidding? The away end is a great view at the Willows, the main stand stretches the full length of the pitch (unlike Cas) and the terracing in the Shed goes much further back than anywhere at Cas.'"
Having just checked, it has less seats and a lower capacity, so how does it have more terracing & seats etc?
Quote ="PIPO"The Willows is a far better ground than what Wheldon Road is! Any one of our 3 stands puts any of yours to shame.'"
The open ends at each ground, the one at Cas is better and the Princess street stand is a LOT better than the Shed
I'll give you the main stand because it runs the full length of the sideline (although it has less seats...) and the large stand behind the sticks is better than the Wheldon road end.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Having just checked, it has less seats and a lower capacity, so how does it have more terracing & seats etc?'"
Cas have more seats than Salford? Not a chance. Mind you, the trouble is at both clubs that they're all empty most weeks.
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| Wasn't Cas allowed to stay in Super League on the fact that they built a new stadium?
So if this is the case as they have yet to start then they are one of the fav's to go down.
Now for years its been all talk from Cas about the ground. It should have been up and running 5 years ago. Yet they are still messing about.
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| What the RFL said in 2008
Quote Castleford's Wheldon Road ground, The Jungle, was deemed to be "limited and old fashioned" though well maintained'"
Quote The club's ground, The Willows, was assessed to be "limited and old fashioned" despite having good corporate and disabled facilities'"
It seems to be pretty much a nothing argument to me.
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