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| one thing that really needs to happen is that once decisions are made, a league table of bids strongest to weakest needs to be drawn up with tangible reasons why each bid is ranked where it is.
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| Quote ="WireWonder"How many Challenge Cups have Huddersfield won recently,soft lad?'"
How many did Warrington win between 1974 and 2009?
If you look at the records Huddersfield have won more honours that Warrington, who biggest claim to fame was making the chap who polished their trophies redundant after 35 years service.
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| Quote ="WireWonder"How many Challenge Cups have Huddersfield won recently,soft lad?'"
How many times have Warrington beat Huddersfield this season, soft lad?
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| Quote ="jet black"...so you voted for HKR then?'"
Are we not showing constant improvement in this area. Yesterday we gave two academy lads their debut's. with one of them putting in a MotM performance. Our U18's are also unbeaten in 3 games having beating Saints and trouncing Wigan.
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| Quote ="Starbug"
It should be Crusaders, and then either Cas or Salford'"
Didnt you say earlier it should be based on the league table?
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"Wakefield: Gone bankrupt countless times, poor on-field, low crowds
Crusaders: Wales rugby league on the up after qualifying for the four nations and co-hosts for 2013 world cup
or you could just as easily put....
crusaders... recently in financial trouble, poor on field( unless its good friday lol) low crowds
wakefield..english rl on the up after getting into 4 nations and co hosting world cup in 2013....'"
Yes but there are 12 super league clubs in England and 1 in Wales. It would be crazy to take that 1 club away when rugby league in that country is on the rise, just as it would be crazy to kick Catalans out.
Its interesting to note 0 people voting for Catalans. I predict in 3 years time when Crusaders are more established, as Catalan are now, there will be 0 people voting for Crusaders also.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I find the pole results very interesting in that Wakefield are, yet again. the majority choice to lose their licence. I find it interesting because the RFL seem to have been apparently successful in what I consider to the their master deception... a traditional club to go over Crusaders for 'expansion reasons' and not what I think are their real reasons.
I also think that RL fans tend to have short memories. I have some rhetorical questions, as a person that does believe in the expansion of the game in the longer term?
If the idea of a Super League Club in Wrexham is such a great long term idea, why did the RFL not set one up their in the first place and start in the populous area of Wales and the centre of Welsh Rugby Union? Why did they choose to start up another Championship Club in South Wales if North Wales is such a great location for a team, so why not Welshpool or Llandudno, or maybe just back over the border in England in maybe Chester of Stoke-on-Trent? The thing is the Crusaders were moved to Wrexham because the RFL had no choice, simple as!
If the RFL had not lent and were still not currently owed circa £700k by Moss and Roberts and also were able not to lose 'face', with hindsight, for admitting them too early into SL, by kicking them out would they do just that?
If the SoS had not called in the Newmarket Development for a public inquiry and Wakefield, like Salford, were currently busy constructing a new stadium, and also with the added bonus of AG taking over from Ted, would the above poll now show Castleford in last place? Most probably and that is also a huge shame, when it should read Crusaders?
I have more if anyone is interested?'"
While we are in the habit of asking searching questions... why are you “a person that does believe in the expansion of the game in the longer term”
I don’t mean the way the RFL are implementing their strategy which can be covered elsewhere, it would seem you are fundamentally opposed to the expansion of Rugby League at all. I am genuinely interested in why you believe this, I am not on a wind up?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"
If the idea of a Super League Club in Wrexham is such a great long term idea, why did the RFL not set one up their in the first place and start in the populous area of Wales and the centre of Welsh Rugby Union? Why did they choose to start up another Championship Club in South Wales if North Wales is such a great location for a team, so why not Welshpool or Llandudno, or maybe just back over the border in England in maybe Chester of Stoke-on-Trent? The thing is the Crusaders were moved to Wrexham because the RFL had no choice, simple as!
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The RFL did not set up the Celtic Crusaders.
The RFL did not change their name to Crusaders and move them grounds.
The RFL did not set up the South Wales Scorpions.
These clubs have owners who are not the RFL.
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| Quote ="Toulouse for super L"The RFL did not set up the Celtic Crusaders.
The RFL did not change their name to Crusaders and move them grounds.
The RFL did not set up the South Wales Scorpions.
These clubs have owners who are not the RFL.'"
Great news. Can i set a club up in Super League called Halifax RLFC without letting the RFL know?
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| I'm not biased just get rid of HULL
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| Quote ="Toulouse for super L"Yes but there are 12 super league clubs in England and 1 in Wales. [uIt would be crazy to take that 1 club away[/u when rugby league in that country is on the rise, just as it would be crazy to kick Catalans out.
Its interesting to note 0 people voting for Catalans. I predict in 3 years time when Crusaders are more established, as Catalan are now, there will be 0 people voting for Crusaders also.'"
I agree it would, if they are within the strongest 14 applications, you can't keep them in under the "crazy rule"
I predict Crusaders won't be around in 3 years, sorry.
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| Quote ="kiwiballs"I agree it would, if they are within the strongest 14 applications, you can't keep them in under the "crazy rule"
I predict Crusaders won't be around in 3 years, sorry.'"
apparently it's the RFL decides their fate,not the deficencies of the club itself it seems....
it's scandalous IMO
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| Quote ="Toulouse for super L"Didnt you say earlier it should be based on the league table?'"
That was using ' logic ' , now I'm using multiple faceted RFL system , also known as the bollox system
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| Quote ="Starbug"That was using ' logic ' , now I'm using multiple faceted RFL system , also known as the bollox system'"
That system is notoriously difficult to maintain and operate. The RFL have the skill, maneoverability and the steadfastness to carry this system out.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"While we are in the habit of asking searching questions... why are you “a person that does believe in the expansion of the game in the longer term”
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| Quote ="Rommel"I'm not biased just get rid of HULL
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Can`t do that,you would have eff all to go on about.
If my guardian angel is listening,let Radford score a try on Monday.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Can`t do that,you would have eff all to go on about.
If my guardian angel is listening,let Radford score a try on Monday.
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should be a cracking game with two in-form teams - wish I could get over to see it !
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"...... But Wakefield imho have had more than enough opportunity to develop BV or get out. Imho the cocked a deaf un to the RFL for far too long and only when the RFL grew some and decided that they would get serious about their ground did Wakey start to act.....'"
And how is this any diffrent to Cas, who are no nearer a new ground than Wakey?
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| I think its great that the poll results show the majority of RLfans want expansion to take place. 100% of people want Catalans in super league, 93% of people want Harlequins in super league, and 80% of people want Crusaders in super league. Its looking daunting for Wakefield however with 55% of people thinking its either Wakey go down or expand the league
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| Quote ="Toulouse for super L"I think its great that the poll results show the majority of RLfans want expansion to take place. 100% of people want Catalans in super league, 93% of people want Harlequins in super league, and 80% of people want Crusaders in super league. Its looking daunting for Wakefield however with 55% of people thinking its either Wakey go down or expand the league'"
Yeah because everybody voted honestly and 247 voters is a fair representation of the RL community. I'm a Wakey fan and I voted for Wakey because I find the poll ridiculous so you best factor that into your analysis for a start!
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"And how is this any diffrent to Cas, who are no nearer a new ground than Wakey?'"
Its not but we are all blinkered at times and its easy to follow suit rather that think for yourself.
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| Quote ="J.T"Yeah because everybody voted honestly and 247 voters is a fair representation of the RL community. I'm a Wakey fan and I voted for Wakey because I find the poll ridiculous so you best factor that into your analysis for a start!'"
Yep me too
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| Quote ="Toulouse for super L"I think its great that the poll results show the majority of RLfans want expansion to take place. 100% of people want Catalans in super league, 93% of people want Harlequins in super league, and 80% of people want Crusaders in super league. Its looking daunting for Wakefield however with 55% of people thinking its either Wakey go down or expand the league'"
You are obviously a politician , if that is your conclusion , you asked people what they think will happen , not what they think should happen , I didn't vote , quite simply because it is obscene that you have turned what should be a sporting competition into a ' Britains got talent ' freak show , as I did post earlier , Toulouse aren't fit for the Championship , let alone SL
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| Quote ="Starbug"You are obviously a politician , if that is your conclusion , you asked people what they think will happen , not what they think should happen , I didn't vote , quite simply because it is obscene that you have turned what should be a sporting competition into a ' Britains got talent ' freak show , as I did post earlier , Toulouse aren't fit for the Championship , let alone SL'"
Read again. The poll is who should go from super league. Doesnt mention what will happen. So this is people thinking Wakey should go. I dont want Wakey to go, but i think they will.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Crusaders, Quinns and Wakefield. All add nothing to SL.'"
And Halifax do ?
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