I doubt Halliwell and Wardle where asking for 'over the odds'. All major clubs have to release players to upgrade youngsters contracts. I look at your signings and a number of them are none other than 'pointless'. Ian Sibbits money could of gone towards keeping either one of them talents or maybe them both. Time will tell but i said the same about Bradford last year.

Dont get so defensive by calling me a troll. I have my opinion and i think it's shared with many other fans.

Maybe you're not trolling, but I trust Mick Potter's opinion over yours.

He believes the signings he has made are of sufficient quality to get us into the 8, and i'll trust him on that. I've said it alot, but the biggest change for Bradford is the coach. McNamara is nowhere near the coach Mick Potter is.

does getting into the eight next year mean more than building a young, hungry team for 3 years time



It seems quite short termist to me.

My "concern" (if i actually cared about Bradford) is that your signing are very Millward-era Wigan style. For Ian Sibbit and Ainscough read Jordan James, Oliver Wilkes, Shane Millard, etc. A lot of "shrewd signings" who actually dont make the grade, especially for a club with ambitions of getting back to the heady heights of pre-2006.

Yes, but other posters actually back up their opinions with valid arguments. You don't. You keep bringing up Sibbit though. Sibbit is likely a squad player. Brought in to provide extra cover so we don't have to rely too heavily on the young lads coming through the ranks.

Wardle is supposed to have been offered over double Bradford's valuation by Huddersfield. You don't seem to grasp the concept that all clubs have a finite amount to spend on their squad. There's a pay structure for all levels of player which has to be finely balanced. This is the point of the salary cap though isn't it? To spread talent round?

Saints and Wigan relied on youngsters last season and both made the Grand Final. You've brought in poor squad players to replace youngsters that may be potential superstars.

What confuses me so much is that the majority of Bulls fans are happy with the recruitment.

[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/10/11/02/RUGBYL_Catalans.htmlGuisset to cut his coaching teeth at Catalans.[/url

But what you've put there about Bradford is not true. The Wigan and Saints comparisons are false as I believe someone has pointed out on the "hows your squad look" thread just how many overseas players Wigan actually have. The youngsters that are playing for both of those sides are in the main NOT in their first season in SL.

Wardle played only a handful of games last year before getting injured. Helliwell has not even MADE his SL debut. And as good as these lads look in the academy, there's nothing to guarantee either of them will be anything more than "poor squad players"

Mike Ratu has been released by Hull KR

link?

Catalans Outs:- Jerome Guisset [retiring link: www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=20476 Hull KR Outs linke: www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... hp?id=3060

Catalans Outs:- Jerome Guisset [retiring link: www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=20476 Hull KR Outs linke: www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... hp?id=3060

Quote ="madtigerman" Hull KR Outs:- Scott Spaven [Doncaster linke: www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... hp?id=3060'" Good move by Hull Kingston Australains....bin their English born academy skipper.....expect to hear about the recruitment of another world beating Australian in his place soon........development of local talent my $rse The lad got 2 games in the first team in 2010.......he skippered the academy.....what happened in the last couple of months? Did he refuse to sup VB with his team mates at the christmas party..?

Quote ="madtigerman" Hull KR Outs:- Scott Spaven [Doncaster linke: www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... hp?id=3060'" Good move by Hull Kingston Australains....bin their English born academy skipper.....expect to hear about the recruitment of another world beating Australian in his place soon........development of local talent my $rse The lad got 2 games in the first team in 2010.......he skippered the academy.....what happened in the last couple of months? Did he refuse to sup VB with his team mates at the christmas party..?

You know, this fixation of yours is unhealthy.

Catalans Out: Chris Walker has signed for Parramatta.

Gees he walked out of France after 1 year, imagine if he'd come to England!!

Roberts, Carmont, Richards, Hoffman, Tommy, Lima + Finch - 7?

Compare that to our academy produced youngsters who play in the side on a fairly regular basis -

Hansen, McIllorum, Prescott, O'Carroll, Farrell, O'Loughlin, Joel Tomkins, Sam Tomkins, Tuson, Goulding, Marsh, Charnley, and that number is only going to go up.

Quote ="Alex Mc"Mike Ratu has been released by Hull KR'" Quote ="madtigerman"link?'" www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html

Quote ="Alex Mc"Mike Ratu has been released by Hull KR'" Quote ="madtigerman"link?'" www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html

Leeds Rhinos Outs news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 156039.stm

Leeds Rhinos Outs news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 156039.stm

Released Players
Mitchell Sargent
Jason Demetriou
Mark Riddell
Martin Aspinwall
Brent Sherwin
Julien Touxagas
Ben Jones
Paul Cooke
Luke May
Mark Calderwood
Matt Orford
Cameron Phelps
Mike Ratu

does anybody no if they have signed for a new club yet.

Spaven position in the squad will be filled probably by 18 year old english man Kristian Bell,although he signed 12 months ago from St Helens so that won't please you either.

I'd take Phelps.

Same could be said of certain HKA fans regarding attendane figures at Quins games....together with their unproven assumptions of back handed payments by the RFL, Unproven assumptions I'll add together with preferential treatment over the years...again, unproven.
What is a fact is that you will have 10 overseas players in your squad next year and your stadium is still only just better than Hell View and not as good as the Jungle......with your chairman doing the same as Quins by proppping you up financially.......none of which is on the RFL 's wish list.....


....no issue with the young lad from St Helens, although the idea is to develop your own. Scott Murrell is a good example of a player who got a second chance at HKA and took it. He was never going to make it at Leeds but has done a job for you guys (as he did on loan in London a few years back).......but it still beggars the question that if Spaven was good enough in 2010....what's happened for him to be deemed not good enough a few months later?

Presumably we won't be given any credit for his development.

Yet another thread gets de-railed HKR style.

Clearly, playing only 2 games suggests he erm...wasn't.

Actually, I think you will find, It's HKA