Well I'm not trying to gain respect from you so don't care on that front. What exactly are we trying to smokescreen ? From what I can see nobody has said it was a great attendance and nobody has denied it wasn't a poor attendance.

If it makesyou feel better. It was a poor attendance like every play off game will be through to the grand final. Now the Hull fans who have posted on here have tried to offer explanations and give different views on why it was poorly attended. You on the other hand seem to be on some kind of mission to get people to agree with you on an obvious point.

However one game does not formulate how well Hull are supported. Wouldn't surprise me if we take 2000+ away next week, not many will take that many on the road in the play offs.

There not included.

Are you sure? I heard otherwise.

The sad thing about it is this Hull team is actually pretty good despite a large amount of the fans throwing a sulk.

The season hasn't lived up to expectations but it looks to me only short of a decent half back combination. Defensively they're excellent, the threequarters are among the best in the league.

Sad to say now but Rangi Chase would've been the ideal signing for Hull.

You heard wrong.

You heard wrong.

You're trying to smokescreen the fact that 6-8k regular fans didn't go to the game last nigh (because they were sulking) by pretending it was a financial decision.

BS.

Surprisingly poor crowd. Thought it actually was a decent game.

A trip to Hudds on a Thursday night might dampen travelling numbers, but a win is quite possible.

All those Hull fans paid full price, which was minimum £18. The Hudds crowd included 5,000 @£10 so in terms of revenue probably less than £5k between the two.

Just in case any Hudds fans have chipped in with criticism.

So lets get one thing straight. 1500 pre-payed seats are not counted on your attendance every home match? Sorry to burst your bubble, but they DO!! Remember when it all came about when your pictures were taken down over the picture gate scandal. A lot of things came out in the wash back then, even the fact that premier club tickets counted on your attendance whether there used or not.

They must employ somebody to walk through the turnstyles 1500 times a game then. Either all the 1500 turn up to every game or somebody walks through the turnstyle 1500 times. Either way I don't get why your that bothered by it, oh yeah Rovers fan.

There are a large number of reasons why this game (as well as recent play off games) have been poorly attended. Some to do with the club, some to do with the game.

But this has to be the biggest one:

The Top-8 format hasn't worked. Week one just doesn't mean enough. The games between 5-8 are usually average games. The games between 1-4 mean little. Top 5 was perfect. Top 6 stretched it a little. Top 8 has ruined it. Fans just aren't buying the importance of the early play off games and it's shown at most play-off games since 2009 (not just last night).
7,232 watched Wigan v Catalans in the first round of last year's play-offs (Wigan were top of the league with 14.5k home average).
Season before, 6,790 watched the same game in the second round (Wigan were CC winners with an average just below 15k).
7,323 watched Wire v Hull in the second round last year (Wire were CC winners with an average home gate of 10.5k, Hull took about 1.5k fans).

Were they all moaning about Wembley losses or poor league seasons?

Other than Catalans vs Leeds, every play off gate last season was below average. Many significantly.
The Top 8 play-offs have been poor. They have given fuel for rivals for the game or the individual clubs to add to the fire.

The problem with last night's gate wasn't the Hull fans. Just like last season's wasn't the Wigan fans or Wire fans. It's because the meaning of the play off games has been significantly diluted and the fans aren't buying it anymore.

That's far more significant than a few p*ssed off Hull fans and poor weather. Had Hull been going well and the weather been fair, there'd maybe have been a couple of hundred more at best.

They must employ somebody to walk through the turnstyles 1500 times a game then. Either all the 1500 turn up to every game or somebody walks through the turnstyle 1500 times. Either way I don't get why your that bothered by it, oh yeah Rovers fan.

I watched the news last night I missed the story in which 10, 000 people were made redundant last week in the Hull area, checked the BBC website too and nothing. I checked the weather for the force 9 gales coming in off the sea...nothing.

The truth is the club that boasts constantly about taking the most fans to away games and bleats constantly about having the greatest fans in the world had the illusion broke for all to see and now their egos can't take it.

The fact is, you're fans are not as great as you think they are, man up and just accept it rather than giving a million and one BS stories.

You do realise that people who are in work are sometimes unable to afford things, right?

Who all conveniently became skint last night, the fact of the matter is they couldn't be bothered and all people are trying to do is get you to admit that.

A lot couldnt be botherd juding by the attendance.Was dissapointing to see the stands empty.Just amuses me that the minute we have a low crowd,we get jumped on.There are a few facts why people didnt go and support so low...Catalan brought 5 fans,people have got fed up with our form and especially after the Sts performance,Was a bloody horrible night and on sky,warmer and drier in house,Season passes on sale this mth...i only went due to daughter buying me a ticket or else i wouldnt have gone...My excuse...was in hospital for 3 days last week and on sick leave this week and i dont get paid..i had other prioroties.

Last night was a poor effort by Hull fans. For the first time this season.
As a Hull fan I'll admit that. For whatever reason, and there is probably a lot, people chose not to go.
But seriously, why do people give a damn? We're consistently well supported (arguably 'one of' the leagues best) throughout the season, and after one game the fans are getting slated.
We won the match. The fans who attended are happy. The fans who didn't attend are happy. That should be our only thought. If other clubs fans want to try and find a way to put the club/fans down then that's their choice.

This only happens [people jumping on you for attendance because your fans more than any other always brag the most about how well travelled you are and how you the the most and greatest fans.

Sure they didn't just 'conveniently become skint' last night. Many of those missing, however, will have been season pass holders. Once the pass is paid for, there's only car parking and maybe a drink to pay for during the regular season. Conversely, it would have cost a family with a couple of kids around £60 to attend last night's game. After the expense of the recent Wembley trip and with season passes already on sale for next year, it would have been beyond many people. And, as I alluded to earlier, people do have things other than rugby to consider.



I've already said that [usome[/u will have been put off by our poor performances in recent weeks, especially the Saints one. I know of at least two people who are 'non-regular' supporters who went to the Saints game and didn't go last night because of that. Not everyone is a die-hard fan who will go come what may, but equally, not everyone who didn't go 'couldn't be bothered'.

Got us mixed up with the inbreds from other side of city

Never brag about our support as it can come back and bite us on the ar$e but 98 consecutive home games of 10.000+ is hard to ignore...as for play-off matches...cant remember the last one that was well watched.Even when we played you last season in play offs..was only 8,600 there.

Anything else you want to make up whilst your at it?

Unless you have solid proof of 10000 people saying that, then its more crap spouted by you.

"The night of the fight, you may feel a slight sting. That's pride fkig with you. Fck pride. Pride only hurts. It never helps. You fight through that sh*t"

I'm a season pass at Hull fc and I did n't go last night (wish I had now)
reason for not going
we have been very poor recently, Catalans never get me excited, bad weather and it was on sky so I saved money

will I go to Huddersfield or wherever next week? No because it's on sky and I can save even more money

money saved will go towards my 2014 season pass as like most people money Is tight

the bottom line though is that Hull FC still have great support home and away
and yes we are still sulking over our dismal display at Wembley

This will be my 3rd time of saying on different threads but you are wrong. I worked at the Boulevard on turnstiles and cashier for 16 years, for my sins also working at Rovers and Leeds. They are not allowed to count pre-paid seats, only those coming through the turnstiles for various reasons one of which is health & safety, they need to know EXACTLY how many people are in the ground. On cup matches when it is a cup match and usually a shared gate, you are shadowed by someone from the opposition on everything you do. Like I said on your board to General Troll aka Zod, it would be pretty silly to announce a higher attendance with a shared gate, if they wanted to "fiddle" and make more money and not pay as much to the opposition they would announce a lot lower gate. But why listen to someone who actually cashied at these matches for 16 years