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| Quote ="northmanchesterdevil"Oh, right. Well shall we just love it off then? Who do you think you are talking to when you constantly go on about the lack of fans at Salford? Do you think the folk that don't go read all about it on an internet forum? Is it our, the fan's, fault? Don't you think we are demoralised enough?
Yes, it's crap. Our attendances are abysmal. But ffs change the record.
We know.'"
I thought his post was pretty accurate as to whats going on at Salford at the moment
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| Quote ="j.c"I thought his post was pretty accurate as to whats going on at Salford at the moment'"
I'm not disagreeing with what he says.
I'm just ing sick of hearing it.
We know.
Let's just wind the club up shall we?
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| Quote ="northmanchesterdevil"I'm not disagreeing with what he says.
I'm just loving sick of hearing it.
We know.
Let's just wind the club up shall we?'"
Salford are the new london....get used to it
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| Quote ="northmanchesterdevil"I'm not disagreeing with what he says.
I'm just loving sick of hearing it.
We know.
Let's just wind the club up shall we?'"
Who's we?
Either you're a fan who has no control over the club and so can't affect change and so the post obviously wasn't aimed at you, or you're in a position to wind the club up in which case the post was aimed at you and you deserve to hear it over and over again until you do something about it.
Though if you are in that position I'd rather you started putting Koukash's millions to far, far better use rather than wind the club up. Starting with investing in a professional back office operation in all departments. Plus investing in the poor academy setup, in the poor marketing setup and the poor matchday experience.
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| Classic example of not investing at back of house before throwing money at players. It's a fine balance but you need a good CEO, marketing team, corporate liaison manager etc etc as well as a competitive team. Telling fans they are going to get a winning team is setting up for trouble. Telling fans they will get a great day/night out for the family regardless of result is far more deliverable and likely to get people along.
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| Quote ="galliant"People bang on about the ground location but Sale managed to attract over 7,000 today to the same stadium, so that's just a convenient excuse. Sale are also a mid-table team, so Salford not being a winning team doesn't wash either. 'Him' is spot on with his post.'"
Although the stadium move from the Willows has been a disaster your point about Sales crowds is valid and does suggest the Salford club has serious problems. We can argue that if we are successful the crowds will come however not every club can finish in the top four every year. Sale are clearly attracting casual fans who for whatever reason do not want to attend Salford games. Is this down to Salfords performances? Do they prefer union to league?
Salford is a club that has been rebuilt on sand in the last two years. Yes there has been a lot of investment on the field but to still have sub 2000 gates is a massive concern. For the club to be anywhere near self sufficient I think we need Marwan to continue his investment on and off the field for at least 3/4 years before there is any return on his investment.
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| Quote ="right said father ted"Do they prefer union to league? '"
As others have said, he needs to get the back office right. CEO and Marketing.............we all think League is the better game, but the vast majority of the british sports watching public don't either agree or don't know better. Educating them takes time and money and signing a few average names and promising a winning team isn't education, it's a rich mans folly
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| When Koukash 1st took over we we're inundated with Salford fans crowing and warning us all that a red empire waas going to take over the sport, they were going to sweep all before them in 2 years, dominate thr game for years, have all the world's top players playing in front of packed houses etc etc....i did say back then, even though i was told i and every other RL fan in this country is simply jealous and envious of Salford because we all knew what was gonna happen to wait and see what actually happens before shouting their mouths off !!....they weren't happy with Koukash stating they WOULD be top 4, they were adamant they were gonna be better than that - Well, it seems my words were very advisable at the time as 2/3 years on from koukash's entrance and they appear to have gone BACKWARDS as a club with little or no chance of threatening the top teams before he inevitably has enough and buggers off leaving them with nothing !!
Those fans have made it easy for people to say i told you so etc....the are not jealous of you, far from it, they're probably wetting themselves laughing thinking what came out of certain Salford fan's gobs/keyboard.
I don't mind Salford, had some good cracks at the Willows in years gone but nowadays there is such a chip on their shoulders they and their club are slowly becoming a bit of a dislikeable joke to fans i've spoke to about them.
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| Koukash offering tickets for a fiver for their next home game and u12s get in free in the east and south stand.
If that doesnt get salford fans in nothing will.
Listening to bbc manc radio on the way home from warrington it seemed salford fans will use any of the excuses not to go! Weather, not winning, stadium not in the right place, stadium shouldve stayed in salford (even though its only 9 miles away, not the other side of manchester), no promotion work even though the club sent in details of plenty of pr work to the show, yet sale fans still turn up in good numbers
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| Fiver for a ticket,that sound familiar.
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| Quote ="number 6"Koukash offering tickets for a fiver for their next home game and u12s get in free in the east and south stand.'"
v Warrington....On SKY.......Last year 6,260. Could be the straw that breaks the Camels back if he get's less than last year.
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| Offering cheap tickets is fine, though is question why that cheap, but the crucial part is who is being offered them, who knows about the offer, what else is done to encourage attendance, and what will be done to try and retain those who take advantage of the cheap tickets?
If none of that happens then the crowds won't increase much, if at all, and you've just lost a load of money.
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| Agreed, marketing is more than just free entry for kids and cheaper tickets!
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"Agreed, marketing is more than just free entry for kids and cheaper tickets!'"
Have a word with Hughes when you see him Pete
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| He's only offered locals in the immediate vicinity cheap coupons (and I think that initiative has come from Barnet FC rather than Hughes' team), for a self made millionaire he really is clueless, lmao.
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| I believe the Times' 'Rich List' was published recently. Anyone see if Dr K got in this year?
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"I believe the Times' 'Rich List' was published recently. Anyone see if Dr K got in this year?'"
He didn't make the list. But he's a billionaire you know. Honest.
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| Salford the new Broncos. Getting desperate
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| Quote ="Derwent"He didn't make the list. But he's a billionaire you know. Honest.'"
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| Malcolm Allison did similar for Manchester City during his tenure. For them it created a very loyal following through some very hard times. Get em in young!!! It's not the answer, but i applaud the efforts.
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| Think people need to be realistic , even when we had a semi decnet team the crowds weren't massive , definitely not the 8K which gets mentioned as a minimum. I'm a season ticket holder and so far this year we've played on a Thursday at 8 , Saturday at 3 , Sunday at 1 + 3 , Fridays at 8 . It makes the commitment to get one next year waver a bit as having a 9 year old who plays 3 sports my commitment is to get him to and from his games. That said , we've lost the last 4 including one against a team in the division below , the stadium and location is what it is and on Friday the traffic and weather was anightmare to get to the ground BUT I still got there. There is a level of apathy but being a Salford fan for as long as I can remember we've never challenged for much so to expect people to just decide to turn up is wishful thinking , it's a steady improvement with building on solid foundations that will do it , not quick fix signings , twitter rants etc. I'll still turn up as it's the team I support , it's the 50/50 or 40/60 people we need to get on board and good match day experiences will get those people but consisent match day experiences
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"When Koukash 1st took over we we're inundated with Salford fans crowing and warning us all that a red empire waas going to take over the sport, they were going to sweep all before them in 2 years, dominate thr game for years, have all the world's top players playing in front of packed houses etc etc....i did say back then, even though i was told i and every other RL fan in this country is simply jealous and envious of Salford because we all knew what was gonna happen to wait and see what actually happens before shouting their mouths off !!....they weren't happy with Koukash stating they WOULD be top 4, they were adamant they were gonna be better than that - Well, it seems my words were very advisable at the time as 2/3 years on from koukash's entrance and they appear to have gone BACKWARDS as a club with little or no chance of threatening the top teams before he inevitably has enough and buggers off leaving them with nothing !!
Those fans have made it easy for people to say i told you so etc....the are not jealous of you, far from it, they're probably wetting themselves laughing thinking what came out of certain Salford fan's gobs/keyboard.
I don't mind Salford, had some good cracks at the Willows in years gone but nowadays there is such a chip on their shoulders they and their club are slowly becoming a bit of a dislikeable joke to fans i've spoke to about them.'"
I think you'll find there were very few Salford fans that took that opinion but it's far easier for you to generalise as you've probably encountered 3 or 4 of those aforementioned gobes. While we're on the subject of gobes, any chance you can take the likes of jools and meast back to your board? Thanks in advance.
Jesus Christ there are some obsessed fans on here. Let's just leave RL to the handful of teams that can pull 6k every match and throw the world conquering Leigh RLFC into the mix.
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| go back to the Salford board at the time he took over, it was cringeworthy at times.....
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| Running rugby newsletter leading with story about poor Salford crowds
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"When Koukash 1st took over we we're inundated with Salford fans crowing...'"
Quote ="GIANT DAZ"go back to the Salford board at the time he took over, it was cringeworthy at times.....'"
This 'inundation' sounds quite avoidable.
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